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08-08-2011, 11:52 PM
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Hrmmm this guy could possibly be the next Zach Parise in 5 years...i would take a chance on him.

To Nashville: Nick Palmieri+David Clarkson+5th
To Devils: Colin Wilson

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Hrmmm this guy could possibly be the next Zach Parise in 5 years...i would take a chance on him.

To Nashville: Nick Palmieri+David Clarkson+5th
To Devils: Colin Wilson
A center is going to be the next Zach Parise? Hmm, okay... (and lol at you'd take a 'chance' on him.)

If I had a dragon every time I heard "this guy could possibly be the next Zach Parise", why, I could rule all of Westeros with my fleet my dragons.

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08-09-2011, 03:07 AM
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A center is going to be the next Zach Parise? Hmm, okay... (and lol at you'd take a 'chance' on him.)

If I had a dragon every time I heard "this guy could possibly be the next Zach Parise", why, I could rule all of Westeros with my fleet my dragons.
The guy plays LW/C and quit crying...

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08-09-2011, 04:06 AM
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makes no sense for the preds.

they and the devils are pretty much carbon copies of each other in terms of organization strengths, except that the devils two best players are wingers while the preds two best are defensmen. other than that they're pretty much the same. mostly inconsistent and unproven offensively, prospect pool that is weak offensively but has a lot of solid d-men.

unless nashville is trading one of their all star d-men for one of the devils' all star lw'ers (ie weber for parise), they aren't good trading partners.

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08-09-2011, 07:09 AM
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Wilson is a prospect that is valued by his team more than other teams, which makes him tradeable only in some package which would involve Parise.

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Wow, really? Thanks for your wisdom, oh great one.
Wtf is up your ass?

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Wilson is a prospect that is valued by his team more than other teams, which makes him tradeable only in some package which would involve Parise.



Wtf is up your ass?
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It's simply a matter of not trading for someone at the mid-end of his projected ability when you could nurture him to that or better at 0 loss.

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Wow, really? Thanks for your wisdom, oh great one.
I'm not really sure why you're attacking me for what I think many would agree is a valid opinion. You even said something to the same effect yourself:

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Nor are we trading our only capable center. We could rid ourselves of Parise, because we still have Kovalchuk. Behind Zajac, there is nothing but question marks.
Parise is unlikely to be moved because he is a franchise calibre player. But we have another franchise calibre left wing. We do not have another top 6 centre, and no, Josefson doesn't count yet, and Elias isn't really a centre. That makes Zajac damn near invaluable to the Devils, and therefore even less likely to move than Parise.

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Wilson is a prospect that is valued by his team more than other teams, which makes him tradeable only in some package which would involve Parise.
Correct. Same reason why guys like Zajac and Clarkson won't be moved. They have more value to the Devils than to any other team.

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08-09-2011, 12:09 PM
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Value-wise thats great for the Devils, however, our strength in the prospect pool is Defense, not offense. if we had drafted Couturier or Hubredeau instead of Larsson then i'd do it, but with our D looking very good in the coming years thats, just not a deal we can make.
Did you just say you wouldn't trade for the most dominant shut down pairing in the league because you just drafted an offensive defenseman?

Only on hf....

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Nashville will not send wilson to anywhere unless it's for Parise or a similar forward. I truely believe Wilson will be the bait for a Parise trade (along with a bunch of other young players).

If Anything, it might be just Wilson, Lindback, and a pick for Parise.
That was my point. Parise for Wilson, Lindback and Blum?

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Wow, really? Thanks for your wisdom, oh great one.

Hell, let's just make a blockbuster:


Parise
Zajac
Urbom
2012 1st round pick


Weber
Suter

Predators get that offense that they clamor for. Devils become defensive juggernauts, just like in the glory days. Win win for everybody...

Seems like it'd hurt both teams since one is losing offense, and the other is losing defense. However, I have no doubt both teams would be better off for it. Elias would move to the top line to center; whereas Josefson, Steckel and Henrique can battle for the other spots.

