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08-04-2004, 05:26 PM
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Jay McKee?

Im a Canucks fan. I don't know too much about McKee myself. But he sounds like a pretty solid physical defenseman. And that is what the Canucks need right now.

Does he fight?
How physical is he?
Is he good defensively?
Is he a leader?
Does he kill penalties?
Does he play on the PP?
What would it take to get him out of Buffalo?
Does he have what it takes to be a Top 4 d-man in Vancouver?
Is he injury prone?
Does he block shots?

Thanks for answering my questions. Hopefully the Sabres make the playoffs next year instead of a crappy team like the Islanders.

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08-04-2004, 05:34 PM
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the one thing he does exceptionally well is block shots
he's an average fighter but doesnt fight much, not offensive, kills penalties pretty well
he needs to be paired with the right guy to be fully effective
his knee has been wonky for 2 years now
i like him a lot as a player, but i think he is overrated on these boards
as for what it would take to get him to vancouver, all i can say is that i would want it to involve an nhl-ready dman coming back

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the one thing he does exceptionally well is block shots
he's an average fighter but doesnt fight much, not offensive, kills penalties pretty well
he needs to be paired with the right guy to be fully effective
his knee has been wonky for 2 years now
i like him a lot as a player, but i think he is overrated on these boards
as for what it would take to get him to vancouver, all i can say is that i would want it to involve an nhl-ready dman coming back
Thanks. He doesn't sound like he is the guy we are looking for.

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Does he fight? Not really
Physical play: pretty physical, particularly last season
good defensively: pretty good, better last year than in year's past (you're going to notice a theme)
leader: not really but it's not that much of a problem
PK: yes
PP: no
what would it take: Allen. We can't afford to give up our most physical defenseman without getting one in return
top 4: has what it takes though he'd be 4th. I guess it'd be between McKee and Malik?
Injury prone: yes, unfortunately
block shots: very good

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Thanks. He doesn't sound like he is the guy we are looking for.
True if he was we would have kept Baron... Man I miss that guy

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True if he was we would have kept Baron... Man I miss that guy
McKee doesn't sound that much better than Baron. We already have Allen. We need a top 4 guy.

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I thought Ruff straightend out many of the problems McKee had devloped around his game the past two years, so there may be more return to come. He is definatly not a stand-alone dmen and you have to pair him with the right guy.

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McKee doesn't sound that much better than Baron. We already have Allen. We need a top 4 guy.

McKee is much much better then Murray Baron.

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Jay had a tough season last year. He battled through a couple of injuries. I thought he started looking like the McKee of old towards the end of the season. A lot of people forget, he was invited to the Olympic tryouts a few years back. When he's healthy and has a half decent pairing, he's a top three D.

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I wonder if Phoenix, a team who still may be looking to add to their blueline, would be interested in trading for McKee. Gretzky seemed to like him as a player in the past, evidenced by McKee's addition to the Canadian Olympic Team's orientation camp roster back in 2001.
Notice the name of Hockey Canada's Director of Communications? He was the Sabres 5th round pick in the 1990 draft.

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Jay had a tough season last year. He battled through a couple of injuries. I thought he started looking like the McKee of old towards the end of the season. A lot of people forget, he was invited to the Olympic tryouts a few years back. When he's healthy and has a half decent pairing, he's a top three D.
Bernsy, I swear I didn't see your post as I was looking for the link! That's pretty weird...

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Bernsy, I swear I didn't see your post as I was looking for the link! That's pretty weird...
scary eh?

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On an unrelated topic. I still want the Canucks to trade Sopel for Dumont.

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On an unrelated topic. I still want the Canucks to trade Sopel for Dumont.
So do I...

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So do I...
Would never get done from a Buffalo standpoint.

Drury, Dumont and Briere are all the core of the team whether you like Dumont and Drury or not (not a huge fan of either, buit I like them).

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So do I...
So what's the problem then? I think me and you should have a meeting with the Sabres and Canucks GM's, discuss this and sort it out.

This trade is definitley possible, the fans seem open to it and both teams would probably do it. What's the problem?

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So what's the problem then? I think me and you should have a meeting with the Sabres and Canucks GM's, discuss this and sort it out.

This trade is definitley possible, the fans seem open to it and both teams would probably do it. What's the problem?
The problem is that Sabres management is satisfied with not making any moves and is content on staying status qou.
I'm sure Van. GM would be more than willing to accept this deal, its just Darcy (GM) who chooses to sit on his hands.

As for the deal, Dumont for Sopel it makes sense for both teams and is very fair too.
Buffalo has depth at forward and Vancouver has depth on the blueline.
Sopel would fit right in on top 4 for Buffalo, they D looks very bad as it is right now.

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On McKee...

IMHO, McKee is a SOLID 2nd pairing guy. He is best when paired with another defensive defensemen and struggles when he has to clean up others messes. He will rarely make a mistake and is great at breaking up two on ones. While he isn't going to punish people as much as say a Stevens, he's not shy about hitting and has laid out a number of great players in his time. Him, along with Kalinin, are the two most untradable defensemen on this team.

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IMHO, McKee is a SOLID 2nd pairing guy. He is best when paired with another defensive defensemen and struggles when he has to clean up others messes..
That's a good decription of a 3rd pair dman. A 2nd pairing of two defensive dmen severely limits the offense of the team and also makes for boring games. If McKee's defensive game were such that he could be paired with an offensive dman or even a good 2-way dman, he'd belong on the 2nd pair. I really think he belongs on the 3rd pair and PK unit, where he'd still get decent icetime, and Tallinder needs to be developed on the 2nd pair.

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That's a good decription of a 3rd pair dman. A 2nd pairing of two defensive dmen severely limits the offense of the team and also makes for boring games. If McKee's defensive game were such that he could be paired with an offensive dman or even a good 2-way dman, he'd belong on the 2nd pair. I really think he belongs on the 3rd pair and PK unit, where he'd still get decent icetime, and Tallinder needs to be developed on the 2nd pair.
Agreed.

In fact, Mckee-Brown for a 3rd line pair would be one of the best in the entire league. However, it's the fact without Zhitnik we only have 1 legitimate Top 4 guy on our team that made us a non playoff team.

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Does he fight?
How physical is he?
Is he good defensively?
Is he a leader?
Does he kill penalties?
Does he play on the PP?
Does he have what it takes to be a Top 4 d-man in Vancouver?
Is he injury prone?
Does he block shots?
I was wondering if you guys could answer me these about Zhitnik. Im hoping the Canucks will get rid of Sopel and sign Zhitnik to take his spot.

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I was wondering if you guys could answer me these about Zhitnik. Im hoping the Canucks will get rid of Sopel and sign Zhitnik to take his spot.
Does he fight? If He Has To
How physical is he? Situational Physical
Is he good defensively? Yes
Is he a leader? Yes, on Buffalo at least
Does he kill penalties? Yes
Does he play on the PP? Yes
Does he have what it takes to be a Top 4 d-man in Vancouver? Yes
Is he injury prone? No
Does he block shots? Sabres don't block shots...

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Does he fight? If He Has To
How physical is he? Situational Physical
Is he good defensively? Yes
Is he a leader? Yes, on Buffalo at least
Does he kill penalties? Yes
Does he play on the PP? Yes
Does he have what it takes to be a Top 4 d-man in Vancouver? Yes
Is he injury prone? No
Does he block shots? Sabres don't block shots...
He sounds very good. That probably rules out the Canucks signing him if he rejected a 4 year contract for $16 million. I guess I can still hope.

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