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08-08-2011, 12:12 PM
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I'm not up on the prospects of any teams besides the Bruins, but they sure do have some great forward prospects. The D prospects are pretty good as well, the problem is that they have Hamilton as a top pairing prospect and a lot of 2nd and 3rd pairing prospects.
lolwat.

Hamilton projects as a top pairing guy but everyone else at best is a 7th/depth defenseman, though Alexandrov could be a PP specialist one day. The Bruins have quantity but not a whole lot of quality with our D prospects

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08-08-2011, 12:30 PM
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lolwat.

Hamilton projects as a top pairing guy but everyone else at best is a 7th/depth defenseman, though Alexandrov could be a PP specialist one day. The Bruins have quantity but not a whole lot of quality with our D prospects
Bruins have quantity but I would be surprised if someone of a McQuaid caliber doesn't eventually pop out from among that crowd, and I like McQuaid. Besides that they have 4 solid D-men of the future in McQuaid, Chara, Seidenberg, and Hamilton. Depending on how Corvo does I feel he may be a solution. So your looking for an ideal second pairing D-man and I think a trade/someone from our group will pop up.

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08-08-2011, 12:35 PM
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This conversation has a lot of merit. Several individuals have pointed out the immense organizational depth the B's have at D, but only two or three of those are legitimate top-4 projectables. As much as I'd be loathe to part with one of our biggest offensive prospects, Caron/Spooner/Knight/Khokhlachev/Sauve - I'd do it in a heartbeat for a second defensive bluechipper, preferably someone with significant offensive upside...

Caron+ for Ellis makes me drool a bit. I'd probably throw in a secondary offensive prospect (Hamill or Cunningham come to mind) and one of our ten-or-so middling defensive prospects to make the deal fit.

It's doubtful Gormley would be on the table, but again, I'd be willing to part with a significant chunk of our organizational strength to grab him... the B's were reportedly very high on this kid going into the 2010 draft, and I have no doubts they would like a chance at grabbin him.

Assuming Blum and OEL are out of the picture, and assuming the 'Yotes and Preds are interested in some of what Boston has to offer, Boston would be undoubtedly extremely interested in these young defenders.

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08-08-2011, 01:06 PM
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Weber for Krejci. That or nothing from Nashville, since we're apparently going to need all of those prospects.

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Would the Bruins prefer a D prospect who was close to being ready or still has a ways to develop?

The Yotes have D prospects at every stage. OEL and Gormley are very unlikely to move. But guys like Chris Summers or Max Goncharov are available and nearly NHL ready. The Yotes are pretty deep on wing too, so the return would likely have to be a center.

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08-08-2011, 01:10 PM
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Done. Caron would be a nice addition to build the forward corps around. Along with Wilson its a lot nicer than it would be without him. Ellis is expendable for use with Blum, Rosi and COR (although he took a small step back last year). It's hard to deny Ellis' skill and he would certainly make a nice future tandem with Hamilton on the Bruins.

It's a swap that makes a lot of sense actually. They were both drafted in the same draft year and are only two months apart in age. Both are near NHL ready. Both would fit a need on the other team.
yeah, the preds or yotes just make perfect trading partners right now

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It seems to me that the OP is suggesting a prospect swap more than a swap that would include guys like Yandle, Bergeron, Krejci, etc.


I'm not up on the prospects of any teams besides the Bruins, but they sure do have some great forward prospects. The D prospects are pretty good as well, the problem is that they have Hamilton as a top pairing prospect and a lot of 2nd and 3rd pairing prospects.

It would be hard to give up a forward prospect like Spooner without getting a D-man prospect who has a better than good chance at being a top pairing type of player.

Since I am not sure about other teams prospects I don't really have any idea for a proposal, I just know I wouldn't be happy about Spooner going anywhere.
yeah, i should have specified that i intended for a prospect swap, or maybe giving up one of kelly or pevs (although i don't know what the return would be).

I would be willing to give spooner up for ellis or josi. I'm pretty sure nashville fans are higher on josi right now, so maybe ellis would make more sense. but we just have too many middling d-men prospects, which although far from being longshots to make the nhl, they are reaches to become impact core d players.

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08-08-2011, 01:12 PM
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Would the Bruins prefer a D prospect who was close to being ready or still has a ways to develop?

