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07-27-2011, 11:37 PM
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Did you mean 10 year deal? Cuz that's about the only way it'd be worth it lol.
Sorry, my post was worded poorly. This was basically what I was aiming for. Weber resigns with NSH to a 1 year deal this summer, we traded for him (with a package that includes Benn+), and resign Weber to a very long contract. Seems really unrealistic, but I tried.

As for my deal, I was just looking to see what kind of value Weber has. He's a franchise D-Man that will win a Norris in the future. He's value has got to be at an all-time high. I just threw a proposal out there to see how the value compares. And it seems like Dallas is overpaying, so let's reduce the package. Are Dallas fans willing to go Benn+ for Weber? Is Nashville willing to go for that?

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07-27-2011, 11:51 PM
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Benn + for Weber? No. Weber is great but Benn could be a great forward for the Stars...and he's younger and cheaper for the foreseeable future. Not worth it IMO.

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07-28-2011, 01:31 AM
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Dubinsky + Kreider? Maybe some picks being added.

Dubinsky + Del Zotto is another option.

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07-28-2011, 01:46 AM
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Dubinsky + Kreider? Maybe some picks being added.

Dubinsky + Del Zotto is another option.
Not a fan of Dubinsky, and he's a downgrade from Benn. We don't need Del Zotto because he we already have Goose. I love Kreider, but he's not enough for Benn.

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07-28-2011, 03:06 AM
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straight up hall for jamie benn
That Adam Hall is a tough player. You might have to throw in a second rounder to sweeten the pot.

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07-28-2011, 03:50 AM
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Not a fan of Dubinsky, and he's a downgrade from Benn. We don't need Del Zotto because he we already have Goose. I love Kreider, but he's not enough for Benn.
I agree that Dubinsky is a slight downgrade from Benn, and considering that Dubinsky is older more value certainly needs to be added.

But I think Dubinsky is a pretty decent replacement for Benn as he is a similar type player (though I think Benn is certainly better than Dubinsky) and you also get a top LW prospect.

If you aren't a fan of Dubinsky then I suppose the trade won't sound too enticing. But I think Dubinsky + Kreider + maybe a 2nd isn't too far off in terms of value though maybe the 2nd needs to be a 1st. What about you?

Edit: Wow, I just realized Benn was a 5th round pick up. Brilliant drafting.

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07-28-2011, 04:01 AM
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As a Rangers and Stars fan, Dubi + Kreider + 2nd probably still isn't worth it for Dallas. Replacing Quality with Quantity and we're grooming Benn as a Center anyways.

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As a Rangers and Stars fan, Dubi + Kreider + 2nd probably still isn't worth it for Dallas. Replacing Quality with Quantity and we're grooming Benn as a Center anyways.
Yeah, I think the Rangers would still have to add a 1st to make it possible. Value wise I think it is quite close with the 1st added.

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Pominville has little to no value. Ennis is a solid prospect. The picks are just picks. I'd say that Benn is easily worth more than that. Think more along the lines of Myers for Benn straight up.
how does a ~60 point 2 way forward thats in his prime have little to no value? because he isnt 21 and the next richard winner for 21 straight years hes useless?

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how does a ~60 point 2 way forward thats in his prime have little to no value? because he isnt 21 and the next richard winner for 21 straight years hes useless?
In his last 4 seasons, he's had a steady decrease in points. He may be of value to the Sabres but his open value market is not enough to warrant a return of Benn.

I can gurantee you that no Stars fan would be pleased to see Pominville coming back unless the package includes Myers.

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07-29-2011, 08:11 AM
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In his last 4 seasons, he's had a steady decrease in points. He may be of value to the Sabres but his open value market is not enough to warrant a return of Benn.

I can gurantee you that no Stars fan would be pleased to see Pominville coming back unless the package includes Myers.
I'm actually a big fan of Pominville, but obviously not for Benn. Not only is the value not equal, but Dallas's prospect pool is STACKED with RH RWs. Adding one through trade just wouldn't make sense for us.

We really don't need Myers either, as much as I'd love to him. We have a lot of good defensive guys coming through the system you'll see in 2 years or so. If we were to trade Benn (we won't), it'd have to be for a young #1 C in the making. Which wouldn't make sense for any team.

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07-29-2011, 08:14 AM
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Would be very uneasy about it from Caps' perspective, but

Benn, Fistric for Carlson?

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07-29-2011, 09:02 AM
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Would be very uneasy about it from Caps' perspective, but

Benn, Fistric for Carlson?
Better start adding from a Washington standpoint.

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07-29-2011, 11:15 AM
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Would be very uneasy about it from Caps' perspective, but

Benn, Fistric for Carlson?
Benn,Fistric,Dallas 5th for Carlson, Johansson,Washington 1st??

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07-29-2011, 11:29 AM
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Would be very uneasy about it from Caps' perspective, but

Benn, Fistric for Carlson?
Benn, Fistric for Carlson, Alzner, and Colorado 1st 2012 is the only way I'd do that and I know the Caps and Caps fans wouldn't do it.

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07-29-2011, 12:31 PM
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There are soooo many bad proposals in here, but then again, you find that in any thread on this part of the boards.

Benn is possibly the best penalty killer in the NHL, at least from a stats standpoint. I don't see why Dallas would even consider trading him.
That said, if Dallas were to give him to the Avs for a bunch of spare parts equivalent to what some Leafs fans have offered, I'd be very happy

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07-29-2011, 12:46 PM
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I'm thinking Benn is a little over-rated on these boards. He definitely has a nice package of size and skill, but he shouldn't be bringing in 3 or 4 first round equivalents in a trade. From the Oilers that would be something like Eberle, Smid, and PRV/2012 first rounder. No chance in hell I'm sending that package to Dallas.

Dream on Stars fans.

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07-29-2011, 12:52 PM
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I'm thinking Benn is a little over-rated on these boards. He definitely has a nice package of size and skill, but he shouldn't be bringing in 3 or 4 first round equivalents in a trade. From the Oilers that would be something like Eberle, Smid, and PRV/2012 first rounder. No chance in hell I'm sending that package to Dallas.

Dream on Stars fans.
If people keep saying that "Joe Colborne + Jake Gardiner + Carl Gunnarson" can get Benn, I'd argue that he's rather criminally underrated here.

Then again, he's one of my favorite non-Avs players.

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07-29-2011, 01:56 PM
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I'm thinking Benn is a little over-rated on these boards. He definitely has a nice package of size and skill, but he shouldn't be bringing in 3 or 4 first round equivalents in a trade. From the Oilers that would be something like Eberle, Smid, and PRV/2012 first rounder. No chance in hell I'm sending that package to Dallas.

Dream on Stars fans.
Oh the irony. Eberle and PRV are overrated.

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07-29-2011, 02:31 PM
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I'm thinking Benn is a little over-rated on these boards. He definitely has a nice package of size and skill, but he shouldn't be bringing in 3 or 4 first round equivalents in a trade. From the Oilers that would be something like Eberle, Smid, and PRV/2012 first rounder. No chance in hell I'm sending that package to Dallas.

Dream on Stars fans.
You are right. It should be for a young, 2-way #1 defenseman. Those guys arent available though, so I guess we'll have to keep our young, 2-way soon-to-be 1st line center. Really sucks for us.

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Grabovski + Kadri ?

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Not even remotely close.

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