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08-03-2011, 03:19 PM
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Weber's salary arbitration is 7.5M per.. Interesting to see if Nashville takes it considering there counter offer to Weber's 8.5M was 4.75 for 1 year.
I can't find this confirmed anywhere.

Edit: I see it linked from the Preds boards: https://twitter.com/#!/WharnsCBCSPOR...27052706316288 , but not anywhere else (TSN, CBC, Bob Mackenzie's Twitter, Dreger's Twitter...)

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I can't find this confirmed anywhere.
TSN's always good for this stuff.

At any rate... I don't see Weber moving till next offseason at the earliest.

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08-03-2011, 03:23 PM
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I wonder how often Weber's agent brought up Ehrhoff, JayBo and Campbell's contracts.

I also wonder how much Doughty now gets.

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08-03-2011, 03:27 PM
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Finally got around to posting, I guess.

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Yeah I think Doughty did the best in terms of cashing in for himself. I think this benchmarks his value. I doubt he signs for anything less than 7.5 a year. Bet DL wishes he could have not let Doughty participate at the Olympics. Oh well, suck it DL!!!

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I wonder how often Weber's agent brought up Ehrhoff, JayBo and Campbell's contracts.

I also wonder how much Doughty now gets.
I can't see Doughty having much less than a 6mil cap hit and that's if he is willing to sign a hometown discount, which I don't even know is the case.

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08-03-2011, 03:38 PM
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I'll go out on a limb and suggest Weber would never sign an extension in Edmonton. And I wouldn't blame him either.

The club has potential but Edmonton is Edmonton.


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08-03-2011, 03:46 PM
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I'll go out on a limp and suggest Weber would never sign an extension in Edmonton. And I wouldn't blame him either.

The club has potential but Edmonton is Edmonton.
This kind of thinking needs to stop. You contribute nothing to threads when making statements such as this. You have NO idea where Shea would like to play. Each city has pros and cons. Each pro and con is perceived differently for each unique player. Just because a Heatley may not want to play in Edmonton does not mean that the same goes for Weber.

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08-03-2011, 03:55 PM
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This kind of thinking needs to stop. You contribute nothing to threads when making statements such as this. You have NO idea where Shea would like to play. Each city has pros and cons. Each pro and con is perceived differently for each unique player. Just because a Heatley may not want to play in Edmonton does not mean that the same goes for Weber.
You're being naive but you're entitled to your opinion.

I don't know with 100% certainty that Crosby will never leave Pittsburgh to play in the KHL but I can make assumptions.

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I'll go out on a limb and suggest Weber would never sign an extension in Edmonton. And I wouldn't blame him either.

The club has potential but Edmonton is Edmonton.
Clueless....Where do you live out of curiousity?

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Clueless....Where do you live out of curiousity?
Edmonton.

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Edmonton.
Then why the bad attitude? Weber is a western canadian guy. Im sure he would be happy here. I can't beleive how much bad attitudes like Heatley and Pronger have affected the fans here!

And I know...Heatley is a western canadian guy but the trade this summer just seems to justify what we all though Heatley was like.

I just don't see Weber having that type of personality!

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Then why the bad attitude? Weber is a western canadian guy. Im sure he would be happy here. I can't beleive how much bad attitudes like Heatley and Pronger have affected the fans here!

And I know...Heatley is a western canadian guy but the trade this summer just seems to justify what we all though Heatley was like.

I just don't see Weber having that type of personality!
I'm just trying to be realistic. All things being equal not many players will choose Edmonton.

Crappy weather. No anonymity. Not much in terms of entertainment. Worst travel schedule in the NHL.

I'm all for trading for Weber, I just wouldn't do it without an extension as I feel we would just be throwing away assets.

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08-03-2011, 04:33 PM
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I'm just trying to be realistic. All things being equal not many players will choose Edmonton.

Crappy weather. No anonymity. Not much in terms of entertainment. Worst travel schedule in the NHL.

I'm all for trading for Weber, I just wouldn't do it without an extension as I feel we would just be throwing away assets.
Crappy is a subjective term. No anonymity is not a negative for every player. Entertainment qualm really depends on what you're interests are. The amount of time they are actually sitting in Edmonton when they don't have much to do, this is a hugely overrated point against Edmonton when it comes to hockey players. They're busy people, and they aren't at home for long stretches very often until summer time (and then many leave Edmonton anyway). Worst travel schedule? Vancouver says hi.

I agree with your final point, however. An extension is necessary.

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I'll go out on a limb and suggest Weber would never sign an extension in Edmonton. And I wouldn't blame him either.

The club has potential but Edmonton is Edmonton.
Look at Detroit. Not a great city yet people want to play there because they're good and seems like they always will be. Look at teams like Chicago, Pittsburgh and Washington. They started signing top notch free agents after they became good. I think most players care about winning over the city. When the Oilers become good, they will be signing free agents.

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Can we please not turn this into yet another "Edmonton suxors" thread? Thank you.

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I wonder how often Weber's agent brought up Ehrhoff, JayBo and Campbell's contracts.

I also wonder how much Doughty now gets.
Not at all, as all those contracts were signed by those players as UFAs and would be dismissed from consideration in arbitration.

I wonder who some RFA comparables may have been, though. Hard to think of any. Yandle and Phaneuf I suppose.

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Can we please not turn this into yet another "Edmonton suxors" thread? Thank you.
So you're just going to assume that Weber would sign an extension in Edmonton?

Fabulous asset management.

Like it or not "Edmonton suxors" is part of the equation.

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Not at all, as all those contracts were signed by those players as UFAs and would be dismissed from consideration in arbitration.

I wonder who some RFA comparables may have been, though. Hard to think of any. Yandle and Phaneuf I suppose.
I don't know who qualifies, but technically Jbo and Erhoff weren't UFAs.

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I'll go out on a limb and suggest Weber would never sign an extension in Edmonton. And I wouldn't blame him either.

The club has potential but Edmonton is Edmonton.
Why wouldn't he sign an extension with Edmonton, what makes you think that he wouldn't besides the Edmonton is Edmonton nonsense?
I truly believe that more players are becoming inclined to sign with a team like Edmonton because of the attractiveness of the young players, if players see a lot of potential with this team then they will be more willing to sign here to be a part of it, plain and simple.

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What's the big deal if Weber doesn't re-sign? He's still a RFA who you could shop all year.

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So you're just going to assume that Weber would sign an extension in Edmonton?

Fabulous asset management.

Like it or not "Edmonton suxors" is part of the equation.
Obviously you don't trade for the guy if he isn't willing to sign an extension. It's not like this needs to be debated. Keep to the topic at hand.

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Of course we should make a play for him, who wouldn't want this guy on there team. He's probably the best Dman in the NHL right now. If he isn't worth a max deal for 10 years, I don't know who is.

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Of course we should make a play for him, who wouldn't want this guy on there team. He's probably the best Dman in the NHL right now. If he isn't worth a max deal for 10 years, I don't know who is.
That's a bit insane. He is a top 5ish right now, but to give him max money for 10 years?

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I don't think anyone is reasonably worth max money for 10 years other than MAYBE Crosby pre-concussions.


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