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Sens Board Prospect Rankings (29th)

View Poll Results: Sens Board Prospect Rankings (29th)
Bryce Aneloski 3 3.61%
Darren Kramer 0 0%
Wacey Hamilton 24 28.92%
Jeff Costello 1 1.20%
Jordan Fransoo 0 0%
Jakub Culek 31 37.35%
Max McCormick 1 1.20%
Pat Cannone 7 8.43%
David Dziurzynski 15 18.07%
Craig Schira 1 1.20%
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08-04-2011, 12:10 PM
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Sens Board Prospect Rankings (29th)

Sens Prospect Rankings:

1. David Rundblad D (61.50%) 6.02-189 20yo
2. Jared Cowen D (56.16%) 6.05-220 20yo
3. Robin Lehner G (71.52%) 6.03-220 20yo
4. Mika Zibanejad C (42.70%) 6.02-192 18yo
5. Nikita Filatov LW (54.35%) 6.00-190 21yo
6. Jakob Silfverberg LW (78.29%) 6.01-187 20yo
7. Bobby Butler RW (47.54%) 6.00-180 24yo
8. Matthew Puempel LW (35.82%) 6.00-190 18yo
9. Stefan Noesen RW (52.50%) 6.01-193 18yo
10. Colin Greening LW (N/A) 6.03-211 25yo
11. Erik Condra RW (N/A) 6.00-188 24yo
12. Patrick Wiercioch D (52.76%) 6.04-192 20yo
13. Stephane Da Costa C (61.62%) 5.11-180 22yo
14. Shane Prince LW (29.93%) 5.11-185 18yo
15. Andre Petersson LW (50.50%) 5.09-169 20yo
16. Mark Borowiecki D (31.36%) 6.01-198 22yo
17. Mark Stone RW (35.42%) 6.03-200 19yo
18. Mike Hoffman C (47.47%) 5.11-175 21yo
19. Eric Gryba D (33.04%) 6.03-214 23yo
20. Jim O'Brien C (49.09%) 6.02-200 22yo
21. Derek Grant C (38.00%) 6.03-190 21yo
22. Marcus Sorensen RW (41.58%) 5.11-161 19yo
23. Jean-Gabriel Pageau C (59.55%) 5.09-164 18yo
24. Louie Caporusso C (33.00%) 5.10-188 22yo
25. Ben Blood D USA (52.81%) 6.3-212 22yo
26. Kaspars Daugavins LW LV (47.19%) 6.0-205 23yo
27. Fredrik Claesson D SWE (30.59%) 6.00-198 18yo
28. Chris Wideman D USA (32.10%) 5.10-174 21yo

Going to Round 30!

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Damn exciting prospect depth!!!!

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2007 top prospects... (according to HF)

1. (2) Josh Hennessy, C, 22
2. (1) Brian Lee, D, 19
3. (3) Nick Foligno, LW, 19
4. (4) Igor Mirnov, C, 22
5. (6) Kirill Lyamin, D, 21
6. (9) Brian Elliott, G, 21
7. (8) Ilya Zubov, C, 20
8. (13) Shawn Weller, LW, 20
9. (NR) Kaspars Daugavins, LW, 18
10. (5) Michal Barinka, D, 22
11. (12) Alexander Nikulin, C, 21
12. (10) Vitaly Anikeyenko, D, 20
13. (16) Tomas Kudelka, D, 19
14. (15) Cody Bass, C, 20
15. (11) Arttu Luttinen, LW, 23
16. (7) Jeff Glass, G, 21
17. (14) Kelly Guard, G, 21
18. (NR) Erik Condra, RW, 20
19. (19) Erik Gryba, D, 18
20. (20) Peter Regin, C, 20

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08-04-2011, 01:35 PM
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2007 top prospects... (according to HF)

