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Lol no way would Buffalo do that. And another lol @ the people claiming Ribiero is a top 15 center. So you're telling me, you'd take Ribeiro over one of Henrik Sedin, Sidney Crosby, Steven Stamkos, Pavel Datsyuk, Joe Thornton, Nicklas Backstrom, Ryan Getzlaf, Brad Richards, Jonathon Toews, Anze Kopitar, Mikko Koivu, Ryan Kesler, Mike Richards, Evgeni Malkin, Vincent Lecavalier, Eric Staal, Jason Spezza, etc etc etc? Then there's the people who aren't necessarily clearly better than Ribiero but you can still argue with picking them over Ribiero like David Krejci, Patrice Bergeron, Thomas Plekanec, Paul Stastny, Derek Roy, etc etc?
Dallas says yes and laughs all the way to the bank
No they don't. We have 0 need for Pomminville, and I don't want to trade Ribeiro for picks and prospects. Our centers after this trade are Benn and Ott/Fiddler. It's a deal that doesn't make any sense for either team.
Can't be the same old ignorant "diver" excuse because people grew up and realize that was years and years ago right?
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Nah man ... we have our own diver in Roy...... Rebeiro just doesn't impress me ... not my type of Center .. No need to get defensive .. I just don't want him on the Sabres and especially don't want to give up what the OP suggested....
Excuse my ignorance but when did Rebeiro ever become a top 15 center?
He's not a sexy name to most but over recent seasons he has produced like a top 15 center. The numbers don't really tell the whole story though as his main asset is his ability to be a threat to score/create a scoring chance every time he hops over the boards. People get too caught up in ranking players and bashing ones that don't rank higher on these ever-evolving lists. Ribeiro is a very good player and there are very few teams in this league who would not be better with him in their lineup.
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Originally Posted by BewareoftheBear
And no Buffalo doesn't do this, Ribeiro is getting up there in age and Buffalo isn't in a strictly win now mode, Miller is still pretty young for a goalie and most of their forwards and d core is relatively young.
Up there in age? Dude is what, 31? His game, which is built on puck protection and offensive creativity, not speed, should age fairly gracefully until his hands fail him.
He's not a sexy name to most but over recent seasons he has produced like a top 15 center. The numbers don't really tell the whole story though as his main asset is his ability to be a threat to score/create a scoring chance every time he hops over the boards. People get too caught up in ranking players and bashing ones that don't rank higher on these ever-evolving lists. Ribeiro is a very good player and there are very few teams in this league who would not be better with him in their lineup.
Up there in age? Dude is what, 31? His game, which is built on puck protection and offensive creativity, not speed, should age fairly gracefully until his hands fail him.
He sounds like an older version of Leino (or what Leino could be) IMO. Wouldn't give up that much for him.
Just for the past 4 seasons. Don't worry about staying current though.
This proposal had me shaking my head at first but I'll admit I didn't know he'd been been putting up those numbers the past few seasons. It's still overpayment on Buffalo's end, though.
I want nothing to do with Ribeiro at all. He's cut from the same cloth as Roy and I don't even really like having Roy on our team, let alone an older version of him. Both players strike me as the type who play for the stat sheet as opposed to ones who play to win. In the case with Roy, his linemates always seem to disappear when he's the one playing well and I attribute that to him playing his own style of hockey instead of Ruff's system. It's no coincidence that Vanek and Stafford really started to come into their own when Roy went down for the season last year.
Both players strike me as the type who play for the stat sheet as opposed to ones who play to win.
I can't speak to Roy at all but Ribeiro is one of the more competitive players on the Stars. He has the occasional coasting shift but all in all he's a guy who plays hard and competes, especially along the boards. There's a misconception about him that he's a super soft player; he goes to the tough areas and will absorb a hit to make a play.
Can't be the same old ignorant "diver" excuse because people grew up and realize that was years and years ago right?
Buffalo needs more size and grit in their top 6. Don't get so defensive if another poster doesn't want your player. Besides, even if Ribeiro was available, the difference between him and Pominville isn't even a first in an apparent deep draft, let alone adding Luke Adam.
Was reading an article about the most overrated players and Ribeiro was picked as Dallas' most overrated player.
Anyone without respect for the game of hockey will praise Mike Ribeiro for his offensive abilities and his impact on the game in all three zones.
The more intelligent hockey fans realize that Mike Ribeiro will always be a diving, gutless player incapable of forechecking or handling his responsibilities in the defensive zone.
The lack of respect Ribeiro has shown for the game of hockey over the years makes him deserving of less than half of the respect he receives across the league.
Was reading an article about the most overrated players and Ribeiro was picked as Dallas' most overrated player.
Anyone without respect for the game of hockey will praise Mike Ribeiro for his offensive abilities and his impact on the game in all three zones.
The more intelligent hockey fans realize that Mike Ribeiro will always be a diving, gutless player incapable of forechecking or handling his responsibilities in the defensive zone.
The lack of respect Ribeiro has shown for the game of hockey over the years makes him deserving of less than half of the respect he receives across the league.
Quick question... were you the author of that article?
HAHA... I found the article.... I guess Ryan Miller is also overrated. HAHAHA
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Ribeiro is a top 15 center and commands a hefty return, Pominville is a consistent 65 point Two Way RW, Luke Adam just won AHL Roty and is projected as a 2nd line center, and a 1st is nice in a deep draft.Is this a good return for Ribeiro?
i know of no universe where ribeiro is a top 15 or even a top 30 center. i suppose he is a decent second line guy if you dont care if your team is gutless and not going to win anything of consequence when the games matter
im no fan of buffalo, but there isnt a chance in hell id touch this deal even if i hated them. if a gm did make this deal, he should be fired and never allowed to gm ever again
No way. I'd take Pominville 100 times out of 100 if had to choose between him and Ribiero. Poms is better at even strength than Ribeiro, more goals per game, better defensively, a better PK'er, and he doesn't have the reputation of being a cowardly diver. I'd much rather pay the extra $300k and take the 10 less points and keep Pominville if my only other option was Mike Ribiero. Having to also throw in Adam and a 1st make this proposal absurd beyond belief.
i suppose he is a decent second line guy if you dont care if your team is gutless and not going to win anything of consequence when the games matter
What is your definition of "win anything"? When the Stars went to the WCF in '08 it was due in no small part to Ribeiro's play. Yeah, he's no Cup-winner but he is a hell of a better player than a "decent second line guy."
The ignorant vitriol spewed in this guy's direction has reached comic proportions on these boards.
