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03-05-2012, 07:54 PM
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At the draft...

Schneider+ to CBJ

for Ryan Johansen



What's your personal preference? Schneider for a high draft pick or a prospect of slightly less pedigree but further along in development?

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03-05-2012, 08:31 PM
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At the draft...

Schneider+ to CBJ

for Ryan Johansen



What's your personal preference? Schneider for a high draft pick or a prospect of slightly less pedigree but further along in development?
We already have Kassian.

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03-05-2012, 09:41 PM
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We already have Kassian.
Defensive Prospect is what we really need. I'd say it's pretty obvious that the big targets of Fowler, Hedman, Larsson and OEL are off the table unless we add big time.

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03-05-2012, 10:59 PM
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Defensive Prospect is what we really need. I'd say it's pretty obvious that the big targets of Fowler, Hedman, Larsson and OEL are off the table unless we add big time.
Yes. I have the feeling we might have to trade up in the draft to get him as well. It seems our depth for the future looks like...

Edler-xxx
Hamhuis-Bieksa
MAG-Tanev
Connauton

We really need a steady partner for Edler in the long-term IMO.

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Yes. I have the feeling we might have to trade up in the draft to get him as well. It seems our depth for the future looks like...

Edler-xxx
Hamhuis-Bieksa
MAG-Tanev
Connauton

We really need a steady partner for Edler in the long-term IMO.
Luke Schenn for Cory Schneider?

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03-06-2012, 01:01 AM
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What's your personal preference? Schneider for a high draft pick or a prospect of slightly less pedigree but further along in development?
If Schneider is the goaltender moved, I'd like to see the Canucks move him for an elite forward prospect that could be used as part of a trade to land a player like Weber -- assuming something like that is available, of course. Otherwise a deal for a young defenseman would be ideal.

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Luke Schenn for Cory Schneider?
Please (insert deity of choice) NO!!!

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Luke Schenn for Cory Schneider?
What is everyone's obsession with Luke Schenn? He seems like a low hockey IQ slug of a player to me.

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03-06-2012, 01:46 AM
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At the draft...

Schneider+ to CBJ

for Ryan Johansen



What's your personal preference? Schneider for a high draft pick or a prospect of slightly less pedigree but further along in development?

I'd love this deal. Johansen's looked great every game I've seen him. IMO he could be a solid, physical 2-way C.

I frankly don't think there are many worthy defensemen available who we could get for Cory.

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At the draft...

Schneider+ to CBJ

for Ryan Johansen



What's your personal preference? Schneider for a high draft pick or a prospect of slightly less pedigree but further along in development?


Couple of things with this:


- MG won't try to acquire another young Centre IMO. Schroeder is in the pipeline and now doing well. They'll give him a shot at 3rd line C before bringing in another option.


- CLB will retain their younger pieces. Schneider at 26 means less to them than Johansen at 21. They will want Schneider without giving up their best young player.


- Teams MG will target for trade are WAS and CAR, like Freidman mentioned. There is something on each team MG likes. Just so happens WAS might be looking for goaltending. Carlson or Faulk maybe?


- Maybe Luongo gets dealt instead? The playoffs are a huge factor here. NTC withstanding, if it is made clear to Luongo that Schneider has secured the #1 job, then Lu will just naturally want out IMO. An unlikely scenario, but not outside reason.

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I agree that a stud young dman would be the best thing to get for Schnieder.

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- Maybe Luongo gets dealt instead? The playoffs are a huge factor here. NTC withstanding, if it is made clear to Luongo that Schneider has secured the #1 job, then Lu will just naturally want out IMO. An unlikely scenario, but not outside reason.
This we can only hope for. I'm not a huge Luongo hater, but I think Cory's upside is ridiculous.

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- Teams MG will target for trade are WAS and CAR, like Freidman mentioned. There is something on each team MG likes. Just so happens WAS might be looking for goaltending. Carlson or Faulk maybe?
If Schneider is dealt, I agree that it will be for a specific targeted player just like MG did with Hodgson. I don't think Columbus has that player. I've heard people like Lebrun comment on how Hedman isn't an outrageous price to ask for Schneider. It won't be a surprise to anyone we'll be looking for a dman in return. I'd love Alzner from Washington.

