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08-11-2011, 03:56 PM
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Pesonen:

"Winnipeg was interested about me and I'll go there to battle with goal to get one way deal"

"I like NA style and I believe I could have something to give there"


http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/jaakiekko...treenileirille

Time for the NANANANANANANAAAA

Those uniforms look as though NSCAR drivers decided to play hockey.

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I'm not too sure about him making the NHL either but I do remember that Pens never gave him a real change. He played with top end talent for maybe 2 or 3 shifts, mostly he played carbage minutes in the 4th line - which is the worst place to be for a offensive guy like Pesonen.
All I remember is that he shied away from contact hockey and that was what hurt his chances a great deal in Pittsburgh. You can't shy away from that at the NHL level. It's expected. He's very one dimensional. Players like that do not go far in this league.

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08-11-2011, 04:23 PM
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You never know, he could become the next Ville Leino.

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08-11-2011, 04:24 PM
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You never know, he could become the next Ville Leino.
Ville Leino has layers to his game. He's an NHL product. Janne is a prolific scorer, but he needs to be able to play defence and not be afraid to take a hit and dish one out from time to time.

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08-11-2011, 04:26 PM
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You never know, he could become the next Ville Leino.
The funny thing is that he had a crazy scoring race in FEL with Leino in 07-08 - and won it

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08-11-2011, 04:32 PM
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I am sure he worked more rounding out his game with WBS and probably took to being more physical. Someone has to unearth the old posts from the Penguins forum. Who knows, maybe he does better his second go-around. He knows what is needed to make the big jump to the NHL and stick more-so this time around than his time with Pittsburgh.

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The funny thing is that he had a crazy scoring race in FEL with Leino in 07-08 - and won it
Since you're big into the Fins, what is your take on Teemu Pulkkinen?

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Since you're big into the Fins, what is your take on Teemu Pulkkinen?
He's just another one-dimensional offensive player. The Holy Slapper, good offensive insticts (underrated vision and passing) but only mediocre skater, smallish and physically a bit underdeveloped. I do believe that he'll get his changes in the NHL, he's a top end talent after all, bigger than Pesonen for example.

Edit. He's not your prototype NHL-forward but if he can change his game into NA-style, he's projected to be a top 9-forward and a PP-specialist. His shot is phenomenal.



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He's just another one-dimensional offensive player. The Holy Slapper, good offensive insticts (underrated vision and passing) but only mediocre skater, smallish and physically a bit underdeveloped. I do believe that he'll get his changes in the NHL, he's a top end talent after all, bigger than Pesonen for example.
I notice he takes a long time to wind up those "holy slappers" of his. That hesitation, and time span it takes him to wind up, could cause a dman to knock him on his ass or poke check the living poke check out of him. He's only 19 so I assume he can refine is game a lot more to be suitable for the NHL game.

I heard he was injured the year he was drafted and that's why he was taken 111th overall.

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08-11-2011, 05:01 PM
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I heard he was injured the year he was drafted and that's why he was taken 111th overall.
Yep, he was a consensus top 10-pick before the serious injury. And I agree on what you said on his slapper but I think he can change that for sure. And it's not like he only has his slapper, wrist shot is very good too. Like I said, he's good offensively and it includes hands, vision, passing, shooting...

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Yep, he was a consensus top 10-pick before the serious injury. And I agree on what you said on his slapper but I think he can change that for sure. And it's not like he only has his slapper, wrist shot is very good too. Like I said, he's good offensively and it includes hands, vision, passing, shooting...
So you see a top line position in his future?

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08-11-2011, 05:23 PM
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Pesonen is a phenom, but he didn't fit the pittsburgh system and wasn't quite ready for a top6 role in the nhl, something he could easily be ready for now

on another note, all of the games he played in the nhl were under Michel Therrien who is a massive stickler for defense and pesonen probably wasn't ready for the physicality that type of style required at the nhl level, on a less defensive system, see any team except new jersey, he certainly has a shot, i'll give him about a 66% of making the team out of training camp

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Pesonen is a phenom, but he didn't fit the pittsburgh system and wasn't quite ready for a top6 role in the nhl, something he could easily be ready for now

on another note, all of the games he played in the nhl were under Michel Therrien who is a massive stickler for defense and pesonen probably wasn't ready for the physicality that type of style required at the nhl level, on a less defensive system, see any team except new jersey, he certainly has a shot, i'll give him about a 66% of making the team out of training camp
Why not round it off and make it a healthy 70 percent? I see your 66 percent and go with 33 percent that he makes the team. He's not cut out for a bottom six role in the NHL and I just don't know if he has what it takes to get into our top six and stick.