The Yotes have D prospects at every stage. OEL and Gormley are very unlikely to move. But guys like Chris Summers or Max Goncharov are available and nearly NHL ready. The Yotes are pretty deep on wing too, so the return would likely have to be a center.
i don't how good summers or goncharov are, but i was thinking maybe the b's could pry gormley, although i know we would really have to pay.

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Weber for Krejci. That or nothing from Nashville, since we're apparently going to need all of those prospects.
i think you guys could benefit more from a higher end forward prospect than keeping all of your embarrasment of riches at D.

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lolwat.

Hamilton projects as a top pairing guy but everyone else at best is a 7th/depth defenseman, though Alexandrov could be a PP specialist one day. The Bruins have quantity but not a whole lot of quality with our D prospects
The B's organization has a lot of defensemen, that's certain. But even though outside of Hamilton there's not a lot of top talent, in the depth there's considerable strength and many with bottom-pairing potential. Arguing that all we have are eventual depth defenders (after Hamilton) is just inaccurate.

#1/All-Star Potential
Hamilton
First-Pairing Potential
<none>
Second-Pairing Potential
Button
Cross
Bottom-Pairing Potential
Alexandrov (this season in PRO is pivotal to assessing his potential)
Bartkowski
Cohen
Warsofsky
Chudinov
Cantin
7th/Depth Defensemen
Bodnarchuk

And this isn't including guys like Trotman and O'Gara, who are 3+ years from the NHL, and whose potential might be second-pairing (but are still so far away it's hard to accurately describe what they might become)

Of course there's a very GOOD chance that a significant portion of these young men don't meet their potential, but there's a lot of real talent and NHL upside to these young blueliners and unless the B's defensive system becomes a logjam, you'll see at least several of these guys on NHL bluelines before you know it.

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lolwat.

Hamilton projects as a top pairing guy but everyone else at best is a 7th/depth defenseman, though Alexandrov could be a PP specialist one day. The Bruins have quantity but not a whole lot of quality with our D prospects
Alexandrov is probably 6-10 on the D prospect chart in my opinion. I see a lot more guys who could play in a 4, 5, 6 spot. I don't see 1,2, or 3 d-men besides Hamilton. If you don't think the Bruins have guys better than a #7 I think you are really underestimating the d prospects they do have. That's my opinion.

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The B's organization has a lot of defensemen, that's certain. But even though outside of Hamilton there's not a lot of top talent, in the depth there's considerable strength and many with bottom-pairing potential. Arguing that all we have are eventual depth defenders (after Hamilton) is just inaccurate.

#1/All-Star Potential
Hamilton
First-Pairing Potential
<none>
Second-Pairing Potential
Button
Cross
Bottom-Pairing Potential
Alexandrov (this season in PRO is pivotal to assessing his potential)
Bartkowski
Cohen
Warsofsky
Chudinov
Cantin
7th/Depth Defensemen
Bodnarchuk

And this isn't including guys like Trotman and O'Gara, who are 3+ years from the NHL, and whose potential might be second-pairing (but are still so far away it's hard to accurately describe what they might become)

Of course there's a very GOOD chance that a significant portion of these young men don't meet their potential, but there's a lot of real talent and NHL upside to these young blueliners and unless the B's defensive system becomes a logjam, you'll see at least several of these guys on NHL bluelines before you know it.
Where is Kampfer?

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Where is Kampfer?
Not a prospect as far as I'm concerned given the fact that he won't be a rookie in 2011-12.

Placing him within the confines of my previous argument, I'd probably put him in the "second pairing potential" group, though he could probably just as easily slide into a fifth or sixth defenseman role if he doesn't continue to develop at the NHL level.

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i don't how good summers or goncharov are, but i was thinking maybe the b's could pry gormley, although i know we would really have to pay.
To get Gormley it would probably take Spooner and Knight. While it seems like fair value, still not sure either side would be willing.

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08-08-2011, 09:45 PM
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From Boston I would offer as much as Spooner and a third for Ellis.

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Am I the only one who would preffer a deal for Josi rather than Ellis?

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I agree with the guy who said Hamill for Ross

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David Poile hoards our prospects, although apparently he was ready to trade Ellis to Boston at the draft if Couturier had been available at #9, so I would think if you had a cant miss winger prospect you could possibly get one of our many cant-miss defensive prospects.
That would have been an excellent trade for both teams.

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Am I the only one who would preffer a deal for Josi rather than Ellis?
from a nashville or boston perspective? cause everything i read about josi makes it seem like he may be even better than ellis, so from a boston side i would definitely think about that.

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