I actually don't mind this last action by the Kings. It's something they should have done from the beginning. If you feel like you have a legit issue then file a grievance. My issue was entirely from the almost non-stop crying for seemingly weeks after the trade.
I might be the only one that doesn't understand the situation (because I thought Colin Frasier would be a buy out).
The second part I don't understand IS. He has a injury that will take (what it sounds from today) 2 weeks to heal = not much of a big deal, he can still get ready for training camp.
The third part I don't understand is. If you are acquiring a player (since he new about Brules injury status) that if it was your second time around you would have done your due diligence and checked out and the same circumstances (in terms of the 24hour waiting period) you would have got your answer right there.
I guess my whole point is your getting an injured player or at least coming off injury (usually some amount of recovery) you don't take no precautions, and then want every exacting measure to fix up the problem.
As I see it (beyond Oilers bias) I would be saying when Frasier is ready; if its that 2 week period - kings not awarded with anything
-- if it needs more time than the 2 weeks then you can take a *Conditional draft pick (and that's in the worst circumstance).
*Conditional draft (depending on how many games Frasier plays; not counting benching or any situation that excludes health from being the reason for not playing.
Hall, Eberle and Paajarvi have their ELC's expire in 2 years. Of those only Hall or Eberle would be realistic OS targets. The oilers will have more than enough cap space to match any offer presented. And if a team like the Kings who have drafted really high and often in the lottery over the last 7 years are willing to offer up 4 1st round picks maybe we take the picks.
You think the Kings will be drafting high in te next coupe od years ?
And you wont be getting 4 first for any of those players
Acctually I would OS MSP, wanted him from draft day
Bettman was in Edmonton helping rally to get us a new arena.. Maybe he'll be thinking a bit more about not showing us in a bad light, especially since Tambellini hasn't been going to the media and making a big scene of things. One can hope anyways..
Where was Bettman when Burke was constantly bad-mouthing Lowe and the Oilers? He didn't intervene until Lowe said something.
__________________ "He just ate up Robyn Regehr for dinner, a spectacular play by Hemsky, and Robyn Regehr has got doo doo all over his face" - Rod Phillips call on Hemsky's goal vs the Flames
They're using the LAtimes reporter as their source, like I said until I hear it from the NHL offices anything I hear about the matter will be considered as part of DL silly games. Nobody has heard anything about this circus other then from DL or the LAtimes reporter. Name one report that hasn't used Helene Elliott and her pillow talk as a source.
You think the Kings will be drafting high in te next coupe od years ?
And you wont be getting 4 first for any of those players
Acctually I would OS MSP, wanted him from draft day
You seriously think that an offer sheet that would make Hall sign it and the Oilers not match would be that low? And there's no point even talking about Eberle. He flat out won't leave Edmonton
They're using the LAtimes reporter as their source, like I said until I hear it from the NHL offices anything I hear about the matter will be considered as part of DL silly games. Nobody has heard anything about this circus other then from DL or the LAtimes reporter. Name one report that hasn't used Helene Elliott and her pillow talk as a source.
Helene Elliott is a Hall of Fame reporter. She's not an Eklund here. She's been all over this from the start. Calling it 'pillow talk' is pretty ridiculous.
Well, it's pretty clear she gets all of her info directly from DL, so it's not like anyone can really question her reliability.
That being said, I can't wait till this garbage is over with. You want a 6th round pick instead of a 7th? You want us to take Fraser back? Just get it done so we don't have to talk about this anymore.
They're using the LAtimes reporter as their source, like I said until I hear it from the NHL offices anything I hear about the matter will be considered as part of DL silly games. Nobody has heard anything about this circus other then from DL or the LAtimes reporter. Name one report that hasn't used Helene Elliott and her pillow talk as a source.
I dont believe they divulged who their source/sources were.
Oilers have been notoriously quiet regarding this, which leads me to believe they either have 100% proof of no wrong doing or they're hiding something.
Either way, I think it will be a fairly easy choice for Bettman or delegate.
Anyone have any prevous compensations for team wrong doings? All I can recall are violations where the league takes away a draft pick but not any that award draft picks to another team. I imagine if the Oil are in the wrong it would cost them a 3-5th rounder.
Even if the Kings "win" or whatever, I can't imagine you guys losing too much since the Kings weren't asking for much to begin with. Acc to the LA Times the only thing the Kings ultimately wanted was for the Oilers to take Fraser back until he was deemed healthy.
In pretty much every law or rules code ever, the penalty for something is greater than the advantage you would have gotten from the infraction if you had gotten away with it.
If the penalty for shoplifting was only "pay sticker price and keep the item", no one would be deterred.
