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07-28-2011, 10:12 PM
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I wouldn't say he got that much from the Redskins. $13.5M over 3 years isn't that bad, with only $6M guaranteed I'd say it's pretty reasonable.

For the Redskins it pretty much guarantees Rogers isn't coming back, but Wilson would've started ahead of him anyway. With Hall on the opposite side, Barnes at nickle, and one of the best safety combos of Landry and Atogwe, I'm really liking the Redskins' backfield.

...now if only they could get a NT and an offensive line. Oh, and starting QB!
I thought he got a 4 year deal?

He's solid. Very solid. If he's your #2 you're in great shape. He can make plays, is a bit of a ball hawk, and is very agile. Loved the trade for him last year, and even if we didn't bring him back, I'm still fine with the 6th round pick we gave up for him. That said, there's no way the Ravens could justify paying him that much, when he'd probably be the #3 here.

I think Stallworth will look good as a #3 as well.

... and Chester is ****ing awful.

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Can Roth play in coverage? Kindle struggles there. That said, Suggs will play pretty much every down, so if they're looking at Suggs, JJ (running downs) and Kindle (passing downs), you've probably got the guys who will play the bulk of the snaps. Not sure there's a need for Roth IF Kindle is good to go.
Roth is meh in coverage from what I recall. I'm not sure where you guys will put him regardless.

JJ is an OLB who is terrific at run D, and pretty solid in coverage (IIRC), but can't rush the passer for jack. We all know Suggs and Lewis and how good they are.

Roth on the other hand is fantastic run stopper, but gets a ton of QB pressures too.


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Word is we're chasing after Osi Uminvera (SP?) and Darrel Docket.

Not sure how Osi would fit in... is he big enough to play in a 3-4?
Dockett rumor is fake IIRC. Fantastic player.

Osi, I would have to imagine, would fit in at OLB and nothing else. He can't play 3-4 end.

If I were you guys, I'd just get Cullen Jenkins for the 3-4 end.

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Roth is meh in coverage from what I recall. I'm not sure where you guys will put him regardless.

JJ is an OLB who is terrific at run D, and pretty solid in coverage (IIRC), but can't rush the passer for jack. We all know Suggs and Lewis and how good they are.

Roth on the other hand is fantastic run stopper, but gets a ton of QB pressures too.




Dockett rumor is fake IIRC. Fantastic player.

Osi, I would have to imagine, would fit in at OLB and nothing else. He can't play 3-4 end.

If I were you guys, I'd just get Cullen Jenkins for the 3-4 end.
If Osi can't play end, he's useless to me. Redding is the only player on D that I'm overly concerned with upgrading... and even then, I'm more concerned with upgrading the receivers and/or trying to bring Heap back. I have no interest in adding another LB (though I would've loved Matthews to be drafted... ****ing Bears).

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07-28-2011, 10:33 PM
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I'm sorry but shaking my head at anyone questioning the Haynesworth move. This is Bill freakin Bellichick. The best talent evaluator in the game today. Sure he's made some mistakes in the past but more times than not this guys move turn out to be genius. Haynesworth becomes a pro bowler this year.

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I thought he got a 4 year deal?

He's solid. Very solid. If he's your #2 you're in great shape. He can make plays, is a bit of a ball hawk, and is very agile. Loved the trade for him last year, and even if we didn't bring him back, I'm still fine with the 6th round pick we gave up for him. That said, there's no way the Ravens could justify paying him that much, when he'd probably be the #3 here.

I think Stallworth will look good as a #3 as well.

... and Chester is ****ing awful.
I really didn't like either the Stallworth or Chester signings. Chester is a utility player who's now being paid like a starter and I'm still not sure he's an upgrade on anything the Redskins already have (and their OL, particularly the interior) is terrible.

I'm wondering if Stallworth makes it through camp, let alone as the #3 receiver. They need a lot of help on offense, but how Stallworth plays ahead of Moss, Armstrong, Hankerson, or Gaffney is a mystery to me. I don't think he's an upgrade on any of those guys, and I can't see them cutting one of the other young guys they have who might make something of themselves some day to have a 31 year old #5 WR on the roster.

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The Ravens aren't really a typical 3-4 team though. Umenyora could be brought in and play in a rotation as a DE when they go into those 4 man front situations. He definitely wouldn't be playing the end in a 3-4.

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Saints signed Darren Sproles.

More durable than Bush and just as explosive.

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Saints signed Darren Sproles.