1. (2) Josh Hennessy, C, 22
2. (1) Brian Lee, D, 19
3. (3) Nick Foligno, LW, 19
4. (4) Igor Mirnov, C, 22
5. (6) Kirill Lyamin, D, 21
6. (9) Brian Elliott, G, 21
7. (8) Ilya Zubov, C, 20
8. (13) Shawn Weller, LW, 20
9. (NR) Kaspars Daugavins, LW, 18
10. (5) Michal Barinka, D, 22
11. (12) Alexander Nikulin, C, 21
12. (10) Vitaly Anikeyenko, D, 20
13. (16) Tomas Kudelka, D, 19
14. (15) Cody Bass, C, 20
15. (11) Arttu Luttinen, LW, 23
16. (7) Jeff Glass, G, 21
17. (14) Kelly Guard, G, 21
18. (NR) Erik Condra, RW, 20
19. (19) Erik Gryba, D, 18
20. (20) Peter Regin, C, 20
Amazing that Gryba was also ranked 19th 4 years ago.

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JOB is our 20th best prospect... that's depth.

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Amazing that Gryba was also ranked 19th 4 years ago.
What's more amazing is that Josh Hennessy was ever our best rated prospect.

... *shudder*

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Cannone/Culek

Toss up. I pick the one who was considered best playmaker in NCAA last year.

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Dizzy. He had a great finish to his season in Binghamton.

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Voted Cannone. Still a bit surprised that Aneloski isn't getting much love. Big defenseman who put up good numbers as a freshman (admittedly, an older freshman). Could play pro some day.

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2007 top prospects... (according to HF)

1. (2) Josh Hennessy, C, 22
2. (1) Brian Lee, D, 19
3. (3) Nick Foligno, LW, 19
4. (4) Igor Mirnov, C, 22
5. (6) Kirill Lyamin, D, 21
6. (9) Brian Elliott, G, 21
7. (8) Ilya Zubov, C, 20
8. (13) Shawn Weller, LW, 20
9. (NR) Kaspars Daugavins, LW, 18
10. (5) Michal Barinka, D, 22
11. (12) Alexander Nikulin, C, 21
12. (10) Vitaly Anikeyenko, D, 20
13. (16) Tomas Kudelka, D, 19
14. (15) Cody Bass, C, 20
15. (11) Arttu Luttinen, LW, 23
16. (7) Jeff Glass, G, 21
17. (14) Kelly Guard, G, 21
18. (NR) Erik Condra, RW, 20
19. (19) Erik Gryba, D, 18
20. (20) Peter Regin, C, 20
I shuddered just looking at that. Literally.

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The mods should create a stickied thread which includes archived links to our annual fan-voted top30/top20 prospects. Also if someone can dig up threads like this one from past summers, I'm sure we can come up with a fairly comprehensive collection.

It'll be interesting to look back as the years go by.

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Dizzy. He had a great finish to his season in Binghamton.
This, Dizzy is actually not that far off from being an NHLer.

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Who is Dizzy?

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Dziurzynski. (Typoed, I'm sure.)

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Who is Dizzy?
Dizzy is Dziurzynski's nickname. Kleinendorst and a few other B sens players have referred to Dziurzynski as Dizzy multiple times in interviews with B sens writer Joy Lindsay.

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Daugavins went from 9th to 24th in 4 years lol.

Just found it funny that a few people were complaining that the still hasn't gotten his chance in the Big League but vote players that didn't even play one game in North America way ahead of him.

Still a pretty decent list if you ask me. Miles ahead of what we were a few years ago, that's for sure.


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Cannone/Culek

Toss up. I pick the one who was considered best playmaker in NCAA last year.
Culek is coming off a **** season. IMO he falls a bit in the rankings. He is projected to be a third liner but appears to be somewhat lacking in both offensive ability and physical play. Dizzy (Dziurzynski) is slightly bigger, as good if not a better skater, and more physical of a player. I noticed that at times Dizzy also displayed some high end offensive skill in terms of awareness/ vision and passing. He plays the powerforward kind of game by both protecting the puck well and driving the net hard. While his offensive skill is apparent, he is somewhat streaky. Throughout the season he wound up on nearly every line for stretches, going from a 4th line energy guy to a first line offensive threat.For a while there he filled in Greening's role in Bingo and actually shined for a bit given the increased responsibility.