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Why not round it off and make it a healthy 70 percent? I see your 66 percent and go with 33 percent that he makes the team. He's not cut out for a bottom six role in the NHL and I just don't know if he has what it takes to get into our top six and stick.
idk if he has what it takes for the jets top 6, but it's definitely a team that is going to need some secondary scoring from the 3rd line, I could easily see him being the 7th forward sitting on the 3rd line, especially as there is 3 solid centers going into the season not including scheliefe, i could easily see the 3rd line being more of a softer but skilled 2 way line, instead of the hardcore canadian style 3rd line grinding line, but that's just me, i don't see the jets as a top 6 bottom 6 team

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idk if he has what it takes for the jets top 6, but it's definitely a team that is going to need some secondary scoring from the 3rd line, I could easily see him being the 7th forward sitting on the 3rd line, especially as there is 3 solid centers going into the season not including scheliefe, i could easily see the 3rd line being more of a softer but skilled 2 way line, instead of the hardcore canadian style 3rd line grinding line, but that's just me, i don't see the jets as a top 6 bottom 6 team
Yeah I had discussed earlier with another guy in some other thread that it maybe in our best interests to roll out 3 scoring lines and distribute the minutes appropriately. Who knows it may work with Pesonen.

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So you see a top line position in his future?
top line or bust is my take becouse his skating and defense sucks ass.

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top line or bust is my take becouse his skating and defense sucks ass.
Players on the top line usually don't suck at skating these days..

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Just because Pesonen didn't fit with the Pens doesn't mean he can't play in the NHL.

Leino didn't make an impact on the biggest hidden-gem-finding team in the NHL and it wasn't until he was traded to the Flyers that he broke out.

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If we're going to invite 29 y/o never were's ... maybe we could consider some of these guys:

Jeff Taffe (check out his AHL stats - give him a shot!)

Antti Miettinen (has good AHL-NHL stats; good enough to play for the Finnish olympic team!)

Marek Svatos (might still have something left in the tank, no longer injured)

I would think each one could make this team

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IIRC, Miettinen and Svatos signed in the KHL.

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Just because Pesonen didn't fit with the Pens doesn't mean he can't play in the NHL.

Leino didn't make an impact on the biggest hidden-gem-finding team in the NHL and it wasn't until he was traded to the Flyers that he broke out.
Yes it does Running Riot! IT ABSOLUTELY MEANS THAT!

Of course it doesn't, but he just doesn't seem to have the tangibles to stick as an effective scoring forward in this league. I am just saying if he couldn't cut it from a year leading Finn season on a team in need of a scorer like the Pens so desperately need. Sure they since got James Neal, but most of their forward talent is down the middle. Their wingers leave much to be desired. Chris Kunitz, meh... half decent second liner who is heading to band-aid boy territory. Pascal Dupuis who was used as a regular winger on Sidney Crosby's line. Third line material he is, first line? Heck no. Neal didn't do so hot either, but he also had Mark Letestu a 4th line player and a very lazy and lethargic Alex Kovalev (with his best years clearly behind him) as the opposite winger on that line, so we'll see if things change with a healthy 87 and 71 in the lineup. btw I think I over explain things.

Point is once upon a team as great as the Pens are post 05/06 season they have lacked offensive depth, especially on the wings. Pesonen couldn't win a spot in the lineup, and yes, he was under Thierren's system, which was defence first.

Claude Noel is all about the complete players. He coaches a blue collar system. Good news, we have just that! A blue collar team with some filthy rich white collar owners. hehe I just dunno.

I mean, I don't know.

I clearly don't know.

Nope, don't have a clue.

Cockadoodoo... clue.

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Those uniforms look as though NSCAR drivers decided to play hockey.
Hope the NHL never bows to the pressures to put advertising on jerseys. Our friend Bob McCowan has talked about this several times on his show and says it's only a matter of time.

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He has decent vision and he's a pretty good playmaker in the AHL, but he's small, soft and not a great skater. Reminds me of a lot of other AHL stars that couldn't take the next step. And that's based on watching him play a lot in the AHL, not just his stint in Pittsburgh.

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Im in. I hope he makes the team.

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If he's got above average shootout ability, he'd be nice to have around for those close extra point games.

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