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07-28-2011, 04:44 PM
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Look around the league. DJ King's don't get a whole lot of icetime, if they even get a sweater in the postseason.

This is akin to second guessing the goalie change that never happened. We're all grasping at straws.

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Definitely Hendricks has more qualities than King, he even managed to step up as a shootout specialist last season

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The idea is that King provides back up for our Nice Guy team like Brashear did. Make the kids braver. King never got that chance. I dunno if he can be that guy but the team needs someone to be.

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QUOTE=BobRouse;35463085]DUDE!

You do realize the guy played a grand total of 13 NHL games the previous 2 years before he got to the Caps right????? Injuries kept him out which makes it worse because harder to do hockey stuff when you are in rehab/therapy/

OFCOURSE he's gonna be detached form the flow of the game. That is why he looked so out of place.[/QUOTE]

Didn't mean to rouse u Rouse! Injured, yes, but his game 1 with the Caps was his 102nd NHL game!.Not exactly raw from juniors!
How much prep does it take to look "in place" as a fourth line energy guy anyway? Skate hard, rattle the boards a few times, push and cuss the closest thing to a
thug on the ice... Get a fight if your lucky and skate off the ice. Jeez, at 6'1 230 he should have this s* cold!

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King has been nothing short of terrible in DC. I honestly don't think there's anything about his game that's defensible. Pretty sure Matt Bradley won more fights than he did last season. Matt freaking Bradley.

Hated the trade when they did it, and he's done nothing to change my opinion of it.
I ripped the trade when it happened, too. He's simply a fighter on skates with little real hockey ability--that's been his rep for a while, which is why his icetime in St. Louis was so limited even when he was healthy. Get somebody who can play the game and contribute with the "little things," who also can fight. Fighting is a marginal thing these days, with too many fights simply done for show, and King's a show fighter. Hendericks took King's job away because he knew when to pick his fights and why, and did a damn good job of doing it.

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07-28-2011, 09:04 PM
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I'm still mad I couldn't pound the glass when I saw Hendricks fight Konopka in Long Island. Damn photographers. The fight was right there!

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[QUOTE=HTFN;35447461]What about Chris Drury on the cheap to keep Johansson or Laich out of the 3C spot?

Just idle thoughts, I'm not sure if he's better suited to a third or fourth line role at this point, but it would again increase the work ethic of our bottom 6, at least. I think (not sure) that it would push Sjogren out of the immediate roster, though, which I'm hesitant to do until they at least see what he's got at big boy's camp.

Ovechkin - Backstrom - Knuble
Laich - Johansson - Semin
Brouwer - Drury - Ward
Chimera - Halpern - Hendricks
Sjogren?/Beagle/Hanson or King or something.

I feel like I'm forgetting someone.

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Drury a hear tand soul guy?

Expensive sob you want to hire stopping your youth graduating....instead focusing on a "has been" who would bring salary cap miseries to your team.


Wonderful!

Any other great ideas?

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If you're going to spend a million on Drury you might as well give the same offer to Hannan instead and see if he bites just because he doesn't want to move his family for another year.

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I'd take Drury over Perreault 5 days out of the week. The other two are the first two days that Perreault is called up and actually plays well before vanishing.

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I'd take Drury over Perreault 5 days out of the week. The other two are the first two days that Perreault is called up and actually plays well before vanishing.
Pity he's waiver eligible, or we could exploit that by sending him down and immediately calling him back up every few games.

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Pity he's waiver eligible, or we could exploit that by sending him down and immediately calling him back up every few games.
I wonder if benching him during the 2nd period of every game would have the same effect...

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If it's the Drury who played for the Avs, then I'd take him. Rangers Drury, not so much. I highly doubt he'd sign a two-way deal though.

All this Hannan not signing business is taking its toll on me. It keeps making me hope he's coming back.

Season tickets aren't even coming until September. That's a whole damn month. I don't know if I can make it that long, never mind that the preseason doesn't even start until after that.

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I ripped the trade when it happened, too. He's simply a fighter on skates with little real hockey ability--that's been his rep for a while, which is why his icetime in St. Louis was so limited even when he was healthy. Get somebody who can play the game and contribute with the "little things," who also can fight. Fighting is a marginal thing these days, with too many fights simply done for show, and King's a show fighter. Hendericks took King's job away because he knew when to pick his fights and why, and did a damn good job of doing it.
Yeah but you hate physical play and fighting. From the time from the old caps board this has been the case. IMO anyone who doesn't agree with this aspect of the game ..well they hate America!

Fact is that anyone who disagrees with me doesn't know what they are talking about (science has proven it...)

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The idea is that King provides back up for our Nice Guy team like Brashear did. Make the kids braver. King never got that chance. I dunno if he can be that guy but the team needs someone to be.
Exactly the idea. We do need someone to do it and the question is "was King given a fair shake to brush off the rust?". I don't believe he did.

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All this Hannan not signing business is taking its toll on me. It keeps making me hope he's coming back.
Well where would the cap space come from to sign him? The caps would probably have to trade Schultz and they are enamoured with his height and reach.

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I'd take Drury over Perreault 5 days out of the week. The other two are the first two days that Perreault is called up and actually plays well before vanishing.
I don't know. He has looked simply awful the last couple years. He's slow, doesn't finish, and just seems to plain suck. He used to be a great player. Not so much anymore. He'd be a waste of space. MP provides energy at least.


