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07-29-2011, 06:41 AM
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oilers give hemsky and omark for semin
I'm sure the would. The Caps on the other hand... well let's just say GMGM would die of suffocation due to laughing too hard.

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07-29-2011, 08:00 AM
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Boston respectfully declines.

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How about a modification:

To Washington:
Krejci

To Boston:
Semin
Washington's 1st round pick in 2012 (not Colorado's pick)
A mid-level prospect (Galiev)

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07-29-2011, 09:42 AM
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Semin for 25 games and then he signs somewhere else... no way


The ever popular "Semin will bolt" BS....

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07-29-2011, 09:46 AM
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How about a modification:

To Washington:
Krejci

To Boston:
Semin
Washington's 1st round pick in 2012 (not Colorado's pick)
A mid-level prospect (Galiev)
Nyet.

You could include the COL 1st instead and I still don't think the B's would do it. It's not about value, it's about Krejci being a player the Bruins are building around.

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07-29-2011, 09:47 AM
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This makes little sense for Washington. Semin can carry the 2nd line alone most nights, not sure the same would be said of Krejci...

Unless we've got someone skilled to insert at wing, this creates a bigger hole than it fills.

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07-29-2011, 09:48 AM
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Don't want Semin. Only player from the Capitals I want is untouchable.

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07-29-2011, 09:52 AM
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How about a modification:

To Washington:
Krejci

To Boston:
Semin
Washington's 1st round pick in 2012 (not Colorado's pick)
A mid-level prospect (Galiev)
That ensures both sides say no. As others have stated, the bruins won't tinker anymore than they have to and there is no way the CAPS are giving up that much for that player.

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07-29-2011, 10:11 AM
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How about a modification:

To Washington:
Krejci

To Boston:
Semin
Washington's 1st round pick in 2012 (not Colorado's pick)
A mid-level prospect (Galiev)
If anything, the Bruins would have to add.

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07-29-2011, 12:02 PM
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If anything, the Bruins would have to add.
In terms of value, yes, but I get the feeling Bruins fans will like to keep Krejci, barring an overpayment?

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07-29-2011, 12:09 PM
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Both teams would like Krejci and Semin playing together. The general framework of this trade does not allow for that. At best, this ends up as a lateral move for either team.

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07-29-2011, 12:52 PM
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first of all neither of these teams takes a major roster player OFF the roster at the trade deadline. wont happen.

second. the ONLY caps player you would want is untouchable? ONLY? the caps are 8 and 22 junk players? after a while the caps bash just is laughable.

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07-29-2011, 02:23 PM
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first of all neither of these teams takes a major roster player OFF the roster at the trade deadline. wont happen.

second. the ONLY caps player you would want is untouchable? ONLY? the caps are 8 and 22 junk players? after a while the caps bash just is laughable.
Only player I'd want too is AO. Maybe Alzner or Carlson. Maaaaybbeee Wideman back, but that's highly doubtful


The end.

And yeah... no. Krejci as a RFA > Semin as a UFA in my mind. And yes, I definitely think Semin wouldn't return to the Bruins the next season anyways. So then Krejci for 25 games + playoffs of Semin; no thanks, not a chance.

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07-29-2011, 04:10 PM
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It's funny how one Cup makes fans believe their team can't be made better....

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It's funny how one Cup makes fans believe their team can't be made better....
No one has been saying that, at least not me. Krejci lead the league in playoff scoring and I know Semin is a good goal scorer but there really isn't a need for him with Seguin possibly breaking out this year and I'd rather have Krejci for his nice cap hit.

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07-29-2011, 05:18 PM
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It's funny how one Cup makes fans believe their team can't be made better....
There is always room for improvement, and the Bruins are no exception. But if teams are looking for a value deal Boston is not a good candidate as they are in a postion of strength having just won the stanley cup Boston isn't motivated to change it's core and it has capspace and highend prospects.

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07-29-2011, 05:42 PM
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first of all neither of these teams takes a major roster player OFF the roster at the trade deadline. wont happen.

second. the ONLY caps player you would want is untouchable? ONLY? the caps are 8 and 22 junk players? after a while the caps bash just is laughable.
I'd add Carlson, Alzner, Laich, and Knuble (for veteran reasons, he'd fit nicely on the 3rd line - replacing Recchi) to that list, but beyond that, I don't think there is anyone else on the Caps that would fit the Bruins style of play (physical, grinding, and overall two-way play), or plan going forward in the future (as in age, contract length / cap hit, and organizational depth all play a factor). The Bruins are stacked at the Junior & AHL level with guys that could be on the roster of many NHL teams this upcoming season, however, the Bruins depth chart is full and there is no room for them. I wouldn't take the poster you quoted as a "Caps bash," more of a whole situational approach and credit to Harvard for the team he has built at all levels of the organization.