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Looking back at some old proposals, Bleach Clean basically "predicted" MAG would be dealt to Vancouver

Are you a wizard?

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Looking back at some old proposals, Bleach Clean basically "predicted" MAG would be dealt to Vancouver

Are you a wizard?

Nope. MAG just made sense to add. Take a look back at how a certain poster (who shall go nameless) basically raked me over the coals for suggesting it. Quite a good read IMO.

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03-06-2012, 03:23 AM
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Nope. MAG just made sense to add. Take a look back at how a certain poster (who shall go nameless) basically raked me over the coals for suggesting it. Quite a good read IMO.
Looking back at that...

Do you expect GMMG to push for Carle again in the off season? He won't be as expensive as say, Wideman, and he would pair up next to Edler quite well.

Or does the emergence of Tanev/trade for Gragnani make such a move redundant?

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Looking back at that...

Do you expect GMMG to push for Carle again in the off season? He won't be as expensive as say, Wideman, and he would pair up next to Edler quite well.

Or does the emergence of Tanev/trade for Gragnani make such a move redundant?


I don't think Tanev and MAG affect the need for a top4 this offseason. They are both bottom pairing dmen. MG should make Carle an offer. Just as he should make Jason Garrison an offer. If he can get either one, he stabilizes his D in the event of Salo walking.


I still think Ballard could easily be dealt for good pieces, say to a team like NYI. Or another team that has trouble signing free agents.

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Looking back at that...

Do you expect GMMG to push for Carle again in the off season? He won't be as expensive as say, Wideman, and he would pair up next to Edler quite well.

Or does the emergence of Tanev/trade for Gragnani make such a move redundant?
He should be stuck on the 3rd pairing next year. Give him a whole year without extra pressure or responsibility. We don't want to get caught without a top pairing D if Tanev is struggling.


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I don't think Tanev and MAG affect the need for a top4 this offseason. They are both bottom pairing dmen. MG should make Carle an offer. Just as he should make Jason Garrison an offer. If he can get either one, he stabilizes his D in the event of Salo walking.


I still think Ballard could easily be dealt for good pieces, say to a team like NYI. Or another team that has trouble signing free agents.
If reports were accurate that NYI was looking to deal with us for Ballard, but all they were offering up were draft picks I think we'll take the deal in the draft.

Something like 2nd in 2012, 2013 and a 4th in 2012.

We'll need to stock up the picks when we go after Weber.

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Man. I really wish we could get someone in to help out with our goaltender's decision making and passing. Oh wait. Turco's on waivers. Maybe we should bring him in as an unofficial goalie coach?

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What is everyone's obsession with Luke Schenn? He seems like a low hockey IQ slug of a player to me.
Not an obsession.

I see two teams with abundance of assets each team could use. Vancouver needing a right side Dman who plays a more shut down style, but not look out of place in our transition game.
Schenn is still raw, and his development curve hasn't been exciting, but he brings size with physical play, is young enough to groom, but has the experience to stay in the NHL.

Since Toronto doesn't have a true starter, and Cory is about set to take a position as starter.

Going around the league, I don't see a big abundance of available defensemen. I don't see any Western conference teams helping us out any time soon.

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Pittsburgh has alot of defensemen as well. NHL ready as well as prospects. Don't have much knowledge about them though.

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I don't get the obsession over Hedman. He really isn't that good.

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I don't get the obsession over Hedman. He really isn't that good.
Its really just 'cause he's big, can hit and always said to be the next pronger but an even better skater. Dmans do take a while to develop so its unknown rather or not he lives up to his billing.

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I don't get the obsession over Hedman. He really isn't that good.
He's a puck mover, not a pure offensive guy. Goals and assists wouldn't tell you Tanevs good.

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I don't get the obsession over Hedman. He really isn't that good.
If Hedman can be as good as Edler, I think that would still be a win.
Though his cap hit is a bit steep for someone who hasn't proven much.

I am willing to admit the same for Schenn, but the least, his is more managable, while also falling under the cap structure in place.


Possibly out to lunch with this idea, Washington approaches you with Wideman's rights for Raymond's rights, but we get a conditional 3rd if Wideman doesn't sign.
Negotiate around 4.5 million by 3 years maybe.

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