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08-12-2011, 09:28 PM
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Some like, some don't...



According to this: http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Julie...night/99/37517

Or...
If he develops his dad's mean streak and fighting abilities not many will want to mess with him.

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Very encouraging! He has lots of time on his side!

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lol dude, just because he's 220 at 6"6 doesnt mean it feels like 170 when someone gets hit

its still, 220 pounds.

240 might make him too slow if anything.
Tyler Myers is 6-8 225.

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Tyler Myers is 6-8 225.
I'm shocked at how many of you don't understand weight. How is it that Hal Gill can weigh more than Pronger but is apparently smaller (less thick)? There are alot of factors in weight. Bone density, muscle, fat, etc weighs different from one individual to another. You may see one guy who's 5'10 and 190 next to anothe guy who's 5'10 and 190 and the two will be a completely different size. What we should be more concerned about is his strength (particularly in his core and lower body). Benoit Pouliot is what? 6'3 200? Look at how frail he looks in a tshirt compared to any other guys his weight.

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Weight has little to do with physicality.

Take a look at guys like Ryan White (6', 193) or Ryan Callahan, one of the best hitters in the league (5'11'', 185-190). It's all about your aggressiveness and grittiness.

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I allowed myself to daydream for less than a minute, then I snapped out of it.

Dude! Why would you torture yourself like that...
I know! Ever since last year I just can't let go of this dream of landing Iginla

You know what though whatever I wouldn't want to lose Weber anyways No doubt Weber/Tinordi two players I'm very high on would be in the package.

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Some like, some don't...



According to this: http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Julie...night/99/37517

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Your second quote is exactly what I am envisioning. That famous nasty D who the fans have been craving for a decade. This guy is gonna be a T-REX for us

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Is a lock to make the team now, since Jones is a 94 born? Also Jesus the American defense is huge.
You have obviously never seen Seth Jones play hockey.

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You have obviously never seen Seth Jones play hockey.
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Julie...lacid/99/37559

According to her, Tinordi seems to have a good chance to make it. Except for a bad first game, he played well and was a terror on the ice. Something USA will need.

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It feels reaaalllyy good of simply having good news about a Habs 1st rounder instead of the usual constant whining we have on this board. For those ranting about Tinordi's penalty minutes, I would rather try to tam a mean mofo then trying to ask a soft player to play a mean game.

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It feels reaaalllyy good of simply having good news about a Habs 1st rounder instead of the usual constant whining we have on this board. For those ranting about Tinordi's penalty minutes, I would rather try to tam a mean mofo then trying to ask a soft player to play a mean game.
Definetly! Just look at O'Byrne or Gill. You can't turn a softie into a mean machine. You either are or not.

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Well if he makes this team....that would be outstanding. All of the players at that camp are big time prospects. I think even the fact that he made the 1st cuts (which he didn't do last year) shows that he has improved and has to be considered a strong prospect. He is a big tough rugged defender and his game is going to translate better into the NHL style...but being chosen for an international tournament would be great.

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Definetly! Just look at O'Byrne or Gill. You can't turn a softie into a mean machine. You either are or not.
That's why people are expecting too much from Olesiak in that sense.

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It feels reaaalllyy good of simply having good news about a Habs 1st rounder instead of the usual constant whining we have on this board. For those ranting about Tinordi's penalty minutes, I would rather try to tam a mean mofo then trying to ask a soft player to play a mean game.
Just like Scotty Bowman had to tame Larry Robinson to get everything out of him

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Definetly! Just look at O'Byrne or Gill. You can't turn a softie into a mean machine. You either are or not.
O'Byrne was known as a hard hitting dman when he was a prospect...

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O'Byrne was known as a hard hitting dman when he was a prospect...
Was he?

I remember when Komisarek signed with Toronto and the guys on TSN were talking about how he was a good powerplay option.

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Aside from Chara (who is a freak of nature) all those other players are nothing more than, at most, average skaters. I want Tinordi to still be able to somewhat agile on his skates.
Just a thought but I wonder if it would be worth while for him to train with some Basket Ball players of similar size. I agree with you on the mobility so maybe some of the exercises and drills they do to increase speed and agility could be transferable. Anyone know if this has been attempted before?

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If the kid has 1/10 the balls his dad did... haha



No fear in this guy.

Then Jarred here getting some nice hits on Shaw


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I know! Ever since last year I just can't let go of this dream of landing Iginla

You know what though whatever I wouldn't want to lose Weber anyways No doubt Weber/Tinordi two players I'm very high on would be in the package.
The Habs might put in a bid for Iginla when he's put on waivers.

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O'Byrne was known as a hard hitting dman when he was a prospect...
And he got lots of hits in Colorado. He played lots of minutes with good results (few points, up there in hits/minute, decent plus/minus, on a bad team).

Have to see how he does in the playoffs. Martin seems to feel that young players who can't deal with semi-rational benchings can't take pressure. I guess he wants guys with unshakeable confidence like Subban, and unlike O'Byrne, Pouliot, Latendresse, etc.

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O'Byrne was known as a hard hitting dman when he was a prospect...
Never heard of that. Don't care either. Rather relly on what I see than what I ear and I saw a softie with no mean streak in him.

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And he got lots of hits in Colorado. He played lots of minutes with good results (few points, up there in hits/minute, decent plus/minus, on a bad team).

Have to see how he does in the playoffs. Martin seems to feel that young players who can't deal with semi-rational benchings can't take pressure. I guess he wants guys with unshakeable confidence like Subban, and unlike O'Byrne, Pouliot, Latendresse, etc.
Hitting do not = mean

O'Byrne had as many hits with the Habs (look at the stats) as with the Avs. Did he look mean with the Habs? Not at all.

Lapierre hits a lot but is not mean at all.

O'byrne is not mean by nature. You can tell by his play.

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Was he.
He was, in his Freshman year he would run around trying to hit everything. Cornell has one of the better coaches in the NCAA imo, and they worked with him to get to
tone it down a bit. He was suspended a couple times for hits from behind.

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Never heard of that. Don't care either. Rather relly on what I see than what I ear and I saw a softie with no mean streak in him.
I saw him a lot at Cornell and interviewed the coaching staff at Cornell, he was no softie then. Even in Hamilton this wasn't the case. He had over 180 Pims in 100 games with Hamilton in his first two seasons.

It never translated to the NHL but it could have been a lack of confidence, he never really seemed to play his game here.

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I still think OB will stick in the NHL and become a serviceable D worth acquiring at some point. He'll likely be a guy who some teams will go after once UFA. He has size and just needs little more NHL time. I know he's old already but whether you enter the NHL at 20 or 28 you need time to adjust and grow as a player.

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After looking at the list of D that made the cut, I'd assume that Tinordi's chances are high of making the team since Jones will have just turned 17 for the tourney, and Murphy just got seriously hurt. I'd say that as long as he doesn't regress in his development from now till the next camp, he should be a lock.

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