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07-28-2011, 02:49 PM
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It depends, I guess. Sometimes a younger coach can inject some energy to something that may have been getting a little stale. Maybe management felt the players weren't learning much from McCutcheon, or, alternatively, that they were learning a lot from Adams. Maybe they didn't want a NHL retread. We'll have to see what happens. But I understand why Adams might be an attractive choice for them.
Right. Lindy is a hard-ass and Adams, by any indication, is a players' coach that the guys in the room are really tight with. I think it's great to have a guy like that on the staff.

To suggest that Ruff, who was chosen as an assistant for Canada's Olympic team, is too much of a control freak to hire a proven AC frankly strains credulity.

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Right. Lindy is a hard-ass and Adams, by any indication, is a players' coach that the guys in the room are really tight with. I think it's great to have a guy like that on the staff.

To suggest that Ruff, who was chosen as an assistant for Canada's Olympic team, is too much of a control freak to hire a proven AC frankly strains credulity.
Should I up the Colace?

Another way of looking at this: how would this hire (if the report is accurate) have been regarded under Golisano and Quinn? I'm pretty sure most people would have said it's the easy way out, promoting from within, Golisano is too cheap to hire someone with more experience and poor Lindy is never given the resources to prove he's elite.

Didn't Terry give Darcy and Lindy carte blanche when it came to the coaching staff? Lindy could have the best assistant available, at any price. Heck, he could have 10 more assistants.

If the Sabres "end up" with just Adams, it'll be a bit underwhelming, that's all.

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Are you serious about this?

This is an ASSISTANT COACH. Not the Pope.

He's a coach that has been reported to do a great job with the players already. Why go out and get a guy from somewhere else if you have a perfectly good candidate right here?

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Should I up the Colace?

Another way of looking at this: how would this hire (if the report is accurate) have been regarded under Golisano and Quinn? I'm pretty sure most people would have said it's the easy way out, promoting from within, Golisano is too cheap to hire someone with more experience and poor Lindy is never given the resources to prove he's elite.

Didn't Terry give Darcy and Lindy carte blanche when it came to the coaching staff? Lindy could have the best assistant available, at any price. Heck, he could have 10 more assistants.

If the Sabres "end up" with just Adams, it'll be a bit underwhelming, that's all.
There are plenty of people that wanted to run McCutcheon out of town a while ago.

So, I think many would have been happy with replacing him with a coach that has earned the spot by doing well last year as a player development coach.

I like that they have given Adams a promotion for a job well done. That's how things like this should work, IMO.

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Can he run a powerplay?
As a penalty killing specialist when he played, I am sure that he has a complete understanding of both special teams units. You have to understand what the other team is trying to do to prevent it when killing penalites. If he is the tactician that Buffaloed says, then he should be able to help with both units.

I think it is a good hire to close the generational gap.

While this might not be of true importance as far as team success, I like the continued use of local ties angle too. Local kids being drafted, being able to talk to a local kid coach who played in the bigs. Boston always had tremednous pride in their local players when I lived there. (Bob Sweeney, Andy Brickley, Steve Heintz, Craig Janney, Hal Gill, Ted Donato, Don Sweeney etc...)

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There are plenty of people that wanted to run McCutcheon out of town a while ago.

So, I think many would have been happy with replacing him with a coach that has earned the spot by doing well last year as a player development coach.

I like that they have given Adams a promotion for a job well done. That's how things like this should work, IMO.
Isn't it nice to have a organization that does this?

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Isn't it nice to have a organization that does this?
I like that the organization now has a larger coaching staff that enables a move like this.

If the staff was just Lindy, 2 assts, goalie coach, and a video asst or two, then this doesn't happen.

But, having player development coaches on staff allowed them to take this path.

It will be interesting to see who replaces Adams as the forward player skills coach.

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I like the singing a lot. Ruff is a great coach and very capable at implementing and tailoring systems but also one who really goes with this gut. As someone put it earlier, Adams seems very cerebral and he has a very good relationship with the players he's worked with. A great compliment. I hope they're able to replace his previous responsibilities if he does not still hold them and can do more to build the team's skill coaching. You can't overestimate the value a good skill coach can have on the right player, whether provided by the team or privately.

As to why it took so long, I reckon they had him at the top of the board but felt they could take the time to look around the hockey world for other candidates as he was already secured on the staff.

