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08-07-2004, 11:40 AM
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Forecaster is out!! (Habs)

"In time, the Belarussian should effectively replace Alex Kovalev's skill at right wing in Montreal. Slick Kostsitsyn possesses 50 goal potentiel"

And they put theHabs out of the playoff....10th overall in the east...Buffalo and the Islanders ahead...not so sure about that...

our best scorers

1-Kovalev (if signed) 81g 27g 46a 73pts
2-Koivu 79g 22g 46a 68pts
3-Mike Ribeiro 76g 16g 43a 59pts
4-Richard Zednik 80g 29g 28a 57pts
5-Andrei Markov 77g 13g 41a 54pts
6-Micheal Ryder 80g 20g 29a 49pts
7-Radek Bonk 82g 14g 27a 41pts
8-Jan Bulis 81g 16g 22a 38pts

Souray...28pts...10 goals... in 77 games....yeah right

I'M surprise for Ryder...49pts...and Markov, 54!!


For Markov, 54pts, would put him 4th!!!! for points for defensemen

1-Gonchar 64pts
2-Pronger 58pts
3-Leetch 55pts
4-MARKOV 54pts
5-Berard 52pts

its a surprise, but we all know the potentiel of Markov could do just that.


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08-07-2004, 11:43 AM
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And they say that Andei has the talent to scored 50 goals and that he could replace Kovalev very well....And they put theHabs out of the playoff....10th overall in the east...Buffalo and the Islanders ahead...not so sure about that...
Who's they? And where did the info come from?

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08-07-2004, 11:45 AM
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Uhm, the Forecaster, as mentioned in the title.

That mag is junk anyway.

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08-07-2004, 11:53 AM
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Sounds like crap to me for a couple of reasons.

1) How many guys score 50 goals now a days? They overrate Kostsitsyn quite a bit.

2) If Kovalev re-signs with the Habs and all the top guns stay healthy (like the forecaster seems to be predicting), then i highly doubt the Habs would finish as low as 10th in the East. I'd take that team over the Islanders or Sabres any day of the week.

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Those magazines always seem to underrate the habs as a team and aren't very high on them or the players. Though the habs always prove them wrong and do better then they predict them to and thats all that matters, unless somthing goes really wrong, like theodore going down with injury or a lot of top players getting bad injuries I don't see the habs finishing tenth, if things go decently well anywhere from 5-8 in the east is what i would expect.

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08-07-2004, 12:03 PM
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And they say that Andei has the talent to scored 50 goals and that he could replace Kovalev very well....And they put theHabs out of the playoff....10th overall in the east...Buffalo and the Islanders ahead...not so sure about that...

our best scorers

1-Kovalev (if signed) 81g 27g 46a 73pts
2-Koivu 79g 22g 46a 68pts
3-Mike Ribeiro 76g 16g 43a 59pts
4-Richard Zednik 80g 29g 28a 57pts
5-Andrei Markov 77g 13g 41a 54pts
6-Micheal Ryder 80g 20g 29a 49pts
7-Radek Bonk 82g 14g 27a 41pts


Souray...28pts...10 goals... in 77 games....yeah right

I'M surprise for Ryder...49pts...and Markov, 54!!
They seems to think that every players who got a unnexpected great year, last year will all downfall.

Like Ribeiro...Ryder...Souray....even Bonk.

Here's the Eagle prediction...

Kovalev 76-27-41-68
Koivu...79-19-49-68
Ribeiro...81-18-49-67
Zednik...82-29-28-57
Ryder...82-27-32-59
Markov...78-11-34-45
Bonk...80-14-32-46
Souray...69-13-24-38

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08-07-2004, 12:05 PM
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Last year the same magazine predicted the Habs at 14 position in front of Pittsburgh...Boooooouuuh

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Last year the same magazine predicted the Habs at 14 position in front of Pittsburgh...Boooooouuuh
14th and we finished seventh.

According to my math then, if they say 10th we should finish 3rd. We're winning our division

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Last year the same magazine predicted the Habs at 14 position in front of Pittsburgh...Boooooouuuh
Our team is better than last year. Even if we don't sign Kovy.

But some teams in front of us are getting weaker...like Ottawa, Boston for exemple, IMO.

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08-07-2004, 12:13 PM
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Uhm, the Forecaster, as mentioned in the title.

That mag is junk anyway.
Never heard of it.

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08-07-2004, 12:16 PM
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14th and we finished seventh.

According to my math then, if they say 10th we should finish 3rd. We're winning our division
In comparison to lasts years prediction vs performance, then they would finish 5th I believe.

