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08-09-2004, 07:45 PM
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Mtl-Nyr proposal

Hugh Jessiman for Ribs, Bulis and a 2nd. thougths? too much, not enough
remember this is a proposal so i could be way off. And for those who's wondering, i'd give Thomas Pleckanek or Chris Higgins or Radek Bonk(logical choice) a chance to center the 2nd line.

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Jessiman doesn't have nearly that value.

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who is Jessiman....Never heard of this guy. You think we're gonna give you our best scorer, a good 2 way forward and a second pick for this guy.

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Habs are on the verge of becoming a perennial contender out of the East...and you want to give up a young 70-point pivot, a key player (albeit one who is smallish and made an @$$ out of himself with his immature antics in the playoffs)....for a prospect? And hand the #2 center spot to another unproven player? (Bonk was acquired to add depth and size; that would be immediately diminished should you move Robeiro.)

That's called: looking a great opportunity to win near-term in the eye...and deconstructing it in a heartbeat.


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Hugh Jessiman for Ribs, Bulis and a 2nd. thougths? too much, not enough
remember this is a proposal so i could be way off. And for those who's wondering, i'd give Thomas Pleckanek or Chris Higgins or Radek Bonk(logical choice) a chance to center the 2nd line.
Jessiman wasn't even able to get a ppg this past season in the NCAA. Just a horrible proposal. I'd be hardpressed to give up much more than the 2nd for him, let alone add the other two guys.

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I wouldn't even trade Ribeiro for him. A 65 pts guy who is still young(24) while Jessiman didn't do anything yet.

And then, logical reasons this trade doesn't make sense:

1-We don't need anymore prospect
2-Bonk was acquired to centre 3rd line according to Gainey and Julien
3-Why Plekanec,Higgins?!? You gonna leave urself with them ..what if they start sucking? then making the playoffs is the only goal for the Habs.
4-Ribeiro isn't old so we don't need to trade him
5-Ribeiro isn't taking a lot of money so we don't need to trade him
6-Bulis is a solid 2 way player, not a lot of money, still in his prime.

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Call me a homer if you must, but everyone underrates Jessiman because he is a Ranger prospect. That being said, he is definitely not worth Ribiero, Bulis and a 2nd, but he is definitely worth more than a second alone. The kid is practically by himself at Dartmouth so opposing defenses simply key on him with double and triple teams. He still managed to be a ppg player in spite of all of that this past season, and he has been working like an animal all summer in anticipation of turning pro this year. It is going to be awesome watching Hugh prove all the naysayers wrong.

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For once it's a proposal really lopsided on the habs side, it makes no sence for the habs, Ribs has just broken out as a good 60-70 point guy, Bulis is a good young 3rd liner, plus a 2nd, jessimen is a good prospect but you can't give up somthing like that for a guy who hasn't played a game in the nhl yet.

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The kid is practically by himself at Dartmouth so opposing defenses simply key on him with double and triple teams.
If he's so alone, why was he not even his team's leading scorer? You talk as if he's in death valley for hockey players, when in fact he's on a decent team that finished above 500.

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If he's so alone, why was he not even his team's leading scorer? You talk as if he's in death valley for hockey players, when in fact he's on a decent team that finished above 500.


They stand a very good chance of winning the ECAC if Jessiman returns. Lee Stempinack and Grant Lewis both had big seasons. Plus they added some impressive Freshman talent in J T Wyman and Nick Johnson.

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Hum.. What about.. No?...

Fisrt of all... Let's say that Gainey will NEVER trade Mike Ribeiro.. He's the most popular player in Montreal (Remeber Saku vs Ribs, 80% wanted to trade Saku before Ribs.. if so..) And he reach the 65 pts plateau.. He has a goos chemestry with Ryder.. So NO, he will not trade Ribs..

Bulis is the most underatted player in Montreal.. He's the top guy in PK, and he brings a lot of speed... If only he could score in 50% of his scoring opportunities.. he can reach the 20g/50pts... This year with Bonk maybe

I don't think Gainey would trade Bulis and a 2rd for him...

What "established" player in the Nhl would you give for Bulis..? Korolyuk? Nilson?

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How about Chipchura for a 2nd, Poti and Jagr?


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How about Chipchura for a 2nd, Poti and Jagr?

Is Jagr supposed to be Ribeiro or Bulis?

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Jagr is your team's leading point getter last year. Poti is a good avg aged guy who isn't quite supposed to be one of your top players.

Jagr mighta been a bad equivalent to Ribeiro but I didn't have many "current established NHL Rags who had a good season" to play with here... sorry.


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Jagr mighta been a bad equivalent to Ribeiro but I didn't have many "current established NHL Rags who had a good season" to play with here... sorry.
You're right. That's precisely why the Rangers make poor trading partners in just about EVERY proposal. At the moment, I couldn't be happier to be honest.

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Originally Posted by Marcel the great!
Hugh Jessiman for Ribs, Bulis and a 2nd. thougths? too much, not enough
remember this is a proposal so i could be way off. And for those who's wondering, i'd give Thomas Pleckanek or Chris Higgins or Radek Bonk(logical choice) a chance to center the 2nd line.


I got one thing to say....

were you on drugs when you wrote that? :bonk:

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I got one thing to say....

were you on drugs when you wrote that? :bonk:
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Riberio still plays? I saw him on broadway the other day...
ZING!!!
oh snap




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Originally Posted by Marcel the great!
Hugh Jessiman for Ribs, Bulis and a 2nd. thougths? too much, not enough
remember this is a proposal so i could be way off. And for those who's wondering, i'd give Thomas Pleckanek or Chris Higgins or Radek Bonk(logical choice) a chance to center the 2nd line.
as a nyr fan i would do it, i think jessiman will be a flop anyway

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If he's so alone, why was he not even his team's leading scorer? You talk as if he's in death valley for hockey players, when in fact he's on a decent team that finished above 500.
He wasn't the leading scorer because he was being tripple teamed for most of the games.

Thats another reason they were good - the fact that it took so much man power to stop Hugh.

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For once it's a proposal really lopsided on the habs side, it makes no sence for the habs, Ribs has just broken out as a good 60-70 point guy, Bulis is a good young 3rd liner, plus a 2nd, jessimen is a good prospect but you can't give up somthing like that for a guy who hasn't played a game in the nhl yet.
i know i give too much but do i really have a choice here on hfboards, if it's a little on the habs side we're called the worst fans ever! I just want a big center prospect with offensive potential, we have Chipchura but he aint gonna have more than 35-40 points a year, how about you guys give me proposals for a big center prospect

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He wasn't the leading scorer because he was being tripple teamed for most of the games.

Thats another reason they were good - the fact that it took so much man power to stop Hugh.
Interesting theory. I've seen alot of players who are the main focus of the other team and they have produced a hell of alot more than Jessiman and have led their team's in scoring. I'll grant you, he's a nice prospect, with great size, but I wouldn't give up much more than a 2nd for him. A second and a mid level prospect or a 3rd rounder would be it.

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who is Jessiman....Never heard of this guy. You think we're gonna give you our best scorer, a good 2 way forward and a second pick for this guy.
12th Overall Draft Pick in 2003, and you've never heard of him? Come on, we're not naming a guy picked in the middle of the 1st round in 1961 that never made a name for himself...come on.

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Riberio still plays? I saw him on broadway the other day...
ZING!!!
oh snap




im going to sleep

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