Pressure, access to anything you want, feel above the law, long hours, bad influences. I am sure there are a lot more factors.
True but ultimately it is up to the individual. People should look at her and see how fragile human life is and if they like her music respect her music but out of respect to her don't go down her life path.
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She had actually just come out of rehab and was looking healthy, and was pushed straight into a tour, she wasn't ready for it and it showed when on the first date she appeared hammered, and then cancelled the rest of the tour.
that was just over a month ago.
Well it's sad but I'd suspect that most people around her considered her their cash cow and didn't really care about what's best for her.
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True but ultimately it is up to the individual. People should look at her and see how fragile human life is and if they like her music respect her music but out of respect to her don't go down her life path.
Well it's sad but I'd suspect that most people around her considered her their cash cow and didn't really care about what's best for her.
Most people need a lot of support to break they addictions. If you don't have that most of the time this is how you're going to end up.
Most people need a lot of support to break they addictions. If you don't have that most of the time this is how you're going to end up.
I don't doubt that at all, step 1 don't start to get on the road to addiction because that is the easiest step. Beyond that it's a lot tougher. Like I said above she's a cash cow for some so they need to strike while the iron's hot. Well guess what? That cash cow is now gone and they played their part in it.
Some of the responses in here are just tasteless, i'll leave it at that.
She brought it onto herself by starting to do drugs in the first place but she did have a sickness and it just seemed like it was a point of no return for her, some people inherit an addictive personality so it's harder for those people to quit their habits as opposed to others who have more natural will power.
I had a gambling addiction when i was younger which got to the point of me being in very deep with some bookies who shall i say weren't so kind as far as the payment plan was concerned, i'm lucky that somebody bailed me out or else i might not even be here today so addictions can come from all walks of life. I'm just lucky that my reaching bottom didn't lead to my ultimate demise.
I don't doubt that at all, step 1 don't start to get on the road to addiction because that is the easiest step. Beyond that it's a lot tougher. Like I said above she's a cash cow for some so they need to strike while the iron's hot. Well guess what? That cash cow is now gone and they played their part in it.
Easy to say but its very easy to get caught up. There's always the "Well you should have...." but stuff like this is just sad and it happens all the time. If it was easy as just not getting hooked in the first place that wouldn't be the case.
Because a much higher proportion of these people are crackheads than in any other walk of life.
I'd suggest people raised in a poor, predominately black community in many large American cities have a population with higher crack use than that of celebrities.
Many others lost their lives to drug addiction today as well I'm sure, many of which no one cared about, had no news articles about them and died with no money or means to living. I can care that a young woman lost her life but I really don't find news about "celebrities" to be all that important in the world.
Many others lost their lives to drug addiction today as well I'm sure, many of which no one cared about, had no news articles about them and died with no money or means to living. I can care that a young woman lost her life but I really don't find news about "celebrities" to be all that important in the world.
Not justifying all the media coverage her death will get, but let's be honest, of all the other drug addicts that will die today, did any of them sell millions of records? Win music awards? She was a public figure, so she's going to get attention. To many, she was known for her drug use more than her music, but that's a byproduct of the media, not hers.
How many little children will die of starvation in Africa today? Far more than died yesterday in Norway, but the African kids won't get their own thread on the board here. As a society, we're far from having our priorities straight.
Many others lost their lives to drug addiction today as well I'm sure, many of which no one cared about, had no news articles about them and died with no money or means to living. I can care that a young woman lost her life but I really don't find news about "celebrities" to be all that important in the world.
Mind you those nameless souls won't have millions of brave internet posters saying they deserved their fate. Nor will tabloids profit from their deaths.
She was a very sweet girl a few years ago. She lived around the corner from me in camden town and I saw her a lot about 6 years ago. A guy I know who used to play in her practice band said that her drug problems got ten times worse when she hooked up with a known dealer and she dropped most of her inner circle
Nobody becomes addicted by sitting on a public toilet seat or getting sneezed on. The only way you become a drug addict is to consciously make the decison to do drugs the first time. We all know the risks, the ones that don't care and try crack anyway are the ones who get hooked. It is hard to have sympathy for someone who brings it on themself and drug addicts have done exactly that.