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Think a deal around Schultz to NYI could be happening? NYI fans seem to think a deal is imminent to bring in a top 4 defenseman.

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i love the "DJ King should have gotten a jersey in the playoffs" argument... instant offseason classic!

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Think a deal around Schultz to NYI could be happening? NYI fans seem to think a deal is imminent to bring in a top 4 defenseman.
No, I don't think that's happening.

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Yeah but you hate physical play and fighting. From the time from the old caps board this has been the case. IMO anyone who doesn't agree with this aspect of the game ..well they hate America! ::
Bull. Find any post by me anywhere where I say I hate physical play and fighting. I dare you.

Wanna tick me off? Put words in my mouth with sweeping generalizations.

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Potential Destinations For A. Semin

I recently read and article (http://*******************/articles/...lexander-semin) that listed 5 teams Semin might end up on. So I, a true Caps fan, created 5 trades that would get Semin out of DC. Now they may seem favored towards Washington, but he is so important to their team that they need to get a good return. And teams have showed they're willing to pay a high price for top end talent. Semin is an important part of this team as he provides secondary scoring that causes opposing teams to watch out for line 2 and not put all their focus on line 1. Therefore, as a Caps fan, this is what I'd want back from each of those 5 teams to make it worth giving him up:

Los Angeles - Semin & 3rd
Washington - Brown & Loktionov

Florida - Semin & 3rd
Washington - Booth & Gudbrandson

Toronto - Semin & 3rd
Washington - Kulemin & Colborne

Colorado - Semin
Washington - Jones & Siemens

Winnipeg - Semin & 2nd
Washington - Bogosian & Little

If Washington was to trade Semin, this is what would have to come back. And as a Caps fan who sees the true value of Semin - I'd be all for any of these trades.

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I recently read and article (http://*******************/articles/...lexander-semin) that listed 5 teams Semin might end up on. So I, a true Caps fan, created 5 trades that would get Semin out of DC. Now they may seem favored towards Washington, but he is so important to their team that they need to get a good return. And teams have showed they're willing to pay a high price for top end talent. Semin is an important part of this team as he provides secondary scoring that causes opposing teams to watch out for line 2 and not put all their focus on line 1. Therefore, as a Caps fan, this is what I'd want back from each of those 5 teams to make it worth giving him up:

Los Angeles - Semin & 3rd
Washington - Brown & Loktionov

Florida - Semin & 3rd
Washington - Booth & Gudbrandson

Toronto - Semin & 3rd
Washington - Kulemin & Colborne

Colorado - Semin
Washington - Jones & Siemens

Winnipeg - Semin & 2nd
Washington - Bogosian & Little

If Washington was to trade Semin, this is what would have to come back. And as a Caps fan who sees the true value of Semin - I'd be all for any of these trades.
You so crazy.

Except for LA, those teams are going to be fighting for a playoff spot. No way they give up anything near that for just 1 year of Semin.

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Just curious.

Green + Eakin + WSH 1st for Parise? Could use Semin's cash at the end of the year to shore up the hole left by Green, Wideman gets top 4 minutes as a puck mover with Hamrlik, unfortunately Schurskine would then be in action, I don't like the hole that it leaves short term in the Capitals' defense, but I wonder if swapping Semin for Parise as the 2nd line anchor would be worth it in the long term.

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Just curious.

Green + Eakin + WSH 1st for Parise? Could use Semin's cash at the end of the year to shore up the hole left by Green, Wideman gets top 4 minutes as a puck mover with Hamrlik, unfortunately Schurskine would then be in action, I don't like the hole that it leaves short term in the Capitals' defense, but I wonder if swapping Semin for Parise as the 2nd line anchor would be worth it in the long term.
You're serious? Absurd over-payment for Parise for a number of reasons.

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Just curious.

Green + Eakin + WSH 1st for Parise? Could use Semin's cash at the end of the year to shore up the hole left by Green, Wideman gets top 4 minutes as a puck mover with Hamrlik, unfortunately Schurskine would then be in action, I don't like the hole that it leaves short term in the Capitals' defense, but I wonder if swapping Semin for Parise as the 2nd line anchor would be worth it in the long term.
When exactly has Parise proven himself to be a better playoff performer than Semin?

And a Hamrlik-Wideman pairing getting 20+ minutes in the playoffs would be an absolute disaster. Wideman's a guy you shelter. Hamrlik's a guy who was good at sheltering people... 5 years ago.

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You so crazy.

Except for LA, those teams are going to be fighting for a playoff spot. No way they give up anything near that for just 1 year of Semin.
Exactly, those teams will be fighting for a spot, so they'll overpay to get what they think will help them clinch a playoff berth. All those trades help both teams.

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Just curious.

Green + Eakin + WSH 1st for Parise? Could use Semin's cash at the end of the year to shore up the hole left by Green, Wideman gets top 4 minutes as a puck mover with Hamrlik, unfortunately Schurskine would then be in action, I don't like the hole that it leaves short term in the Capitals' defense, but I wonder if swapping Semin for Parise as the 2nd line anchor would be worth it in the long term.
No, just no! What would make sense would be Semin + Conditional 2nd (if he doesn't resign, 3rd if he does) for Parise + Conditional 3rd (if he doesn't resign, 4th if he does)

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