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I like the singing a lot. Ruff is a great coach and very capable at implementing and tailoring systems but also one who really goes with this gut. As someone put it earlier, Adams seems very cerebral and he has a very good relationship with the players he's worked with. A great compliment. I hope they're able to replace his previous responsibilities if he does not still hold them and can do more to build the team's skill coaching. You can't overestimate the value a good skill coach can have on the right player, whether provided by the team or privately.

As to why it took so long, I reckon they had him at the top of the board but felt they could take the time to look around the hockey world for other candidates as he was already secured on the staff.
As of today, it's still just an unconfirmed rumor.....

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WGR's Paul Hamilton has learned from a source that the Buffalo Sabres will name Kevyn Adams the new associate coach to Lindy Ruff on Wednesday.

Adams will replace Brian McCutheon, whom the Sabres released this off-season.
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So "assistant" not "associate?" It wouldn't make sense that Adams would be promoted from player development coach to associate over Patrick.

I guess it still lends credence to the idea that Foligno could be brought in as associate coach.

Good for Adams.

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So "assistant" not "associate?" It wouldn't make sense that Adams would be promoted from player development coach to associate over Patrick.

I guess it still lends credence to the idea that Foligno could be brought in as associate coach.

Good for Adams.
I'll go out on a limb and say this is where Lindy says he likes his coaching staff and he goes on vacation.

@JoeBuffaloWins had this story a week ago. Another scoop. Good for him.

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So "assistant" not "associate?" It wouldn't make sense that Adams would be promoted from player development coach to associate over Patrick.
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Clarence native Kevyn Adams, will be named the Buffalo Sabres associate coach today, NHL sources confirmed to The Buffalo News Tuesday night.
http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/sa...icle510268.ece

Yet, the WGR link posted above has Hamilton indicating it's an "assistant" coach position.

Not sure if it really matters much which official title it is....

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http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/sa...icle510268.ece

Yet, the WGR link posted above has Hamilton indicating it's an "assistant" coach position.

Not sure if it really matters much which official title it is....
Well, associate professors are tenured and assistant professors aren't. I take "associate" as a more senior position, which is why I expressed surprise that Adams would be promoted over Patrick.

The Sabres.com story says assistant coach, which makes more sense. I'm not surprised TBN or Hamilton wouldn't grasp the difference.

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So "assistant" not "associate?" It wouldn't make sense that Adams would be promoted from player development coach to associate over Patrick.

I guess it still lends credence to the idea that Foligno could be brought in as associate coach.
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Well, associate professors are tenured and assistant professors aren't. I take "associate" as a more senior position, which is why I expressed surprise that Adams would be promoted over Patrick.

The Sabres.com story says assistant coach, which makes more sense. I'm not surprised TBN or Hamilton wouldn't grasp the difference.
If Foligno comes on board, the title / role would make sense since his head coaching experience (5 years in AHL + 6 years in OHL + 1 year as assistant in NHL) trumps Patrick's experience of 5 years in NHL as an assistant.

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If Foligno comes on board, the title / role would make sense since his head coaching experience (5 years in AHL + 6 years in OHL + 1 year as assistant in NHL) trumps Patrick's experience of 5 years in NHL as an assistant.
Just to add to that, Mike was an assistant with Toronto at the end of '95-'96, having started the year as Watts' ass't and then taking over as head coach of the baby Leafs, then was an assistant in Colorado in '97-98 with Cloutier under Marc Crawford before moving to be the head man in Hershey. He's got 3.5 years as an NHL assistant and 5.5 as an AHL head coach.

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The News article now states "assistant."

I keep staring at the calendar, trying to will it to turn to October 1. I am no Uri Geller.

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Lindy's Interview regarding Kevyn Adams from today


edit: duties of Adams:

- continue to develop youth
- work with Goose and the centers on draws
- special teams, not specifically assigned to any coach
- neither him nor Patrick will solely handle special teams
- come to the table with ideas (not all may work)

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Lindy's Interview regarding Kevyn Adams from today


edit: duties of Adams:

- continue to develop youth
- work with Goose and the centers on draws
- special teams, not specifically assigned to any coach
- neither him nor Patrick will solely handle special teams
- come to the table with ideas (not all may work)
I'm sure Adams' time in Carolina under Laviolette - who preaches a similar puck-possession/pressure style as Ruff - will (hopefully) be of influence to the offense.

