The 5th is low risk especially considering the Pats always end up with at least a dozen picks per draft anyway.
I can't imagine the Pats would use him at NT since they've already got a pro-bowler at the position, and he'll be much better at DE (he gets to play the B gap, and double teams are nothing new to him). He's a prototypical 3 technique, but he can also play at nose in a 4-3. Hell, he would probably be one of the top 3-4 NTs in the game if he wanted to be, but it's tougher to get the big sack totals at that position and he seems more interested in his numbers than helping his team win football games.
Even though it went sour, he was still an animal in Washington when he wanted to be. He'll be a force in NE, no doubt.
Yeah he defenitly wont be the NT for the Pats. Wilfork is one of the best in the league at the position. He will more or less be taking over the position of DE that has been a hole for us since Seymour left. I am excited that we at least someone that potentially can be a beast to help the pass rush. We have seriously lacked in that department for the past 3 seasons.
Also it sounds like the Texans are in the "lead" for Asomugha for around the 12 - 14 / year range. I hope he does land there.
I like Bush, but he's not all that good of a playmaker. He's inconsistent as ****, so it's not like he'll constantly get quality yardage on the ground.
He has HR potential, yes, but his hands are inconsistent, he can't always run between tackles, and he sometimes runs scared.
Definitely not feature back material. I'm not sure what Miami is thinking.
i think hes a playmaker in that he can catch the ball as a receiver from the backfield. I mean he isnt like prime time brian westbrook but i believe hes fairly decent at it.
well tahts what i remember anyway, i mean i dont watch too many saints games, but i've always had that impression of him. He definitely cant run up the middle, guy has been an outside runner since college. i mean thats what he was known for that outside speed, but the NFL is no NCAA, guys arent that easy to beat
and desean jackson, REPORT TO CAMP DOOD, youll get a big pay raise at the end of your contact! get yoooo ass back, and continue building with vick
Holy crap, someone who knows the Ravens roster. This is too exciting to pass up...
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Man that's risky though no? Rice's production took a dip due to the lack of quality blocking. Hopefully Reid works out for you guys.
Absolutely. The O-line had some serious struggles last year; but management as far as I can tell has simply had it with Gaither. It's a real shame, because a year ago I would've argued he was a top 5 LT at worst; and now he's going to be struggling to find a job due to a poor work ethic. I'm fine with every spot on the line (including Oher, who took a lot more flack than he deserved imo) outside of RT. Oher-Grubbs-Birk-Yanda is a pretty damn good set... the problem comes if Yanda is shifted RT.
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Can Cody play more than 2 downs? (honest question)
I remember people were saying at the draft he's a 2 down guy.
Regardless, as I was doing research for the HF mock draft (I was the Ravens), most fans were saying a 3-4 DE was needed the most. Redding, while came on late, still had some major deficiencies in his game.
I think the cutting of Gregg means they believe he can. There's a few pictures of Cody poppig up now... dude took conditioning to heart. He's down 20 lbs from his weight at this time last year, but I'd bet he's down 35+ bad lbs. I wouldn't say he looks lean... but he's in MUCH better shape.
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I dunno man, both Dickson and Pitta haven't blocked in a while from what I gathered. Hoping that he can learn and somewhat perfect blocking when he hasn't done it in college much is asking alot.
TE blocking is one of the most important aspects in having and maintaining a rushing attack. Ask Foster from the Texans. People still think that his best production came when his FB was blocking for him, when it's been proven that his best production came in 2 TE blocking sets.
Going for an above average blocker to 2 rookie TEs who can't block is risky to say the least haha.
Dickson started 4 games last season while Heap was injured. @ Atlanta, vs. Pitt, @ Houston and vs. New Orleans.
@ Atlanta: 116 rushing yards on 21 attempts.
vs. Pitt: 54 rushing on 24 attempts.
@ Houston: 63 rushing on 24 attempts.
vs. New Orleans: 208 rushing on 39 attempts.
So... obviously one phenomenal game on the ground, one average game, and two awful. They certainly had some success, but they also had some major issues.
I agree it's a huge gamble. I'd feel much better about having Heap here for one more year along with Dickson to simply give them a different look. I don't think it's a sink or swim move, but it's very high risk... they will hopefully put those cap dollars to good use.
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Rumor has it that you guys are in on OLB Roth and Kindle will start the season on PUP.
Roth will do great opposite Suggs.
I've read the Roth rumors, but Kindle will not start the season on the PUP per pretty much every Ravens beat writer. I'd still prefer Roth to be brought in so Kindle can be brought along slowly, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Kindle win the starting spot. He's had a year of familiarizing himself with the defense, and should be in phenomenal shape.[/QUOTE]
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I think you guys will just roll with Boldin + rookie WRs and pray that one them can hit the ground running.
I sincerely hope not. I know Reid had a lot of success in the return game last year, but he was invisible any time he saw the field on offense. Torey Smith and Tandon Doss both look like nice options moving forward, but we would be counting on BOTH of them to hit the ground running, and that's a far bigger risk than anything we have taken at any other position on the field.
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I dunno why you guys aren't looking into a guy like Jonathan Joseph truth be told. He'd be cheaper, but he'd be just as good for you guys imo.
A lot depends on Foxworth; he's carrying a fairly high cap number and has two years left on his deal at around $4,000,000 or so. If they cut him, something is coming, if not, then they'll start the season with Foxworth, Webb, Smith and probably one other guy (possibly Carr, possibly someone else who will come from the bargain bin).
I'd rather cut Foxworth, bring in Joseph, and then let Webb and Smith fight it out for the last starting spot.
