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07-28-2011, 11:43 AM
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He was not drafted out of the CHL so he would be eligible to play in the AHL without being 20... Sort of like if a European kid comes over. With that said, DO NOT rush the kid. He played in the USHL last year so I'd doubt he'd be ready for the AHL. Give him the year in the CHL, then you have every option in 12-13..
Got it. Thanks. Agree with waiting.

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07-28-2011, 11:46 AM
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What makes you think that?
Just the way it is. Where he was drafted, players tend not to get much bonus money. The higher the pick, the more bonus money (which is why top draft picks have 3+M cap hits). It's a good thing that he won't get those bonuses.

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Good deal for JT. He is focused on making the NHL. I just hope he doesnt put himself in a position to fail like Grachev

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Good deal for JT. He is focused on making the NHL. I just hope he doesnt put himself in a position to fail like Grachev
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07-28-2011, 12:18 PM
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If Miller is playing really well in Plymouth and the Whale wants to call him up, is it the same 10-game rule like the NHL? If we call him up to the Whale, does the ELC kick in right away game 1, or does he have to play 10 games?

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Great news. We'll probably see him in Hartford next year.

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07-28-2011, 12:37 PM
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If Miller is playing really well in Plymouth and the Whale wants to call him up, is it the same 10-game rule like the NHL? If we call him up to the Whale, does the ELC kick in right away game 1, or does he have to play 10 games?
Once the Rangers assign Miller to Plymouth,they can't not recall him until Plymouth's season is over.

18 and 19 year olds lose a year off their ELC when they play 10 NHL games.

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15th pick in the draft should receive $300,000-$400,000 of performance bonus money. Not double his compensation with salary and performance bonuses. Miller probably has some bonus performance money. Standard ELC.

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Once the Rangers assign Miller to Plymouth,they can't not recall him until Plymouth's season is over.

18 and 19 year olds lose a year off their ELC when they play 10 NHL games.
Oh that's surprising. So a player can start with the Rangers/Whale and then get demoted to the OHL, but if he starts in the OHL, he can't be promoted to the NHL/AHL? Sounds stupid to me, but ok.

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07-28-2011, 12:59 PM
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Oh that's surprising. So a player can start with the Rangers/Whale and then get demoted to the OHL, but if he starts in the OHL, he can't be promoted to the NHL/AHL? Sounds stupid to me, but ok.
If Miller gets assigned to Plymouth,he can't be recalled until Plymouth is finished playing. Doesn't matter if Miller begins the season with the Rangers/Whale or is assigned to Plymouth at the end of training camp.

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Looking at some of the signed 2011 first picks. Brodin @#10 got $500,000 in bonuses. Calgary gave Baertschi at #13 got $531,250 in bonuses. Feaster is so stupid. Rangers probably gave a little more than previous 1st round picks got.

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07-28-2011, 03:00 PM
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Love how Cerny and Spector had no idea this was the case this morning. I can't say what was more surprising, them not knowing, or Andrew Gross knowing that Miller can be AHL eligible.

The Rangers beat these days... *sigh*
its really annoying how they answer questions on twitter without knowing. its unrealistic to expect them to know everything and every rule. but if you don't know don't just make it up. take 5 minutes to google the answer. its great to get immediate feedback but fans would rather wait 15 minutes to get accurate info. it really kills credibility

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07-28-2011, 03:01 PM
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If Miller is playing really well in Plymouth and the Whale wants to call him up, is it the same 10-game rule like the NHL? If we call him up to the Whale, does the ELC kick in right away game 1, or does he have to play 10 games?
he can't be called up midseason. once he is assigned to plymouth then he is there until their season is over.

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he can't be called up midseason. once he is assigned to plymouth then he is there until their season is over.
I believe he can be re-called on an emergency basis. The Kings did it with Schenn a couple of years ago.

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I believe he can be re-called on an emergency basis. The Kings did it with Schenn a couple of years ago.
yeah thats the only exception to call him up to the nhl

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07-28-2011, 05:22 PM
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Good for him. The one thing I get from millers actions is an all business attitude, he knows he wants to turn pro asap, has a timeline for himself and is getting it done.

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07-28-2011, 06:59 PM
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I like JT's approach, from the way he sounds, I'd say we've got a hockey player with the mindset of an all pro line backer. I haven't seen him play outside of a few clips, but I think once traverse city starts he'll definitely get the hype train rolling. He's got a pro's body already and he can make plays with the puck.

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If Miller is playing really well in Plymouth and the Whale wants to call him up, is it the same 10-game rule like the NHL? If we call him up to the Whale, does the ELC kick in right away game 1, or does he have to play 10 games?
Pump the brakes buddy. Everyone wants to rush these guys. It def stalled Grachev. I believe it hurt DZ, but that's just my opinion. At least one year in the CHL, at least one year in Hartford. Who are our best home-grown guys? Dubinsky, Callahan, Anisimov? Common thing here? All grew as players and got to NY when they were ready. Staal jumped after one year, but that was more exception, then rule. Too many people (not you, just venting) feel this is a video game. The further they go at a young age furthers there overall number. Many guys need to build there bodies, and there game. Not everyone is Sid Crosby...

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My cousin seen this kid play and said hes the real deal....how long before he sees the NHL???

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My cousin seen this kid play and said hes the real deal....how long before he sees the NHL???
Not too many have seen a lot of him, and are qualified to say. My opinion would be 2-4 years.

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My cousin seen this kid play and said hes the real deal....how long before he sees the NHL???
People were talking about him like even if he went to college it'd be one year and then turn pro, but even that doesn't mean NHL for sure.

Hard to say but I think at least a couple of years

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this kid is a good looking power prospect. hes no where near ready though.

i have read some things on local minny boards that indicate his offensive upside may be some what limited. his skating needs work as well. hes a prototypical power forward type player with decent hands.

hes a horse and a half though for sure. projects out to play somewhere near the 6'2 + 210 range.

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Reserve list. Page 7-8 in the CBA

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"Reserve List" means the list of all Players to whom a Club has rights
including all Unsigned Draft Choices, all Players signed to an SPC (whether or not
currently playing in the NHL), and all Players who have signed an SPC but who have
subsequently been returned to Juniors. A Club may have on its Reserve List, at any one
time, not more than 90 Players, which shall include the following:

(a) Not more than 50 Players signed to an SPC and not less than 24 Players
and 3 goalkeepers under an SPC. Age 18 and age 19 Players who were returned to
Juniors, and who have not played 11 NHL Games in one season, shall be exempt from
inclusion in the 50 Player limit.


Any Club violating this provision shall be liable to loss of draft choices as
determined by the Commissioner.

(b) Unsigned Draft Choices.
The SPCs of McIlrath,Miller and Thomas will not count against the 50 SPC limit if they are returned to their CHL teams and don't play 11 NHL games next season.

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