Someone needs to come up with a different tactic for the power play units on their zone entries beyond that low-percentage, momentum-killing drop pass play that Ruff's been borrowing from Detroit the last 2 years....

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I'm sure Adams' time in Carolina under Laviolette - who preaches a similar puck-possession/pressure style as Ruff - will (hopefully) be of influence to the offense.

Someone needs to come up with a different tactic for the power play units on their zone entries beyond that low-percentage, momentum-killing drop pass play that Ruff's been borrowing from Detroit the last 2 years....
I ****ing CRINGE at that ****. I HATE IT.

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Well, associate professors are tenured and assistant professors aren't. I take "associate" as a more senior position, which is why I expressed surprise that Adams would be promoted over Patrick.
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So "assistant" not "associate?" It wouldn't make sense that Adams would be promoted from player development coach to associate over Patrick.

I guess it still lends credence to the idea that Foligno could be brought in as associate coach.

Good for Adams.
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#Sabres Ruff said the team could still add another assistant, would more or less be Kevyn Adams' old dev role. #Buffalo

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That sounds like it'd be a demotion for Foligno to consider and that one of the recently retired guys - McKee or Numminen - might be instead asked, since each were fond of Ruff and the city; expressed interest in getting into a coaching role; and obviously would need some tutoring in a less involved role.

Of course, the longer Grier goes without finding an NHL team willing to let him play another season, the more I hope he retires and chooses to stay with the Sabres in exactly that kind of players-coach role.

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I ****ing CRINGE at that ****. I HATE IT.
What Sabres fan doesn't?

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ADAMS THRILLED FOR NEW ROLE
Wednesday, 08.03.2011 / 4:17 PM / Features
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Lindy Ruff spoke to more than 30 candidates in his search for an Assistant Coach. Whether it was unemployed head coaches or a current assistant looking to change his address, Ruff talked to them all. But in the end, Ruff had to look no further than his own staff. Kevyn Adams was introduced to the media today as Ruffs new assistant, and the head coach said it came down to one simple intangible.

I talked to a lot of people. I covered a broad scope of coaches that were looking for jobs, explained Ruff, the NHLs longest tenured head coach. I think what Kevyn had that trumped everything is his great relationship with our players. Hes eager, hes anxious and hes got some great ideas. Hes worked hard at the position he was at. Hes won a Stanley Cup, and he knows what it takes to win. I like that enthusiasm.
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Hes spent hours with the players, and developed great relationships with them, explained Ruff. I think the communication part with the players is vital. Kevyn has built a great rapport with the players and I think the players have a lot of respect for him. He knows what hes teaching. And I dont think you can teach the experience of winning a Cup, of what it takes and how hard of work it is.
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The one thing that I have is there was a passion in me from the time I was four or five years old being a Sabres fan. Then you lose that when you playing because all you want to do is win, wherever you are. When Darcy and Lindy called me a couple of years ago and this first opportunity came, I was so eager to get started and so excited about it, and its built from there. This next step is something I cant wait to wrap my arms around and go after.
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One of the fortunate parts of getting traded as many times as I did when I played was that I played for a lot of different coaches and assistant coaches. You pick little parts of that as you go along, you file it away, and it molds to where I am today. One of things I realized as a player was how important the communication is with a coaching staff. The ability to have someone to talk to that, where youre not always going to like what you hear, but you know youre going to get honesty from. I knew as a player how important that was, and thats something Ive tried to do here.
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Rather than divide the workload among his coaching staff, Ruff believes that Buffalos special teams success will derive from working as a collective unit.

Kevyn is going to work with the forwards, and be involved in the special teams, and continue the development work with the players. Ive got some different thoughts on our special teams, and Id like to utilize all three coaches. I think thats how you develop, Ruff explains. Kevyn may be a voice in one or the other, and Ive talked to him about it. I dont think solely do I want either coach just to run either (the power play or penalty kill).
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Ruff may not be done with adding coaches to the Sabres staff. Hed like to fill the development coach void left by Adams, and wouldnt rule out adding another assistant to the mix.

Im still in the process of evaluating. There are teams that have gone to three assistant coaches. Im going to weigh that still, and see where it all falls out by the time camp starts.
http://sabres.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=585706

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