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08-02-2011, 01:24 AM
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I don't understand why they don't just agree on a one year $6.5 or $6.75 and avoid tomorrow's pain - like Parise.
Probably because arbitration will offer a number lower than what Weber would like to see if it were on his or his agents' terms.

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08-02-2011, 01:43 AM
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according to Bruce Dowbiggin, Weber wants 8mil while the Preds have offered 4.5m.

Yah. Umm. that's a big difference in numbers there.

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according to Bruce Dowbiggin, Weber wants 8mil while the Preds have offered 4.5m.

Yah. Umm. that's a big difference in numbers there.
No way the preds only offered him 4.5..

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It's no longer worst-case if he gets to arbitration, more like "second to worst case." It was leaked yesterday that he chose a 1 year deal over a 2 year deal...essentially putting his money where his mouth is, in regard to all of his "Nashville is where I want to be" talk. A two year deal would have meant that he was UFA at the end of his contract...by choosing the 1, it guarantees that, at worst, Nashville has to go through this again next summer.

I still think it gets done before arbitration, but there's at least a silver lining.
I believe a player can only go to salary arbitration once in their career but I may be wrong.

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IMO he should be the highest paid d man in the NHL if it is a one year contract. The guy is an absolute beast, and I do not think that Doughty should be compare to Weber either. I know LA is waiting to say look he got this so you should make less. But Weber is above Doughty right now, I know age comes in to play but Weber is a much more well rounded d man. I would expect around 7.5 - 8 mil

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08-02-2011, 03:22 AM
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Chara
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kieth
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comparables

Phenuf could be a comparable as a percentage of the cap and adjusted to the current cap.
You know of the comparables listed at the top, only Keith is a comparable right? The rest of the guys were signed as UFAs.

That being said, I like the Phaneuf comparable. After considering the cap increase, is that like $9M?

Mike Green may also be seens as a comparable...I think that would put Weber at about $6.1M.

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08-02-2011, 05:32 AM
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according to Bruce Dowbiggin, Weber wants 8mil while the Preds have offered 4.5m.

Yah. Umm. that's a big difference in numbers there.
No way in hell I believe that. We are 7 million under the cap FLOOR. We got to spend 7 million dollars. Poile has repeatedly said money is NOT an issue.

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according to Bruce Dowbiggin, Weber wants 8mil while the Preds have offered 4.5m.

Yah. Umm. that's a big difference in numbers there.
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Predators offering Weber 4.5 m. Weber wants 8 m. Wonder why they haven't settled yet?
https://twitter.com/#!/dowbboy/status/98246066792693761

Arbitrator splits the difference. Weber will get awarded $6.25M. Each side submits a number in their brief. Its all BS. Both sides know the arbitrator will split the difference.

Weber will elect the term of the award. It should be in his brief. The party taken to arbitration elects the term. 1 year or 2 years. If the player is 1 year away from group III,the award can only be for 1 year. Weber is two years away from being a group III. He misses being a group III next July because he was born after July 1. Born on August 14. Next July 1,Weber is still 26 years old.

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Here is the link
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Arbitrator splits the difference. Weber will get awarded $6.25M. Each side submits a number in their brief. Its all BS. Both sides know the arbitrator will split the difference.

Weber will elect the term of the award. It should be in his brief. The party taken to arbitration elects the term. 1 year or 2 years. If the player is 1 year away from group III,the award can only be for 1 year. Weber is two years away from being a group III. He misses being a group III next July because he was born after July 1. Born on August 14. Next July 1,Weber is still 26 years old.
Yeah I bet he chooses two years and be done with it.

I'll guess $6.5M per.

We'll find out within hours now.

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08-02-2011, 06:14 AM
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Dowbiggen is full of it. Weber has made 4.5 for the past 3 years. I highly doubt they're offering no raise.

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Yeah I bet he chooses two years and be done with it.

I'll guess $6.5M per.

We'll find out within hours now.
The arbitrator has 48 hours to issue the award. If the hearing is conducted,the award will be issued on Thursday.

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Dowbiggen is full of it. Weber has made 4.5 for the past 3 years. I highly doubt they're offering no raise.
Not only that...but isn't the minimumm qualifying offer for an RFA s 10% pay increase?

So the minimun would have to be 4.95M per season. Middle of august and even the media is so bored out of their minds that they're making it all up. What a horrible world.

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Not only that...but isn't the minimumm qualifying offer for an RFA s 10% pay increase?

So the minimun would have to be 4.95M per season. Middle of august and even the media is so bored out of their minds that they're making it all up. What a horrible world.
Incorrect.

Any player who had a NHL salary over 1 million does not need to have an increase to meet a QO. So 4.5 million was Weber's minimum QO.

Players with a salary $660,000 or less would need a 10% increase to be qualified.

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I'm curious about something, and I apologize if this has been answered before. Since this is club elected arbitration, does Weber have the opportunity to walk away?

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6.8M, two years.

That allows maximum time for annoying unrealistic proposals.

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Remember what each team ask for in arbitration does not necessarily mean that is what they offered before hand. Arbitration in hockey isn't like in baseball where the arbitrator has to pick one of the offers. In hockey the arbitrator is the one that comes up with the number. So each side submits an offer to the extremes. Half way between 4.5 and 8 is 6.25. That is about what Weber should get. Now if say if Weber still asked 8, but the Predators put in a more reasonable the half way point (where these usually end up) is about 7. Same thing in reverse where is Weber submits a reasonable number he gets less.

If it was the baseball system where it was pick an offer you would get about what they were actually wanting. My guess here the Predators wanted something around 6 and Weber wanted something around 7 and they couldn't settle some where between so it is going to arbitration.

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Nashville is screwed
Going to have to pay him 6-7 million for one season
Weber will be UFA at the end of the season
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They cant trade him.

Up ***** creek without a paddle

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Nashville is screwed
Going to have to pay him 6-7 million for one season
Weber will be UFA at the end of the season
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They cant trade him.

Up ***** creek without a paddle
He'll still be an RFA a the end of the season.

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Nashville is screwed
Going to have to pay him 6-7 million for one season
Weber will be UFA at the end of the season
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They cant trade him.

Up ***** creek without a paddle
He will not be a UFA at the end of the year. And they are probably expecting to pay him 6-7 million.

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6.5M for the long term..
yeahh.... thats not how arbitration works.

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6.8M, two years.

That allows maximum time for annoying unrealistic proposals.
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Nashville is screwed
Going to have to pay him 6-7 million for one season
Weber will be UFA at the end of the season
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They cant trade him.

Up ***** creek without a paddle
One season still makes him a RFA.

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