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It's funny how one Cup makes fans believe their team can't be made better....
No one here, in this thread, has said this. Anyone with half a brain and knowledge of the sport knows a lot of luck played a critical role in the Bruins' Cup run. One bad bounce in OT of game 7 against the Canadiens, or if Crosby & Malkin were both healthy for the entire season, I have a feeling there would be a whole other situation going on in Boston (who's the new coach?, Peverley & Kelly still suck and they need to be traded, Thomas can't steal a game in the playoffs to save his life, good job trading off your mid-round 1st round pick & potential future 2nd-3rd line power forward center to the Leafs for Kaberle - you're fired etc).

Krejci is a player the Bruins are building around, is a RFA at the end of the year, is the central pivot on the Bruins first line (which if he were dealt, would leave a glaring hole on that line), is overall a very good two-way player who will hit when he needs to, and was the playoffs leading scorer. Semin on the other hand holds a $6 million cap hit, is UFA at the end of the year, is known to float which completely goes against the Bruins team philosophy and system (Phil Kessel comes to mind - Semin is much better than him though), and has been known to not show up for big games. Add all that to a possible KHL / Russian factor with Semin if he doesn't get paid (as reports have documented over the past 3 years during contract talks) and you have no reason to make this deal, and better yet for your sake, you better not make this deal (and right before the playoffs too?). I'm not saying Semin isn't a good player, he's an offensive dynamo that is stuck behind AO on the depth chart, and would be the #1 left winger and point getter on most teams in the NHL. I would love to have a skilled player of Semin's caliber on the Bruins, he would undoubtedly make the Bruins a better team (without subtracting Krejci or any of the other Bruins' core - and no, I'm not saying that he could be had for scraps or without any of the Bruins core, I'm simply trying to say he would make the Bruins better), but absolutely not at the cost of Krejci.


Furthermore, this whole deal hinges upon Seguin turning into the Bruins #1 or #2 center, most likely #1 because of Bergeron's chemistry with Marchand (you wouldn't want to break up a good thing, and you would be doing just that by putting him between Lucic & Horton instead of Marchand) & his Selke-caliber play (which of course makes him the ideal second line center). To me, Seguin needs a lot more of development time to turn into that #1 center that his potential has him targeted as (potential, not guaranteed, Leafs fans ). He needs to continue to work on and improve his defensive play (which has grown leaps and bounds since his arrival in Boston), he needs to learn to slow the game down in the offensive zone while also playing at the NHL speed, and lastly he needs to learn how and demonstrate that he is consistently capable of playing against another team's top line and defenders. Most of which, he needs to continue to grow, improve, mature into, and get more seasoning in the NHL to learn & attain.


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07-29-2011, 05:49 PM
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Only player I'd want too is AO. Maybe Alzner or Carlson. Maaaaybbeee Wideman back, but that's highly doubtful.
really...this is ridiculous. maybe alzner or carlson...maybe, backstrom...no? really?
lets just start there.

its not about how the b's are perfect as much as it is about how the caps suck compared to them at every position. thats a hoot.

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07-29-2011, 08:20 PM
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really...this is ridiculous. maybe alzner or carlson...maybe, backstrom...no? really?
lets just start there.

its not about how the b's are perfect as much as it is about how the caps suck compared to them at every position. thats a hoot.
Huh? It's the truth... the players I mentioned are the only Caps I'd want on the Bruins. Add Laich and Knuble as another poster mentioned too for vet depth.

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How about Green for Bergeron?

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How about Green for Bergeron?
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how about green for thornton?

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ITT: Bruins fans looking like idiots by repeatedly saying they wouldn't want Backstrom on their team.

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07-30-2011, 03:18 AM
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How about a modification:

To Washington:
Krejci

To Boston:
Semin
Washington's 1st round pick in 2012 (not Colorado's pick)
A mid-level prospect (Galiev)
Umm, no?

The idea of trading Semin a month before the playoffs for anyone is ridiculous. I don't care who it's for. The idea of throwing in a very valuable pick and good prospect is just .

Semin isn't going anywhere. I vented by frustration the week between the Draft and FA bc I figured that's when it'd happen.

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