It is not a disease you catch, it is a condition you cause yourself by trying drugs. Nobody can become a drug addict if they don't try the crap.
You've never made a bad choice, then? I'm very glad to hear it.
Or are certain bad choices that you make morally superior to others? I'm curious.
You've never made a bad choice, then? I'm very glad to hear it.
Or are certain bad choices that you make morally superior to others? I'm curious.
I'll echo that sentiment. Does the guy who loved the double cheeseburgers deserve the complications of diabetes later in his life? The guy who worked until midnight at his desk every night deserve his heart attack? The guy who struggled for years with his tobacco addiction deserve his lung cancer?
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They all contributed to their lot in life by bad choices, but to start judging others for their misfortune seems a bit wrong to me.
You've never made a bad choice, then? I'm very glad to hear it.
Or are certain bad choices that you make morally superior to others? I'm curious.
A little difference between making a bad choice, and making a disastrous choice repeatedly, speed dialing the repeated mistake any chance you get, countering the best help available on the planet and avoiding therapy, handlers, and finding any way possible to self sabotage, while singing about the glory of it all in her song catalog.
In this case its beyond the pale.
Again RIP but this was one of the worst possible role models for young or vulnerable people anywhere.
The mistake arguablly is allowing this message to get to so many.
A little difference between making a bad choice, and making a disastrous choice repeatedly, speed dialing the repeated mistake any chance you get, countering the best help available on the planet and avoiding therapy, handlers, and finding any way possible to self sabotage, while singing about the glory of it all in her song catalog.
In this case its beyond the pale.
Again RIP but this was one of the worst possible role models for young or vulnerable people anywhere.
The mistake arguablly is allowing this message to get to so many.
Some of the responses in here are just tasteless, i'll leave it at that.
She brought it onto herself by starting to do drugs in the first place but she did have a sickness and it just seemed like it was a point of no return for her, some people inherit an addictive personality so it's harder for those people to quit their habits as opposed to others who have more natural will power.
I had a gambling addiction when i was younger which got to the point of me being in very deep with some bookies who shall i say weren't so kind as far as the payment plan was concerned, i'm lucky that somebody bailed me out or else i might not even be here today so addictions can come from all walks of life. I'm just lucky that my reaching bottom didn't lead to my ultimate demise.
Glad to hear that things got resolved and you were able to make something of your life after having that kind of an addiction.
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Easy to say but its very easy to get caught up. There's always the "Well you should have...." but stuff like this is just sad and it happens all the time. If it was easy as just not getting hooked in the first place that wouldn't be the case.
Well I'm sorry but I'll have to disagree, I have strong will power and I never ONCE tried an illegal drug. This despite having friends and family that have done drugs and many of them probably still do. I made that choice and I stuck to it. Did I catch some **** for it? Sure. When some of people's first thoughts when hearing Maui is Maui wowee there's a reason for that there are a ton of potheads here and worse ice heads. It is up to every individual, I always said that if I don't start smoking or doing drugs then I won't have to worry about being addicted to them. So far I can't say that I was wrong. That was my choice and I stuck to it, I'm not saying that I'm better than any of these people, however if they adopted the same approach chances are that they wouldn't destroy their lives with drugs. People that haven't started need to look at people like Amy and distance themselves from drugs instead of being ignorant and saying "that will never happen to me". Those that are battling addiction, please get help and don't let your life get cut short or your quality of life decline because of it. It's never too late to turn your life around.
A little difference between making a bad choice, and making a disastrous choice repeatedly, speed dialing the repeated mistake any chance you get, countering the best help available on the planet and avoiding therapy, handlers, and finding any way possible to self sabotage, while singing about the glory of it all in her song catalog.
In this case its beyond the pale.
Again RIP but this was one of the worst possible role models for young or vulnerable people anywhere.
The mistake arguablly is allowing this message to get to so many.
Dude, she had a sickness and an addictive personality, it's not so easy to just quit cold turkey. It's difficult for somebody without an addictive personality to understand what a person with an addictive personality is going through, she had a sickness and never survived her rock bottom.
