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08-09-2004, 02:04 PM
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Biron awarded 2.8 mil.

As per Howard Simon on the SIMONCAST.


EDIT: It's a 1 year deal for 2.8 million.

He will be on the show today around 2:30.


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Walk away.

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So in arbitration Biron=Kim Johnsson. That is curious, but I think I would rather have Johnsson.

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08-09-2004, 02:19 PM
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I am not sure what to think of Biron at 2.8...

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tsn reporting it as well...

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp...16&hubName=nhl

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That is curious, but I think I would rather have Johnsson.
So would the Sabres.

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Biron is a quebecer, he deserves it.

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Biron is a quebecer, he deserves it.
$2.8 million Canadian wouldn't be bad.

BTW, I don't see any chance the Sabres will walk away from the award.

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BTW, I don't see any chance the Sabres will walk away from the award.
Neither do I...wishful thinking is all.

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BTW, I don't see any chance the Sabres will walk away from the award.
Unfortunately, neither do I. It's a one year deal, so they'll probably suck it up and sign him as opposed to risking losing him for (next to) nothing. As soon as the first starter falls to injury, though, Darcy better put down the toy soup can with the strings on the end of it and pick up the real phone on his desk...

In regards to walking away, one scenario would make sense to me. That would be running with "the other first round goalie", and using the cash to sign Zhitnik. Who's the more valuable piece to the puzzle at this time- Zhitnik or Biron? I can see giving Zhitnik a 27% raise. I'm having trouble justifying Biron's increase....


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if the Sabres decide to deal him, if Noronen and Miller prove to be a capable tandem in the coming season, what kind of value do you think that Biron will have?

there aren't many teams looking for a starter at all... and with guys like Weekes and Osgood still on the UFA market along with a few others who could sign for cheap (like Potvin), and goalies like Cechmanek who could be available cheap, who aren't making much less now than Biron, I think a $2.8mill Biron has little market value out there.

It might make more sense for the Sabres to just walk away from this award... not that I think they will... but it's not going to be easy to deal him for anything worthwhile in this market, under a new CBA, and at those $$.

maybe it actually is worthwhile for the Sabres to talk to Weekes... if he signs cheap - and he might considering he's been sitting out without much interest... they could sign Weekes for half what Biron was awarded - or close to half - and walk away from Biron... they are roughly the same age, and both have strong upside.

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maybe it actually is worthwhile for the Sabres to talk to Weekes... if he signs cheap - and he might considering he's been sitting out without much interest... they could sign Weekes for half what Biron was awarded - or close to half - and walk away from Biron... they are roughly the same age, and both have strong upside.
I was thinking about Weekes the other day. I like him alot as a bonafide stopper, but it wouldn't make much sense to cut Biron loose only to go out and fetch another guy to man the crease. Letting Biron find another team would be a way of rectifying the clustermess that is the Sabres goaltending situation/saga.

If Noronen and Miller both prove unworthy, then go find another goalie.

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Pfft, right on the border of what I'd live with and what I'd consider "walk away" territory. Figures. I have trouble giving $600K raises to players that haven't actually gotten any better. At least Hecht and Dumont have improved. Take it and I've gotta believe this is Marty's last chance. At that kind of money it has to be.

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I was thinking about Weekes the other day. I like him alot as a bonafide stopper, but it wouldn't make much sense to cut Biron loose only to go out and fetch another guy to man the crease. Letting Biron find another team would be a way of rectifying the clustermess that is the Sabres goaltending situation/saga.