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Never heard of it.
With those kind of predictions, it's normal you didn't heard of it, they must be selling hundreds of copies only. 50 goals for Kostsytsyn :lol And he could replace Kovalev easyly, by next year :lol

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In comparison to lasts years prediction vs performance, then they would finish 5th I believe.
Ya, but I was just doing how many positions they were off by as opposed to
7:14 -> 5:10

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08-07-2004, 12:19 PM
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Never heard of it.
Hey you're not missing much, carry on citizen

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08-07-2004, 12:21 PM
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With those kind of predictions, it's normal you didn't heard of it, they must be selling hundreds of copies only. 50 goals for Kostsytsyn :lol And he could replace Kovalev easyly, by next year :lol


They are not saying that he would score 50 goals next year, but in the near future, he could do just that. Kost has the potentiel.


"In time, the Belarussian should effectively replace Alex Kovalev's skill at right wing in Montreal. Slick Kostsitsyn possesses 50 goal potentiel"

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08-07-2004, 12:26 PM
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They are not saying that he would score 50 goals next year, but in the near future, he could do just that. Kost has the potentiel.


"In time, the Belarussian should effectively replace Alex Kovalev's skill at right wing in Montreal. Slick Kostsitsyn possesses 50 goal potentiel"
It's better.

But i bet that he will never touch the 50 goal mark in his entire career.
Not because i think he's a bad player, because the game have changed and even Nash/Kovalchuk will have troubles scoring 50.

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08-07-2004, 12:27 PM
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Also...

1-Kovalev (if signed) 81g 27g 46a 73pts
2-Koivu 79g 22g 46a 68pts
3-Mike Ribeiro 76g 16g 43a 59pts
4-Richard Zednik 80g 29g 28a 57pts
5-Andrei Markov 77g 13g 41a 54pts
6-Micheal Ryder 80g 20g 29a 49pts
7-Radek Bonk 82g 14g 27a 41pts

Makes for a total of 260 assists. And our top scorer will not even reach the 30 goal mark. (Come on, was it too hard to just put a freakin' 30)

I didn't know we had so many Bondra's on our team :lol

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Hey you're not missing much, carry on citizen
Lol, thanks!

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08-07-2004, 01:37 PM
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The Forecaster is crap. Last year's edition was terrible. The worst is many people use the "Forecrapster" in hockey pools and league, justifying trades and such with the stuff they feed. Oh well...

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08-07-2004, 01:46 PM
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It's a Toronto publication. I think The Toronto Star has a hand in it. I like their individual player analysis for the most part. It's interesting to read. Sometimes you come upon something you didn't know about a player. But their predictions are always way off.

It's too early for it to come out anyway. They should wait at least until late September.

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It's a Toronto publication. I think The Toronto Star has a hand in it. I like their individual player analysis for the most part. It's interesting to read. Sometimes you come upon something you didn't know about a player. But their predictions are always way off.

It's too early for it to come out anyway. They should wait at least until late September.
Agreed. They always seem to be way off when it comes to player stats. However, some points to consider:

- Will Souray and Ryder repeat last year's season statistically speaking?
- Just as much as some of the other teams in the conference were overrated last year, some make actually overachieve this year. I see a real dogfight for that last playoff spot as was the case last year.
- The Habs have not markedly improved personel wise. The only real addition has been Bonk.
- Which Theodore will show up? Is Huet up to the challenge just in case?
- An injury to Ribs makes Dagenais ineffective. Do you think Hossa will pick up the slack? With Ribs potentially gone, the team only has one offensive centre and that's Koivu. The team is still thin at centre and at right wing.
- Kovalev is not a sure thing.
- The defense was hardly peerless last year. There has been no changes made.

I can see why the Forecaster has some doubts.

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Actually the Forecaster is usually fairly good. I'm surprised they would make such a bold prediction about Kostitsyn, particularly in light of last season and his health issues. Sure isn't going to make it any easier for Gainey to sign him. :mad:

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It's a Toronto publication. I think The Toronto Star has a hand in it. I like their individual player analysis for the most part. It's interesting to read. Sometimes you come upon something you didn't know about a player. But their predictions are always way off.

It's too early for it to come out anyway. They should wait at least until late September.
youre right. it is for the most part a toronto publication. I mean the stats they predict are a bunch of junk. They allways overate teams like the leafs and underate teams like the habs our the sens. However I do like this magazine for theire players analisys.

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I also like the Forecasters player analysis and it is one of the tools i use for hockey pools (read one of 2 with THN hockey pool preview too). I've finished second in my keeper league the last two years. Should've been first this year as my roto team was first in 6 of 7 roto categories, but my goaltending sucked (stupid Lalime blew it for me!!).

I agree that their predictions for team placement are always way out of wack, often because they publish way too early and are unable to gauge where FAs go.

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If Ribeiro is injured, the options for filling in are 1) Bonk, 2) Plekanec, and 3) Higgins. Last year there were just Perreault and Juneau. Begin and Dowd (if he comes back) can't supply enough offense and would render Dagenais totally useless.

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