These constant never going to happen trade threads really piss me off.
Wow... I guess it does not take much to "piss you off".
I just thought if Vancouver could get a younger player, one will less damage and mileage, one who is the best in the game at his position for a player just coming off hip surgery...
How do you propose winning the cup without Kesler? We have no forwards capable of winning battles up front outside of him and to a lesser extent burrows and Higgins
I just did not see Kesler do much in the playoff - minus the Nashville series. I also see a player with a ton of bumps and bruises, coming off hip surgery...
I agree, it leaves a hole, but if you can get a younger player, higher ranked at his position for Kesler, I take it and then try and fill the 2nd line by trading Cory S and future draft picks.
Like I said, 2 years from now we can look back and I bet Weber is by far the better player over that time.
Having said that, everyone disagrees with me so maybe I am wrong.
I'm gonna go with the fact Gillis isn't the type to pull a 'Jeff Carter' on Ryan Kesler by trading him after he signed a big contract, and before his movement clause kicks in.
Reality aside, I still don't do it...we're already wondering if our offense is good enough, and youngish power centres don't exactly grow on trees.
Weber is a great player, but I wouldn't trade Kesler for him. It would make our defence stronger, but our 2nd line would become even weaker. A lot of Canucks fans are hoping for Kesler to get a better winger and trading him doesn't help. Also, Kesler means a lot to the team and the Canucks fans, so I don't see him going anywhere.
i agree with the comments that the defensive gain does not out weigh the impact it would have on our offense to be a good trade. We'd have to move Edler for a top 6 centre pretty much right away and they are a scarcity.
Also, with Weber's 7.5million reward, it would create a bit of discomfort in the dressing room with two art ross winners and a hart winner making that much less than him.
if weber comes it will be through free agency in two years.
Good value but doesn't make us better. We'd go from having the 2nd best center depth in the league to the bottom 10. And our defence is already one of the best. No need to deal a weakness (if you can call our offence that) for a strength.
I just did not see Kesler do much in the playoff - minus the Nashville series. I also see a player with a ton of bumps and bruises, coming off hip surgery...
I agree, it leaves a hole, but if you can get a younger player, higher ranked at his position for Kesler, I take it and then try and fill the 2nd line by trading Cory S and future draft picks.
Like I said, 2 years from now we can look back and I bet Weber is by far the better player over that time.
Having said that, everyone disagrees with me so maybe I am wrong.
It was just a thought.
Did you watch the playoffs? It's not all in the stats, man.
I disagree. Kesler, minus the Nashville series, was a less then steller in the playoffs. Add in the bad hip (there is no guarentee he is ever the same again)...
If you can get the best D-Man in the league straight up, I think you take it and then trade Cory S to shore up the 2nd line.
Kesler had the same surgery on his other hip in 2007. He wasn't only "the same again", he was better.
Saying he might not be the same after his procedure is like saying your appetite might never be the same again after a bout of the flu.
I disagree. Kesler, minus the Nashville series, was a less then steller in the playoffs. Add in the bad hip (there is no guarentee he is ever the same again)...
If you can get the best D-Man in the league straight up, I think you take it and then trade Cory S to shore up the 2nd line.
His butterfly style goaltending will never be the same.
Even if they were signed to exact contracts I wouldn't trade Kesler for Weber. but considering Kesler is signed for 5 more years at 5 million per and Weber is only signed for one more year at 7.5 million, there's not a chance I would make the trade.