Looks like the Kevin Kolb deal is finally done. Going to Arizona for a 2nd round pick and Rodgers-Cromartie.
Trade was pretty much written up 2 days ago. Will be intresting to see how Kolb does now as a starter.
I'm curious to see how he does as well. Over the last 2 years, they've lost Boldin and now Breaston, so not sure what other threats they will have outside of Larry and an average running game. Larry is gonna get a ton of touches that's for sure.
I'm curious to see how he does as well. Over the last 2 years, they've lost Boldin and now Breaston, so not sure what other threats they will have outside of Larry and an average running game. Larry is gonna get a ton of touches that's for sure.
Yeah, Fitzgerald is still probably the 1st and 2nd best reciever in the league. And he still managed over a 1,000 years with nobodys throwing him the ball last year.
And for Kolb he was surronded by one of the best recieving groups in the league. So it will be intresting how he does now with Arizona.
I've read the Roth rumors, but Kindle will not start the season on the PUP per pretty much every Ravens beat writer. I'd still prefer Roth to be brought in so Kindle can be brought along slowly, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Kindle win the starting spot. He's had a year of familiarizing himself with the defense, and should be in phenomenal shape.
I like Roth. Very underrated pass rusher, and he can get to the QB. Him opposite of Suggs should be fantastic imo. Any idea on Kindle's shape? As in did he train a lot last year?
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I sincerely hope not. I know Reid had a lot of success in the return game last year, but he was invisible any time he saw the field on offense. Torey Smith and Tandon Doss both look like nice options moving forward, but we would be counting on BOTH of them to hit the ground running, and that's a far bigger risk than anything we have taken at any other position on the field.
I really like Doss, so it's maybe just me, but the dude has some phenomenal hands. Also, he's terrific route runner.
I personally think he can do well. Maybe I'm just being optimistic.
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A lot depends on Foxworth; he's carrying a fairly high cap number and has two years left on his deal at around $4,000,000 or so. If they cut him, something is coming, if not, then they'll start the season with Foxworth, Webb, Smith and probably one other guy (possibly Carr, possibly someone else who will come from the bargain bin).
I'd rather cut Foxworth, bring in Joseph, and then let Webb and Smith fight it out for the last starting spot.
Foxworth isn't that good. I'm surprised you guys kept him over a guy like Wilson(who went to the 'Skins IIRC). Wilson has more upside and performed better imo.
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Looks like the Kevin Kolb deal is finally done. Going to Arizona for a 2nd round pick and Rodgers-Cromartie.
Trade was pretty much written up 2 days ago. Will be intresting to see how Kolb does now as a starter.
Silly silly trade. I'd rather sign V. Young and try utilize his big arm, or trade for Orton.
Instead they trade a probowl caliber CB + 2nd for a 7 game starter. Yeeesh.
Falcons OT Clabo signs with the Bills. (hurray!)
NFLN apparently has the Falcons talking with the G-Men over Osi
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Nope. I think due to Jersey sales he wasn't allowed to change it.
(Wiki lists it ambiguously as 'money issues')
I stand corrected. It seems kinda strange that he wasn't allowed to change his name. I'd like to know on what grounds the NFL (or the Bengals organization) would be able to stop him.
I stand corrected. It seems kinda strange that he wasn't allowed to change his name. I'd like to know on what grounds the NFL (or the Bengals organization) would be able to stop him.
Maybe a clause in his contract?
Also, Greg Olsen traded to the Panthers.
I know they are making some nice moves, but they are battling for 3rd in the NFC south right now. 1 and 2 is between Tampa and NO imo. (didn't forget Atlanta )
I like Roth. Very underrated pass rusher, and he can get to the QB. Him opposite of Suggs should be fantastic imo. Any idea on Kindle's shape? As in did he train a lot last year?
Kindle's shape is fantastic.
Check out Baltimoreravens.com... by all accounts, while it was only the first day, he was turning heads today. Ditto Jah Reid. Day 1, of course, but still a good sign.
Can Roth play in coverage? Kindle struggles there. That said, Suggs will play pretty much every down, so if they're looking at Suggs, JJ (running downs) and Kindle (passing downs), you've probably got the guys who will play the bulk of the snaps. Not sure there's a need for Roth IF Kindle is good to go.
I wouldn't be upset if the Ravens went to the bargain bin and used the cap space to extend Flacco early.
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I really like Doss, so it's maybe just me, but the dude has some phenomenal hands. Also, he's terrific route runner.
I personally think he can do well. Maybe I'm just being optimistic.
You're not the only one... he was literally Joe Flacco's pick. They gave him a list of 10ish receivers they though would be available between rounds 3-5... Flacco put Doss #1.
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Foxworth isn't that good. I'm surprised you guys kept him over a guy like Wilson(who went to the 'Skins IIRC). Wilson has more upside and performed better imo.
Agreed.
Wilson also got big money from Washington though. BIG money.
Word is we're chasing after Osi Uminvera (SP?) and Darrel Docket.
Not sure how Osi would fit in... is he big enough to play in a 3-4?
Wilson also got big money from Washington though. BIG money.
Word is we're chasing after Osi Uminvera (SP?) and Darrel Docket.
Not sure how Osi would fit in... is he big enough to play in a 3-4?
I wouldn't say he got that much from the Redskins. $13.5M over 3 years isn't that bad, with only $6M guaranteed I'd say it's pretty reasonable.
For the Redskins it pretty much guarantees Rogers isn't coming back, but Wilson would've started ahead of him anyway. With Hall on the opposite side, Barnes at nickle, and one of the best safety combos of Landry and Atogwe, I'm really liking the Redskins' backfield.
...now if only they could get a NT and an offensive line. Oh, and starting QB!
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