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08-02-2011, 02:53 PM
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It's not the easiest thing in the world to find a great player out of the top 5 of the draft. Is it possible? Sure.

I took the top 60 point scorers and eliminated anyone 29 and older. I then found their draft position. There were a total of 38 players in the remaining group. Of those 39% or 15 were top 5 picks. If you include picks 6-10, then it's 17 or 45%.

Sure that means that the other 61% or 55% were outside of the top 5 or 10. Of the 21 non-top 10 picks, 8 were first rounders, 13 were not.

Anyway, if I take all of the non-top 10 picks, and find their draft years, 11 of the 21 players were taken in the infamous 2003 draft. 2 in 2001, leaving 8 which were taken in 2004 - 2006 (2-2-4 respectively). So if we spread those 8 players over 3 drafts, that means that an average of 2 2/3 players from each draft taken outside of the top 10 developed into top 60 scorers for last year. If you want to include the 2001 draft, then 2.50.

So if we take into account that the Rangers have only had one top 10 pick in that time (#10), I don't see why anyone can ever complain about the Rangers having no true young stars.
Good job, thanks.
I am not complaining about having no true elite talent. With Dolan's limitations Sather could hardly do much better at drafts. He is doing an okay job by now. My complains are:
1. It took him too long to learn.
2. We have a wrong coach. The one we've got is a motivator. He can do very little with talent available. I want Sullivan to replace Torts ASAP. Our only solid part - defense - is his work.
3. The only two comparable clubs have better ideas. Detroit - to get talent in obscure Europe places. Toronto - to get talent through offer sheets (something we have not done).

I realize it is not easy under Cabelevision oppression. We tried many things to improve: we got Euros, we drafted Russians, we signed UFAs, we drafted NCAA players. Nothing would work like tanking it, but Dolan is against it. So now we build a team out of 2nd rounders and collecting 1st rounders of various years from whoever refused them for some reason. We add veterans our coach knows personally. We took the most difficult way for the ship having some very questionable navigators. Fine. I just do not see that as a sure path to success. Thus, I am looking forward to new season, but I do not like the up-and-down jumping the posters here couldn't stop doing.


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Just kidding.

I'm not sure I understand the whole cablevision oppression thing. Other than not being in favor of tanking I'm not sure what restrictions cablevision places on Sather and the Rangers at all. In fact, I think there's very little.

I'm not a huge Torts fan most of the time either but your opinion on his coaching ability isn't going to be enough to change most people's minds about theirs, unless there's something of substance to support it.

Offer sheets are so scarce and utilizing numerous ones wouldn't be feasible. If you're saying it should be one or two here or there, then maybe. But is that really enough to justify the difference between you having not the greatest vibe about the direction of the organization and other people being excited by it? I don't think so.

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I just think 94 won't be happy until we win the cup, John Tortorella, Glen Sather and Ryan Lundqvist take the cup to his house, and then allow him to use it to bathe his children .

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How did I miss Toronto offer-sheeting somebody?

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