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08-01-2011, 12:15 PM
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NHL: 30 Teams in 30 Days

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=70217

NHL.com starts its in-depth look at each team's offseason moves

Sabres on Wednesday

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It's up now: article, video.

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EJ says buffalo is a bubble team but thinks they're in.

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EJ says buffalo is a bubble team but thinks they're in.
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wow , what a disgrace of a hockey analyst

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wow , what a disgrace of a hockey analyst
What did he say that was wrong?
Oh yeah, you disagree with him, so that must make him a disgrace.

He's lame sometimes, but he didn't say anything that was untrue in the video.

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EJ says buffalo is a bubble team but thinks they're in.
A team that finished 7th, took the Flyers to the wall, has a vastly improved defense, and is still solid up front is a BUBBLE team?

If this is what qualifies for top end hockey analysis, we're in trouble.

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What did he say that was wrong?
Oh yeah, you disagree with him, so that must make him a disgrace.

He's lame sometimes, but he didn't say anything that was untrue in the video.
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A team that finished 7th, took the Flyers to the wall, has a vastly improved defense, and is still solid up front is a BUBBLE team?

If this is what qualifies for top end hockey analysis, we're in trouble.
Time will tell. If Leino doesn't work out at center, we're 1 injury away from having Hecht/Adam as our top two centers. Even with the improved D, that team would struggle to score. We, on paper, could be a great team. However, players traditionally struggle off their UFA contracts and considering we are relying on two of them in pretty big roles, it's not unthinkable we could have issues this year. I think we'll make the playoffs too, but we could easily roll in around 6, 7 or even 8 instead of the 3/4 alot of people have projected at.

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Seemed like a fair article to me. He outlined that we obviously had a large influx of talent, but also notes that alone doesn't mean much if they can't figure out how to play together. A big chunk of this team got changed this off-season, so just adding talent doesn't automatically mean they'll come together and play well. Obviously we believe and hope they will, but it's not guaranteed, so his analysis is pretty good.

The only part I'd say he's wrong on is Kotalik playing on this team and providing any kind of presence. I don't expect to see him here at all unless there's big injury problems.

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The article was fine.

EJ's video analysis is what's drawing ire, and I think rightfully.

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Nothing wrong with some realism, even in the video. People have doubts and all he expressed is that they're a bubble team and he thinks they're in. Leino as the 2C and Hecht as the 3C is a risk. They retooled 1/3rd of their blueline (and the mix is still slanted toward skating/puckmoving types) and there will be adjustment periods back there.

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EJ seems like a terrible analyst to me. The first thing that got me this summer was when he was supposed to write weekly about 2011 free agency, one week he writes about Detroits 2012 free agents.

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Why is Gerbe listed as a center?

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What did he say that was wrong?
Oh yeah, you disagree with him, so that must make him a disgrace.

He's lame sometimes, but he didn't say anything that was untrue in the video.
"They think Leino can be a center, even though he plays wing"

He didn't mention anything about how he used to play center, which throws things a bit off

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Nothing wrong with some realism, even in the video. People have doubts and all he expressed is that they're a bubble team and he thinks they're in. Leino as the 2C and Hecht as the 3C is a risk. They retooled 1/3rd of their blueline (and the mix is still slanted toward skating/puckmoving types) and there will be adjustment periods back there.
The bubble team part is what got me. At worst, the Sabres should be as good as last year, although many would also say they'd be better. To say they're a bubble team, you're implying that they will be fighting the people around them for the 8th spot.

Looking at the teams around them, who got significantly better?I would say objectively that out of the 6 - 10 group from last year, the Sabres improved the most.

So, from my view, trying not to be a homer, I can't see how you can call this team a bubble team on the way in.

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"They think Leino can be a center, even though he plays wing"

He didn't mention anything about how he used to play center, which throws things a bit off
Considering the entire paragraph on how Kotalik is going to improve the Sabres', I think it's pretty obvious he spent 2 minutes doing research on the offseason before he wrote the article.

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I think they're better then a bubble team, I think they finish 5th in the conference, maybe 4th if Boston has a hangover and they can beat out the Habs for the division. EJ is entitled to his opinion though, I thought he stated his case well.

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The bubble team part is what got me. At worst, the Sabres should be as good as last year, although many would also say they'd be better. To say they're a bubble team, you're implying that they will be fighting the people around them for the 8th spot.

Looking at the teams around them, who got significantly better?I would say objectively that out of the 6 - 10 group from last year, the Sabres improved the most.

So, from my view, trying not to be a homer, I can't see how you can call this team a bubble team on the way in.
So, a bubble team?

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I must be in the minority here, but any article I read about the Sabres, good or bad, I think "heh, whatever, I'll make up my own mind". Therefore I don't get too upset or too excited about "hockey analysts". Most of the time they're wrong anyway when saying good and bad things year after year. Yet some hang on their every word year after year. Just don't get it.

Putting on my hockey analyst hat .... The Sabres on paper look a lot better than last season. Until they play the games, we simply don't know how much better.

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"They think Leino can be a center, even though he plays wing"

He didn't mention anything about how he used to play center, which throws things a bit off
Yes he did. He said we are moving him back to his natural Position for the first time in his NHL career. That's about right.

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Center Tim Connolly, who can be a brilliant playmaker when healthy, signed a free-agent deal with Toronto last month. Connolly was the longest-tenured Sabre on the team last season. Although concussion problems plagued him in the past, the past two years he had returned to being a vital player on the Buffalo roster. He played 73 games in 2009-10 and 68 games this past season. With 42 points, Connolly was the only player among Buffalo’s top-13 scorers to leave the team in the offseason.
Overall I feel the "general" analysts give Connolly too much credit for last season (living off the same old reputation: "when he's healthy he's great"). I won't deny his contributions to the PK, but on the offensive end it was his wingers who carried him and as I think Zip (?) has pointed out he had one of the highest 2nd-assists rates and his ES numbers were atrocious.

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Yes he did. He said we are moving him back to his natural Position for the first time in his NHL career. That's about right.
That was the article written by Greg Picker, I was talking about the video by EJ Hradek

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I think the article was bad, although i don't disagree with the conclusion. It's just poorly written and researched. His takes on Miller, Kotalik, Connolly, Montador are superficial at best and he uses way to many platitudes.
His take on the team is reasonable though. I hope that we won't be a bubble team but it's a possibility that is not too far away and if someone thinks so, fine.

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That was the article written by Greg Picker, I was talking about the video by EJ Hradek
Ah...didn't watch the video. My bad.

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The bubble team part is what got me. At worst, the Sabres should be as good as last year, although many would also say they'd be better. To say they're a bubble team, you're implying that they will be fighting the people around them for the 8th spot.

Looking at the teams around them, who got significantly better?I would say objectively that out of the 6 - 10 group from last year, the Sabres improved the most.

So, from my view, trying not to be a homer, I can't see how you can call this team a bubble team on the way in.
I've stated all along that I think a healthy Pens and healthy Caps are 1 and 2 (or 2 and 1) in the East, but that 4-12 is pretty much wide open and any of three teams could be #1 in the NE. If anyone stumbles, they're going to be hard pressed to make up ground.

#6 last year was Montreal and they're getting their best skater back in Markov -- he stays healthy and they're improved. #8 Rangers added the #1 center they wanted/needed and retained the rest of their young players. #9 Carolina added a powerplay catalyst. #10 Toronto gets a better option in the middle than Bozak and picked up a quality PMD in Liles. #11 NJ gets Parise back, healthy. All of the teams around last year's 6-11 area have improved, or at least will tell you that they've improved.

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