More durable than Bush and just as explosive.
Except we has 3 RBs who should get carries ahead of him in PT, Ivory and Ingram.

I'm not sure how that's going to work, but hey, if Sproles is ok with that role, then it's good for me.

Saints offense looking good.

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I really didn't like either the Stallworth or Chester signings. Chester is a utility player who's now being paid like a starter and I'm still not sure he's an upgrade on anything the Redskins already have (and their OL, particularly the interior) is terrible.

I'm wondering if Stallworth makes it through camp, let alone as the #3 receiver. They need a lot of help on offense, but how Stallworth plays ahead of Moss, Armstrong, Hankerson, or Gaffney is a mystery to me. I don't think he's an upgrade on any of those guys, and I can't see them cutting one of the other young guys they have who might make something of themselves some day to have a 31 year old #5 WR on the roster.
Like I said.. Chester is awful. That's just a horrible signing.

I think Stallworth still has game, he was just HORRIBLY used by Cam last year.


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The Ravens aren't really a typical 3-4 team though. Umenyora could be brought in and play in a rotation as a DE when they go into those 4 man front situations. He definitely wouldn't be playing the end in a 3-4.
They aren't, but I don't think that means they can man Umenyora to be a specialist either. They're tight against the cap. If they're going to pay a guy he has to be a 3 down guy, period.

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Vince Young has latched on with the Eagles as Vick's backup. One-year deal.

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07-28-2011, 11:44 PM
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That's a steal. Regardless of what people think about him he'll be a killer short yardage guy and save Vick the beatings.
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Except we has 3 RBs who should get carries ahead of him in PT, Ivory and Ingram.

I'm not sure how that's going to work, but hey, if Sproles is ok with that role, then it's good for me.

Saints offense looking good.
I can't see sproles not being utilized in that offense doesn't matter who is supposedly ahead of him on the depth chart
he's just too dynamic.

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I'm sorry but shaking my head at anyone questioning the Haynesworth move. This is Bill freakin Bellichick. The best talent evaluator in the game today. Sure he's made some mistakes in the past but more times than not this guys move turn out to be genius. Haynesworth becomes a pro bowler this year.
He gets cut before week one.

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Hopefully that will put an end to Favre rumors of backing up Vick.

Would rather have Young. Still young (no pun intended), still has potential. Can also run the ball so itll be good stuff for the Eagles.

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I can't see sproles not being utilized in that offense doesn't matter who is supposedly ahead of him on the depth chart
he's just too dynamic.
Honestly, he's probably going to be a primary ST (punt/kick returns) and 3rd down back.

Of his $14 million, only $6 is guaranteed.

Ivory and Ingram are most definitely going to get their touches provided they are healthy. Probably PT too.

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Falcons get Ray Edwards. Very reasonable contract. Nice bookend for Abraham. As I expected they released Michael Jenkins and Jamaal Anderson. Frees up some cap space for another key move. Expect something at Defensive Back.

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Falcons get Ray Edwards. Very reasonable contract. Nice bookend for Abraham. As I expected they released Michael Jenkins and Jamaal Anderson. Frees up some cap space for another key move. Expect something at Defensive Back.
They don't have a lot of good receivers do they? They're pretty thin there.

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Nnamdi Asomugha signs with the Eagles...as if I didn't hate them enough before.

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Eagles gonna be a beast this year. Loving it, absolutely loving it

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Nnamdi Asomugha signs with the Eagles...as if I didn't hate them enough before.
Superbowl favourites if they get Jackson to show up(and he will with the new free agency rules)

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They don't have a lot of good receivers do they? They're pretty thin there.
Well, they are pretty set for starters. One of the best receivers in the game and one of the best rookie receivers entering the league, so they should be fine.

They aren't exactly deep with tons of talent, but with Douglas and using Gonzalez and Turner a lot, they don't need 4+ wideouts.


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I would expect Samuels to be shipped out from Philly. Hopefully for elite level LB.
The eagles have 3 pro-bowl caliber CB and i cant see them running a nickel defense, and i dont imagin any of the 3 will be very happy with a rotation. Samuels hasnt been at camp for personal reasons.

Trade strength for weakness.. move samuals for a linebacker.

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They don't have a lot of good receivers do they? They're pretty thin there.
No, I think they're good. Roddy White is an all-pro, Harry Douglas is solid and they drafted Julio Jones. If they were concerned about the position they wouldn't have released Jenkins.

Edit: I see Sdig14 beat me to it.

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