Am I the only one worried that Bettman's compensation package for the kings may include our 1st? I mean it probably won't happen but I do think it's in the realm of possibilty.
Am I the only one worried that Bettman's compensation package for the kings may include our 1st? I mean it probably won't happen but I do think it's in the realm of possibilty.
Well, if it did, it may be a blessing in disguise in a sick kind of way. If Tambellini was in the wrong that badly, and we did lose our first, it would surely mean he would get punted down the highway.
If the compensation was lets say a fourth or even a third rounder, then he may be allowed to continue cocking up things for us and continue these yearly embarrassments.
Irregardless, if this does fall on Tambellini's head, then I hope both him and Lowe are finished here for good.
Khabibulin, Heatley, Souray, and now this in a span of three years is just too many examples of incompetence and too many chances given to carry on with the same crew of idiots at the helm.
Of course it could. Bettman has full authority to do just that or whatever else he decides to do and we cant do **** all about it. His decision is binding. And it cannot be appealed. So be ready for anything, and expect nothing.
Well, if it did, it may be a blessing in disguise in a sick kind of way. If Tambellini was in the wrong that badly, and we did lose our first, it would surely mean he would get punted down the highway.
If the compensation was lets say a fourth or even a third rounder, then he may be allowed to continue cocking up things for us and continue these yearly embarrassments.
Irregardless, if this does fall on Tambellini's head, then I hope both him and Lowe are finished here for good.
Khabibulin, Heatley, Souray, and now this in a span of three years is just too many examples of incompetence and too many chances given to carry on with the same crew of idiots at the helm.
And you believe the crap Souray said over what the Oilers say. How typical. Souray was wrong and in no way should a player get away with thrashing management the way Souray did. The NHL should have fined that clown for thrashing the Oilers organization.
And you believe the crap Souray said over what the Oilers say. How typical. Souray was wrong and in no way should a player get away with thrashing management the way Souray did. The NHL should have fined that clown for thrashing the Oilers organization.
Am I the only one worried that Bettman's compensation package for the kings may include our 1st? I mean it probably won't happen but I do think it's in the realm of possibilty.
Wouldn't be surprised since Bettman hates the Oilers anyways. Burke was allowed to bash Lowe and the Oilers for an entire season and Bettman didn't do **** about it. The minute Lowe says something, he intervenes. Bettman should have stepped in when that bozo Lombardi compared Tambellini to a criminal. There's a reason the Oilers should file a grievance against Lombardi plus for releasing Brule's injury status. Tambellini wasn't happy about that.
Am I the only one worried that Bettman's compensation package for the kings may include our 1st? I mean it probably won't happen but I do think it's in the realm of possibilty.
If Bettman did that, I believe you would see a Doughty offer sheet (by the Oilers). I've read at least one article (not sure where) that implied that the Vanek offer sheet was launched as a reaction to the NHL's failure to do anything about the Nylander agreement that apparently wasn't. If Bettman were to be that arbitrary in these circumstances where the Oiler's "bad faith" is highly debatable (IMO a reasonable person could haved believed at the time of the draft that Fraser would be able to play by training camp) when the league did absolutely nothing about Mike Gillis not contacting Lowe several hours after he knew that Nylander was having second thoughts about his deal, an offer sheet is what I would do.
In every thread, you have Oilers hatred. Blaming Lowe when he's not even the GM is typical of you. Why blame someone when you don't have a clue what happened. I don't recall Khabbi or Heatly bad-mouthing the Oilers. It was that jackass Souray who bad-mouthed the Oilers and did it 4 times. If Souray was so right why was he not picked up on waivers since he was put on waivers 4 times. Don't defend Souray as if he's an angel. He's anything but an angel and criticized them again and again. Heatly wanted to go to a sunny place like California. Khabbi didn't bad-mouth the Oilers. You keep saying things to fit you agenda of the Lowe/ Tambellini hatred.
If Bettman did that, I believe you would see a Doughty offer sheet (by the Oilers). I've read at least one article (not sure where) that implied that the Vanek offer sheet was launched as a reaction to the NHL's failure to do anything about the Nylander agreement that apparently wasn't. If Bettman were to be that arbitrary in these circumstances where the Oiler's "bad faith" is highly debatable (IMO a reasonable person could haved believed at the time of the draft that Fraser would be able to play by training camp) when the league did absolutely nothing about Mike Gillis not contacting Lowe several hours after he knew that Nylander was having second thoughts about his deal, an offer sheet is what I would do.
Can't O/S Doughty if Bettman gives away our 1st. Although I would be all for it.
Can't O/S Doughty if Bettman gives away our 1st. Although I would be all for it.
You're right. Would have to aim lower at a no compensation RFA. Not sure LA has any of those right now, but I think some kind of tantrum would be warranted.
