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08-08-2011, 04:59 PM
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Well, he's exactly the type of player a team needs to win a cup. Blue collar - experience - productive with and without the puck. And he's near the end of his career. Makes too much sense.
Which makes him most likely to be dealt around the trade deadline this year- should the Coyotes fail to make the playoffs, that is.

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08-08-2011, 05:43 PM
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No way the Kings trade Bernier for Doan.

I'd do Stoll, Jordan Weal and a 1st for Doan and Tikhonov or Hextall.
No way I'd trade a frist for him Id rather trade a goalie. Havn't the King fans learnt there lesson on tradeing picks for veterns on the downwards of there carrer. How many more time does it take.

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08-08-2011, 05:51 PM
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To the ops...

As you are a Vancouver fans looking for a forward.

Why not making a similar thread, but with Schneider as the auctioned player ?

As Montreal fans, im already willing to start the bidding with a low offer''
I might in the future. Fact of the matter is there are only a few teams that need a young goalie. Tampa, Phoenix, NJ (maybe), ? Not even sure if there's anyone else.

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From a Sharks' perspective:

1st Round 2012
Justin Braun (D)
2nd Prospect (Phoenix's choice)

I would also add a conditional element in the (unlikely) event that they could convince Doan to re-sign.

I know Braun doesn't address the need for a C, but he's the Sharks' top prospect; and this scenario is based on the idea that the Coyotes are so far out of it that they're going for a full rebuild. In that scenario, an extra young, cheap PMD would at least make good insurance/trade bait.

As for the second prospect - honestly, there are probably better options on other teams. The Sharks have a bunch of goalies, but the only one ready now is Thomas Greiss; the others aren't likely any closer than Visentin. If they wanted a forward, the most ready are McGinn and Ferriero, who will both be playing in the Sharks bottom 6; Brandon Mashinter is Clowe-ish, and might also be ready. But as I said, I wouldn't object to any prospect the Coyotes wanted.
A lot of value there. Going in the original post.

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08-08-2011, 06:15 PM
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I still say Schnieder and Raymond for Doan and Labarbera (coming from a closet Vancouver fan who's avatar is Doan...)

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Jonathan Bernier and a 3rd
Haha.. I don't think the Kings offer that at all, actually. It should be removed from the offers list, in most Doan threads LA fans have stated they're unsure whether they want to move Bernier yet.

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08-08-2011, 06:26 PM
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Haha.. I don't think the Kings offer that at all, actually. It should be removed from the offers list, in most Doan threads LA fans have stated they're unsure whether they want to move Bernier yet.
Well its true alot of the kings fans don't want to move jb but they almost always say unless it makes us alot better. With Doan the Kings are cup contenders this year. It would shore up our top nine. Yes we would loose a great goalie propect but the risk /reward is acceptable to me. The kings have depth in the goalie spot to replace him for the 20 -25 games he ll play

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The Doan-Filppula proposal is actually one of the better proposals I've seen on this board.

Doan is exactly the type of player Holland likes, would trade for, and that would help the team in needed areas - size, grit, strength.

Filppula on the other hand always seems to do better when he's playing a more prominent role on a team. For whatever reason - and its not necessarily the ice time - he produces more when relied upon to be more than secondary scoring.

The only thing I see holding this trade back is simply Doan's commitment to the Phoenix organization, and Holland's possible reservations about trading for Doan, only to have Doan jump back to Phoenix in July.

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08-08-2011, 06:41 PM
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Well its true alot of the kings fans don't want to move jb but they almost always say unless it makes us alot better. With Doan the Kings are cup contenders this year. It would shore up our top nine. Yes we would loose a great goalie propect but the risk /reward is acceptable to me. The kings have depth in the goalie spot to replace him for the 20 -25 games he ll play
I understand that, but this is an auction thread that should consider the majority of the fan base. From what I've seen, Bernier and a pick is not acceptable to Kings fans. You would represent the minority.

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08-08-2011, 06:52 PM
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well I'd be curious to see how the majority of fans would feel if my proposal would be accepted. Alot of Kings fans said they didnt want to trade Scheen or Simmonds now the majority are loving the trade. I will admit when i frist thought of the trade there was only a offer of the van backup goalie and a 3rd My offer was intended to see if the person thought Jb and the same 3rd was a better offer but i also think its a fair one.