As a pro it is hard to assess him. If he can be more consistent with his offensive skill than he could be a 2nd liner or a complementary first liner type, if not he could just be a 4th liner. My guess is that he winds up as a second liner in terms of skill but plays on the third line due to the forward depth.

He was predicted to be playing in the ECHL at the start of last season and ended up being a first liner in Bingo for a stretch. IMO the performance bumps him ahead of Culek.

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The mods should create a stickied thread which includes archived links to our annual fan-voted top30/top20 prospects. Also if someone can dig up threads like this one from past summers, I'm sure we can come up with a fairly comprehensive collection.

It'll be interesting to look back as the years go by.
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=949045

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Nice work, and it should be stickied.

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Culek is coming off a **** season. IMO he falls a bit in the rankings. He is projected to be a third liner but appears to be somewhat lacking in both offensive ability and physical play. Dizzy (Dziurzynski) is slightly bigger, as good if not a better skater, and more physical of a player. I noticed that at times Dizzy also displayed some high end offensive skill in terms of awareness/ vision and passing. He plays the powerforward kind of game by both protecting the puck well and driving the net hard. While his offensive skill is apparent, he is somewhat streaky. Throughout the season he wound up on nearly every line for stretches, going from a 4th line energy guy to a first line offensive threat.For a while there he filled in Greening's role in Bingo and actually shined for a bit given the increased responsibility.

As a pro it is hard to assess him. If he can be more consistent with his offensive skill than he could be a 2nd liner or a complementary first liner type, if not he could just be a 4th liner. My guess is that he winds up as a second liner in terms of skill but plays on the third line due to the forward depth.

He was predicted to be playing in the ECHL at the start of last season and ended up being a first liner in Bingo for a stretch. IMO the performance bumps him ahead of Culek.
I agree with you & there are a few other players already on this list that I would put DZ ahead of. But then I sort of rank players by whether they will ever make it to the NHL & I don't see a guy like Wideman making it to the NHL or Pageau, Daugavins or Sorenson. They may all have more skill but their size & lack of toughness IMO hurts their chances whereas DZ has size, toughness & some skill to go with it.

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I agree with you & there are a few other players already on this list that I would put DZ ahead of. But then I sort of rank players by whether they will ever make it to the NHL & I don't see a guy like Wideman making it to the NHL or Pageau, Daugavins or Sorenson. They may all have more skill but their size & lack of toughness IMO hurts their chances whereas DZ has size, toughness & some skill to go with it.
Pageau and Sorenson could both be NHL players at some point but that is contingent upon them being top six forwards. Pettersson is another example of a player that is in a similar situation. They are all undersized and are basically top six or bust. IMO you jumped the gun a bit here; it is a bit early to assess whether pageau or sorenson will be pro's.

K Dawg is either in the NHL this year or he heads over seas. At this point it is highly probably that K Dawg never becomes an NHLer.

Wideman could possibly wind up as a 7th d puck mover pp specialist at some point, maybe i his thirties but at this point it will take a lot for him to play in the NHL.

IMO Culek won't be an NHLer. He projects to be a bottom sixer but he doesn't really excel at any area to warrant him being a valuable commodity. I might be a little to unfairly biased against him but I just don't see him as an NHLer.

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You guys would be surprised to see how many small players are in today's NHL.

Size hurt your chances but many overcome it, and it seems to be players people didn't expect most of the time

Just a few examples :

Bouillon (who is small but became strong), St-Louis (same), Shannon (small and not that strong but still can play at the NHL level), Karlsson (we know him), Enstrom (smaller than Karlsson), Kriss Russell, Visnovsky...

Pageau, Sorensen and Wideman have their chances to reach the NHL too, as much as others. They just need to compensate their lack of size and/or toughness by something else, like all the small players did.

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