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View Poll Results: Who is our #11 prospect?
Kenneth Agostino (19, Yale University/ECAC) 17 16.19%
Nick D'Agostino (21, Cornell University/ECAC) 0 0%
Brian Gibbons (23, Boston College/HE) 0 0%
Ben Hanowski (20, St. Cloud State/WCHA) 0 0%
Nick Johnson (25, Wilkes-Barre/AHL) 10 9.52%
Nick Petersen (22, Wilkes-Barre/AHL) 2 1.90%
Bryan Rust (19, Notre Dame/CCHA) 1 0.95%
Philip Samuelsson (20, Boston College/HE) 6 5.71%
Zack Sill (23, Wilkes-Barre/AHL) 0 0%
Carl Sneep (23, Wilkes-Barre/AHL) 2 1.90%
Paul Thompson (22, New Hampshire/HE) 6 5.71%
Dominik Uher (18, Spokane/WHL) 0 0%
Keven Veilleux (22, Wilkes-Barre/AHL) 48 45.71%
Joe Vitale (25, Wilkes-Barre/AHL) 13 12.38%
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08-02-2011, 04:24 PM
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Penguins #11 prospect

And Thiessen completes the top 10 consisting of 5 defensemen, 4 wingers and 1 goalie. Added nobody this time.

#1 Simon Després (77.78%)
#2 Eric Tangradi (64.24%)
#3 Beau Bennett (40.00%)
#4 Dustin Jeffrey (45.33%)
#5 Joe Morrow (77.70%)
#6 Tom Kühnhackl (70.23%)
#7 Robert Bortuzzo (65.45%)
#8 Scott Harrington (27.64% in #8 poll, 53.41% in runoff)
#9 Brian Strait (27.64% in #8 poll, 46.59% in runoff)
#10 Brad Thiessen (27.73%%)

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08-02-2011, 05:09 PM
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Voted for Veilleux. Same reason as the last poll.

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08-02-2011, 05:29 PM
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Get a lot closer now, voted for Veilleux.

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08-02-2011, 05:38 PM
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Just noticed Grant's absence from the list. Poor guy...

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Voted for the Versatile one.

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Voted for the Versatile one.
That's because you are a wise, wise man. Seriously how the hell is anyone voting for Agostino before either KV or the King of Vitality?

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That's because you are a wise, wise man. Seriously how the hell is anyone voting for Agostino before either KV or the King of Vitality?
I only saw Agostino twice. Was not impressed at all. Not saying he is going to suck, but, imo, he is a LONG way away.

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KV44 without a doubt, after who has been taken, for sure.

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KV, but it's close between him Thompson, Agostino and Vitale.

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Going with Thompson again.

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08-03-2011, 08:48 AM
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That's because you are a wise, wise man. Seriously how the hell is anyone voting for Agostino before either KV or the King of Vitality?
Because beating the hell out of team Holy Cross is pretty impressive to some people.

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Going with Thompson again.
Ditto

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Just noticed Grant's absence from the list. Poor guy...
ECHL power play specialists are not impressive.

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ECHL power play specialists are not impressive.
Too true. I was more highlighting how far he has fallen since being drafted.

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I always saw Grant as a guy who would be a 6-7 NHL defenseman in the MAB role, if he reached his potential. PPQB who got 5-7 mins of ES ice a game.

A guy isn't going to develop in any league if he's only averaging 10-11 games a season over the last 3 years, which is what Grant is averaging.

He has a really long road to hoe if he's ever going to be an NHL player, IMO.

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His transition to pro hasn't been encouraging to say the least. I have a very hard time seeing him make it to the NHL at this point, to be honest. The recent influx of defense in our pool doesn't help his case.

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Vitale, I just like the way he plays, and would hate to see him play against us.

I've seen Grant play a handful of times in Wheeling, and its tough to judge because of all his injuries, he didnt stand out. I also used to go see Bissonnette down there alot when he was their PPQB, a pretty good one at the ECHL level at that.

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Vitale, I just like the way he plays, and would hate to see him play against us.

I've seen Grant play a handful of times in Wheeling, and its tough to judge because of all his injuries, he didnt stand out. I also used to go see Bissonnette down there alot when he was their PPQB, a pretty good one at the ECHL level at that.
What I gather from this post is that Grant projects as the next Paul Bissonnette. I like him better now.

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Difficult decision here...

Vitale -- surest bet to play (and I love the player), but upside is limited
Rust, Agostino -- promising freshman players with top-9 upside
Samuelsson -- very solid college Dman who improved his stock since being drafted. Pens' brass is very high on this player

I love KV's physical & skill package, but I think his upside is limited to 4th line duty, and not as much of a sure bet as Vitale. I think Joe is ahead of him, and KV is behind the guys listed above.

Going with Samuelsson

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Difficult decision here...

Vitale -- surest bet to play (and I love the player), but upside is limited
Rust, Agostino -- promising freshman players with top-9 upside
Samuelsson -- very solid college Dman who improved his stock since being drafted. Pens' brass is very high on this player

I love KV's physical & skill package, but I think his upside is limited to 4th line duty, and not as much of a sure bet as Vitale. I think Joe is ahead of him, and KV is behind the guys listed above.

Going with Samuelsson
Well TBH, Veilleux's upside is a top 6 player, not a 4th liner.

Whether he reaches that or not is another story, but that has nothing to do with his upside.

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I've heard Veilleux called a 4th line player and a goon over the last 3 days. Still kind of scratching my head.

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Because beating the hell out of team Holy Cross is pretty impressive to some people.

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Imagine Rust's team won his division and he played a significant top 9 role despite the fact he was behind mostly upper classmen as a freshman. Now take away some grit and replace it with an outside shot to contribute in a top 6 role, but leave that strong two-way play. There's Agostino for you.

He's not just a Crusader killer like you suggested.

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Voted for Agostino. Meant to click D'Agostino.

Veilleux is closer to #17 or #18 for me.

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what type of player is Agostino? What style of play? Who does he compare to at the NHL level? I haven't been able to find any footage on him. thanks

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http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/20...-for-agostino/

Good speed, offensive ability, commitment to a two-way game

I can't really give you much more than this article states.

Here's one quote for those worried about him just raking up points against some weaker ECAC teams.

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In Yale’s first game of the New Year, the freshman buried three goals and tied a team freshman record with five points as the Elis routed Holy Cross, 10–3. Agostino has not let up the pace. He has played in every game since then and scored a total of 11 points in 2011. No Yale player has more.

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