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08-09-2011, 03:38 PM
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No one is overrating anyone here. All Devils fans are saying is we cannot trade Zajac unless an upgrade at center is coming back. We have no one else that can replace his role on the team.

And Nashville fans have every right to ask for a lot for Suter/Weber. They are both amazing defenseman who would be most teams #1 go to defender.

Ideally, if Parise were to sign an extension, I think the best trading partners for the Devils would be the Kings.

Parise (signed to an extension)

Johnson, Bernier, and a 1st or a good prospect.
On HF Boards, taking into consideration the value of a player to his current team is overvaluing Like Lindback. He isn't all that valuable on the trade market, but to Nashville he is pretty valuable considering he has shown he can at least be solid in the NHL while Pickard, the next goalie in line on the depth chart, has taken steps back.

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What do you want for Vlasic?
I'd rather keep Vlasic because we are set on defense, I would prefer to offload one of our many bottom pairing guys.

A young top 6 with potential would be a decent return for a young top 4 with potential.

Should have asked for Demers.

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We need a defenseman coming back. Ellis?
I'd do Ellis. He would be a better fit with NJ because of his PPQB ability.

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Hmmm.. I'd take Blum and Wilson for Parise.

Nashville might want more though since they seem to think Blum will be a soon stud.

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Hmmm.. I'd take Blum and Wilson for Parise.

Nashville might want more though since they seem to think Blum will be a soon stud.
No, just switch Blum with Ellis/Ekholm/Josi. Im hesitant on Josi though, think he will be the best of the bunch

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Hmmm.. I'd take Blum and Wilson for Parise.

Nashville might want more though since they seem to think Blum will be a soon stud.
I'd easily let Blum go if it meant Parise coming back the other way.

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I'd rather keep Vlasic because we are set on defense, I would prefer to offload one of our many bottom pairing guys.

A young top 6 with potential would be a decent return for a young top 4 with potential.

Should have asked for Demers.
Oh, what's the matter? You don't want to trade Vlasic?

Well we don't want to trade Zajac and the Preds don't want to trade either one of their D-men, so don't give us crap about overrating our players.

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Wilson + Ellis + 2013 1st

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Parise?

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Wilson + Ellis + 2013 1st

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If Parise verbally agreed to an extension. Id be game, given the 1st wont be to high. Most likely. May add a piece



Im a Wilson fan boy. Notice the name. So its hard for me to let go

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Oh, what's the matter? You don't want to trade Vlasic?

Well we don't want to trade Zajac and the Preds don't want to trade either one of their D-men, so don't give us crap about overrating our players.
Big difference, while I don't want to trade him, I can still be rational about what he's worth. You can pretend I'm a hypocrite all you want, you know it's not true.

There's a big difference between not wanting to trade a player and vastly overvaluing him.

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Big difference, while I don't want to trade him, I can still be rational about what he's worth. You can pretend I'm a hypocrite all you want, you know it's not true.

There's a big difference between not wanting to trade a player and vastly overvaluing him.
There is also a difference between vastly overvaluing a player, and wanting to see a return that fits your team's needs coming back for a player that is a superstar (Weber) or a huge part of your team (Weber, Suter, Zajac). People fail to grasp that just because fans on a discussion board don't want a particular return, or say it isn't a good one, doesn't mean they want more. It means the pieces don't help the team.

We don't want to trade Weber or Suter. If we have to trade one of them we want holes that exist in our team to be filled. We don't want bluechip prospects who have tons of potential, or picks, or a defenseman coming back. If you see that as overvaluing then no one is going to change your mind. I see it as attempting to discuss a potential trade while keeping in mind the needs of the team.

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Hmmm.. I'd take Blum and Wilson for Parise.

Nashville might want more though since they seem to think Blum will be a soon stud.
Took the words right out of my mouth.

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Oh boy, here we go.

We're not giving up our 60+ point center for a guy that can still plummet. We're not trying to rebuild...

Zajac only leaves if an equal or better #1 center is coming the other way. Head out the cloud.
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Well why would we trade a player that has the potential to be as good as Zajac even better for something less? We need scoring. Were not trading one of only offensive players.
these two posts should have ended the thread.

preds wont trade away offense, unless we get a WHOLE LOT more offense(so, Parise).

we will trade defense for offense.

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Wilson + Ellis + 2013 1st

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Parise?
from nashville's perspective, i would take one of the prospects out and add something a little less valuable unless we thought there was a high chance of parise re-signing. i'm sure if lou traded parise, he would let the other team talk first, but otherwise i think that's a bit too much of a risk for nashville.

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