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08-04-2004, 09:48 PM
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Would a lockout hurt hockey in your city?

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In Edmonton, no, a half to full season wiped out probably wouldn't hurt hockey at all. Same goes for the other 4 canadian cities and Toronto.

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Not at all in New York. We have 7 other teams to watch! Go Yankees!

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The Habs have an enough loyal fanbase to survive a 10 years lockout.

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Probably not. The city doesn't really notice that we have a hockey team till January anyway. Columbus is a just a large campus.

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The Habs have an enough loyal fanbase to survive a 10 years lockout.

Same with most Canadian cities. Financially the Flames & Oilers might be hurt badly but they should survive OK, Ottawa & Nucks have rich enough owners to be fine, Habs base is huge, TO have buckets of money. In all the cities the fans would flock back after being hockey starved.

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I live half way between Seattle and Vancouver, BC. Since hockey is hardly a blip on the screen around here a lockout certainly would have no effect. Not so on the Canadian side of the border, though. As an American hockey fan living in a football region I would personally be effectived since I'm a Canucks season ticket holder.

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For Los Angeles...

Yes. LA has a small group of loyal and hardcore fans that will come back no matter what. But there are not enough of them and definitely not enough to fill an arena. The organization has always relied on the fringe fan, the transition fan, the casual fan to fill the arena. If a lockout occurred, a lot of those fans would disappear and it would be a long time before they came back. An impasse would not destroy the fan base, but it would definitely take a hit. But I think that is something this organization is now prepared to risk.

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the other 4 canadian cities and Toronto.
The other 4 canadian cities and Toronto?

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Just to get an idea

In Edmonton, no, a half to full season wiped out probably wouldn't hurt hockey at all. Same goes for the other 4 canadian cities and Toronto.

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Just to get an idea

In Edmonton, no, a half to full season wiped out probably wouldn't hurt hockey at all. Same goes for the other 4 canadian cities and Toronto.
4 other Canadian cities and Toronto? I don't get it.

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Not long term in FLA, because few ppl go to the games anyways. It depends, if they win, they will sell out.

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it actually might make more people go if gomez plays for the aces (echl team) but right now he said he is going to italy. Ty conklin, a few other alaskans. But gomez would probably be the main attraction.

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In Pittsburgh, most certainly. Our organization is trying to get public support for a new arena or at least a slot license for Mario Lemieux (quick plug for Slotsformario.com to sign the petition if you have not already) to fund the new building. A lockout that provided the NHL with a salary cap, revenue sharing, and the NHL's favorite phrase "cost certainty" would be beneifical for the franchise. So it really could go either way, but I know the city was very excited about the young teams winning streak at the end of the season and the Pens off season moves, so it would hurt the momentum built up.

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Hockey has such a unique position in Nashville's sports spectrum. Baseball's lockout was big news. Papers all over were writing about the greedy players or owners. A hockey lockout might just fly under the radar and when the season pops back up, it might not miss a beat. Sure, the diehards will know. But these are the same diehards who'd show up to the hockey game if it was two polar bears a stick and a puck.

I'm not sure it will kill hockey in Nashville. It certainly won't help. But this is one instance where hockey's low profile might be to it's advantage.

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Denver: yes and no

Kronke is richer than Mammon and owns the arena. College hockey is in great shape DU is deffending the national title. Football will dominate until January anyway and there is no way anyone will get worse press than CU.

Some time off may help with the pressure on the team

On the otherhand the Nuggets are on an upswing and might take the 2nd spot in the sports landscape.

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It would probably devistate Tampa at this moment, we're riding a huge high from the Stanley cup, people know about and are behind the team, and I'm sure that missing an entire season and letting the Buc's have the entire market would treat Tampa very badly.

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The Habs have an enough loyal fanbase to survive a 10 years lockout.

Are you delusional or just plain stupid? I don't care how loyal you think a sports team fans are, a long-term lockout will hurt all teams. Asides from people with nothing else to do, who is going to sit around and wait for the NHL to get their heads out of their ***** and make the league work? I have been a season ticket hold for the Hurricanes since they moved to Raleigh and I generally support the team. If there is a lockout for an extended amount of time I will spend my entertainment dollars elsewhere. There are enough options that I don't have to wait for the NHL to come back. Montreal is a great city (from what I have seen on my trips there) and I am sure there are other things going on their other than hockey. People will find other things to do.


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Are you delusional or just plain stupid? I don't care how loyal you think a sports team fans are, a long-term lockout will hurt all teams. Asides from people with nothing else to do, who is going to sit around and wait for the NHL to get their heads out of their ***** and make the league work? I have been a season ticket hold for the Hurricanes since they moved to Raleigh and I generally support the team. If there is a lockout for an extended amount of time I will spend my entertainment dollars elsewhere. There are enough options that I don't have to wait for the NHL to come back. Montreal is a great city (from what I have seen on my trips their) and I am sure there are other things going on their other than hockey. People will find other things to do.
I dont think he is stupid. Maybe YOU should go to Montreal to see what is the city before calling someone stupid. Montreal is not a hockey city. It's a Montreal Canadiens City.

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In the short term it could be very painful for Pittsburgh, but for the long term it may be the best thing to happen to us since...umm...drafting Evgeni Malkin...but besides that...

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My St. Louis Opinion -

The Blues always seem to draw a pretty good # of fans with approx. 15 sellouts a year. The Savvis Center holds around 20,000 fans and I'm guessing that the average attendance is around 16,000 to 17,000 per game.

With that said - a 1 to 2 year lockout would hurt this city pretty bad. This city is and always will be Baseball first and I could see a lockout causing the Blues to lose approx. 4-5 thousand fans per game. All of the Business Seats would probably be shifted to the Cardinals especially with the new stadium in 2006.

We have our loyal fans......but way more bandwagon fans that join in when the football season is over.


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I suspect that it will kill hockey in Chicago, since most people don't recognize that the Hawks exist as it is.

At home in Indianapolis, it may actually help. The addicts, like myself, will be forced (I'd go anyway) to go to the USHL games to get our fix. The local franchise is actually playing on that fact in its season ticket advertising.

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Hockey wont be affected one single bit here as we dont even have a single rink.

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here in Chicago nobody would notice, even fewer would care.

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Yes, a lockout hurts every city.

Why? because all the local businesses that people attend before/after a game (or during) will not see the same people spending traffic.

How about the bars, hotels, restaurants, markets, fast-food, etc. around your home arena? Without 13-19K people going in the direction of the arena, that's a lot of lost revenue for local businesses.

There goes the steak dinner before the game, the pre-game beers at a local bar, the post-game beers/dinner.

Clothing retailers will suffer as well. No games, no interest in the licensed shirts, jerseys, hats, etc... Then add in Christmas season if still no hockey.... Discounts move merchandise, but also hurt a companies bottom line.

The lockout offers ZERO benefit to your local businesses.

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Yes, a lockout hurts every city.

Why? because all the local businesses that people attend before/after a game (or during) will not see the same people spending traffic.

How about the bars, hotels, restaurants, markets, fast-food, etc. around your home arena? Without 13-19K people going in the direction of the arena, that's a lot of lost revenue for local businesses.
Nahhh. Chicago is such a large area for food and restaraunts, hotels, conventions and all the rest (the northside is essentially one big entertainment district) that the tiny amounts of revenue generated by the Hawks would be essentially unnoticed by it's absence. Chicago is much, much bigger than any hockey team ever will be. The city itself and it's vendors won't feel a pinch in the slightest. Perhaps your argument would hold water in smaller cities like St.Louis but not in a major, international city like Chicago.

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