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well I'd be curious to see how the majority of fans would feel if my proposal would be accepted. Alot of Kings fans said they didnt want to trade Scheen or Simmonds now the majority are loving the trade. I will admit when i frist thought of the trade there was only a offer of the van backup goalie and a 3rd My offer was intended to see if the person thought Jb and the same 3rd was a better offer but i also think its a fair one.
There is no way that Dean would trade Bernier, let alone coupled with a draft pick. Doan is a great player, but this just isn't the type of deal that the Kings are going to pull the trigger for. Reaper's deal is a little closer to the mark.

The Kings are not trading any of the goalies this year. Please quit trying to trade Bernier.

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"Doan" deal..


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I would love Doan on the Devils. He epitomizes that Devils hockey was, is and will always be about.

But what would the Coyotes want in return for him? Maybe....

Zubrus (top-6 center/winger)+Gelinas (solid D prospect)+WSH 2nd for Doan+4th work?

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Doan is the last thing la needs to compete for the cup. To me it makes more sence to give up one goalie which we have 5 more in the system then our frist pick and a forward who is a top 6 potential something we have very few of. This is my frist time ever suggesting to trade him I think hes a future star but in order to get doan and a damn good shot at a cup id do it. I think people also said the same thing about scheen if i remember and simmonds Only trade them to upgrade us I think this would be true How could u not love this for a top 9

penner kopi william
gagne richards brown/doan
clifford stoll doan /brown

that is a 3 line team that can score
Jb would get into what maybe 25 games and thats pushing it. I think jones could handle 20 games just fine

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08-08-2011, 08:50 PM
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Pominville and a second rounder from Buffalo to start with, maybe? Add a serious sweetener a la McNabb if the Sabres look like a legit contender at that point.

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Pominville and a second rounder from Buffalo to start with, maybe? Add a serious sweetener a la McNabb if the Sabres look like a legit contender at that point.
Im not going to add that because Pominville is better than Doan.

On my phone. Sorry cant elaborate

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These are better than mine and more realistic.

I would not pay this much for Doan as a deadline acquisition but I think it's closer to his value on the market

I do think the first offer is a bit much though. Replace one of Regin or Foligno with a prospect or Z. Smith.
I like Smith more than Regin so that might be where our disagreement is stemming from.

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I like Smith more than Regin so that might be where our disagreement is stemming from.
Meh, I hear ya. I don't even necessarily disagree. I just see Regin as the higher end talent, potential-wise. So basically, you're trading a top 6 prospect instead of a bottom 6 prospect.

Either way though, I think we are in agreement generally about value. Your offer is not far off from what Pittsburgh gave for Hossa - pretty equivalent actually. That's, however, what makes me think it's a bit much as Doan is not Hossa...

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WTF kind of offer is that? Phoenix only does it if you add your 2032 4th rounder

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I still say Schnieder and Raymond for Doan and Labarbera (coming from a closet Vancouver fan who's avatar is Doan...)
I'd be very reluctant to move both Schneider and Raymond for Doan, if Doan was signed for longer term I'd do it without thinking twice, but say Vancouver doesn't win the cup with Doan, and Doan also doesn't re-sign that would mean Vancouver would be giving up a 40 point two-way winger, and arguably the best goalie prospect in the league for pretty much nothing in the grand scheme of things.

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I understand that, but this is an auction thread that should consider the majority of the fan base. From what I've seen, Bernier and a pick is not acceptable to Kings fans. You would represent the minority.
So what should be the criteria to make an offer valid ?

''According to the majority of the fan'' seem vague to me.

Of course we have to take it for what it is: a game.

But maybe we could bring this concept to another level by putting some standard into it.

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WTF kind of offer is that? Phoenix only does it if you add your 2032 4th rounder
Yeah, it's supposed to be bad....

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I'd be very reluctant to move both Schneider and Raymond for Doan, if Doan was signed for longer term I'd do it without thinking twice, but say Vancouver doesn't win the cup with Doan, and Doan also doesn't re-sign that would mean Vancouver would be giving up a 40 point two-way winger, and arguably the best goalie prospect in the league for pretty much nothing in the grand scheme of things.
schneider, raymond, 2nd round pick for doan, boedker

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schneider, raymond, 2nd round pick for doan, boedker
You keep Raymond, we Keep Boedker. Call it good.

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You keep Raymond, we Keep Boedker. Call it good.
Deal.
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schneider, raymond, 2nd round pick for doan, boedker

I'd be interested in something like that, but I highly doubt the Yotes do that.

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