Nashville has more than enough stud defensive prospects to fill the voids. Blum and Ellis come to mind. Then there's also Josi and Roussel. More than enough to keep their d-core afloat.
is this a joke

When does a franchise ever trade its best 2 players

wat

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That was my point. Parise for Wilson, Lindback and Blum?
They are already talking about Lindback being a replacement for Rinne if the Preds were to think about trading one of the big three. Blum is the #3 defenseman and could be higher if it weren't for that pesky Weber-Suter wall.

I believe it will be Wilson, Lindback, and a Conditional 1st. Most of HF will say MORE! but HF values are always twisted.

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That was my point. Parise for Wilson, Lindback and Blum?
That's more than what it took to get Kovalchuk. Parise is good, but shouldn't be worth more than Kovalchuk. Blum is going to be a stud. He came in looking like a true #4 defenseman in his first game, and only got better. Not only that, but we need to hang on to the guy just in case something happens with one of Weber or Suter.

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If Patrik wasn't such a loyal soldier in the Devils army that would be a tough offer for me to say no to. Elias is 35 coming off a great year which he had over 60 points. He also has a 6 million dollar caphit and getting a young power forward like Wilson would surely help solidify our future.

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A center is going to be the next Zach Parise? Hmm, okay... (and lol at you'd take a 'chance' on him.)

If I had a dragon every time I heard "this guy could possibly be the next Zach Parise", why, I could rule all of Westeros with my fleet my dragons.
What the hell is your problem? You claim to be a Devils fan and belittle literally everyone on our board.

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is this a joke

When does a franchise ever trade its best 2 players

wat
Wat?

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What the hell is your problem? You claim to be a Devils fan and belittle literally everyone on our board.


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Terrible trading partners, at least on HF.

Nash fans have always prided themselves on overrating Weber/Suter, and Devils fans have always prided themselves on vastly overrating Zajac.

All three are so untouchable that even Crosby on an ELC wouldn't be good enough. Good grief.

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And did they not receive substantial criticism from all 30 fan bases, including their own? The Flyers board was in meltdown that week.

Plus, you could argue that Pronger is better at what he does than Carter and Richards are at what they do.

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Terrible trading partners, at least on HF.

Nash fans have always prided themselves on overrating Weber/Suter, and Devils fans have always prided themselves on vastly overrating Zajac.

All three are so untouchable that even Crosby on an ELC wouldn't be good enough. Good grief.
Hyperbole is fun!

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Terrible trading partners, at least on HF.

Nash fans have always prided themselves on overrating Weber/Suter, and Devils fans have always prided themselves on vastly overrating Zajac.

All three are so untouchable that even Crosby on an ELC wouldn't be good enough. Good grief.
What do you want for Vlasic?

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That Weber and Suter proposal was the funniest thing I've ever seen. As good as Parise is, that is the most one-sided deal since Milbury times.

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They are already talking about Lindback being a replacement for Rinne if the Preds were to think about trading one of the big three. Blum is the #3 defenseman and could be higher if it weren't for that pesky Weber-Suter wall.

I believe it will be Wilson, Lindback, and a Conditional 1st. Most of HF will say MORE! but HF values are always twisted.
We need a defenseman coming back. Ellis?

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Terrible trading partners, at least on HF.

Nash fans have always prided themselves on overrating Weber/Suter, and Devils fans have always prided themselves on vastly overrating Zajac.

All three are so untouchable that even Crosby on an ELC wouldn't be good enough. Good grief.
No one is overrating anyone here. All Devils fans are saying is we cannot trade Zajac unless an upgrade at center is coming back. We have no one else that can replace his role on the team.

And Nashville fans have every right to ask for a lot for Suter/Weber. They are both amazing defenseman who would be most teams #1 go to defender.

Ideally, if Parise were to sign an extension, I think the best trading partners for the Devils would be the Kings.

Parise (signed to an extension)

Johnson, Bernier, and a 1st or a good prospect.

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