If Noronen and Miller both prove unworthy, then go find another goalie.
definitely safer payroll wise to do that... but the risk is that you then let Biron walk, and then in camp could find out that Noronen-Miller aren't ready to be a combo together... and by that time, Weekes and Biron could be signed.

this way, you sign Weekes, making sure it's a lower contract than Biron got, for insurance if Noronen-Miller isn't ready.

plus, Weekes would still be a RFA next season, so you could deal whichever one you have for something then, hoping that the goalie market gets a little better for sellers by then... right now you basically risk losing an asset for nothing if you walk away.... or in Biron's case, even next season, he'd have to be qualified at $2.8mill to retain his rights - assuming that part of the CBA doesn't change, which I don't think will.

if Weekes is willing to sign for $2mill or less - a big assumption - then I think it's worth it for the Sabres to then walk away from Biron and sign Weekes... they have 48 hrs to find out what Weekes wants though, then they either have to accept Biron's award or walk away.

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Weekes is three years older and has never had a winning record, nor a SV% better than Biron's .913. And Biron has only had worse than that one year. And it was only a .908 SV% that was basically the same as Vokoun's who got more money than Biron. The only advantage Vokoun has over Biron is the fact that he got his team to the playoffs. Or shall I say his team got him to the playoffs. I think, since Biron has had a winning record in two of his three full seasons and a better SV% than both, that he deserves a one year contract. Its not like they are committed to him pass this season. And it gives him one more year to take the No.1 job for good or Noronen or Miller to pass him for good. It makes sense to me. If you walk away from the offer now and Noronen and Miller aren't ready, you could screw yourself. On the other hand if he sucks during his one year contract, you can just not qualify him at the end of the year.

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2.8 Mill for a proven starting goalie in the prime of his carrer isnt bad.

Maybe slightly overpaid but you cant walk away.

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Here's something to consider:

Sign Felix Potvin for $1.5 million
Give Miller a 1-way contract ($1.5 million over 2 years)
trade Biron and Noronen

Potvin was signed for $1.3 million last season. I think he'd take $1.5 million, especially if there were incentives to make a lot more.

Miller should be agreeable to a pay cut to get out of the minors. Give him some nice incentives too if he becomes the starter. I think the pressure of knowing he'll be sent down if he has a bad game is too much.

Biron is tradable at $2.8 million. It would be foolish to walk away for that reason alone. I don't think Noronen has any future with the Sabres. Management just hasn't shown any confidence in him.

That leaves Potvin and Miller in Buffalo and the goalie situation resolved.

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2.8 Mill for a proven starting goalie in the prime of his carrer isnt bad.

Maybe slightly overpaid but you cant walk away.
"proven starting goalie"



WRONG!

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How is he not proven??

He has been a starter for 4 years.

He had a GAA better than league avg and a save % better than league average and Buffalo was below average.

You are expecting FAR too much.

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You are expecting FAR too much.
It's post-Hasek syndrome.

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It's post-Hasek syndrome.
It sure is....

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Biron is proven.....proven that he sucks as a starting goalie. Almost 3 million for this loser?????



The idiots will sign him up though......idiots.


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How is he not proven??

He has been a starter for 4 years.

He had a GAA better than league avg and a save % better than league average and Buffalo was below average.

You are expecting FAR too much.

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The idiots will sign him up though......idiots.
It looks as if the Sabres agreed to honor the arbitration ruling afterall.

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The Sabres were unable to avoid arbitration with goaltender Martin Biron, who had his hearing Friday. The team agreed to the one-year arbitration settlement Monday. Terms were not released, but Biron was paid $2.2 million last season, when he went 26-18-5 with a 2.52 goals-against average.

"Marty had a strong finish to last season and we look for him to solidify into a top NHL netminder," Regier said. "He has experience as a starter in the NHL and we look forward to his continued development in our organization."

The 26-year-old Biron ranked 20th in the league with a .913 save percentage in 2003-04. He recorded three consecutive shutouts in the midst of a franchise-record 221:58 shutout streak during the 2002-03 season.

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I think that Marty has come in to his own, and is only going to get better. I believe he is better than alot of starters around the league, and is going to kick butt this year (hoping there is one). At $2.8 million; he's a steal if he plays 50 to 60 games, and we make the playoffs. He showed what he could do during the stretch run last year.

oh and by the way; Can anyone tell me who holds the record for the franchises shut out streak?
and this with a suspect D?

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