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08-12-2011, 11:51 AM
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Young star forward to Detroit

I'm a big fan of the Red Wings, possibly the biggest one in my region. Although I can appreciate that the Red Wings are a perennial playoff team, I really would like a player to come on the Wings that has some star potential and is around 20 - 25 years olds, preferably a forward. No untouchables.
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I'm a big fan of the Red Wings, possibly the biggest one in my region. Although I can appreciate that the Red Wings are a perennial playoff team, I really would like a player to come on the Wings that has some star potential and is around 20 - 25 years olds, preferably a forward. The untouchables on Detroit's roster are Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Helm, Kronwall, Howard and Smith. Any ''knock-your-socks-off'' trade could include any of thoses, though.

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You're not getting a young star forward without giving up at LEAST one of those untouchables haha.

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I'd like to rephrase that haha They aren't really untouchables, but I don't know if their contracts would be interesting enough. I mean Datsyuk is worst all of his 6.7m right now, but will he still be as valuable in say 3-4 years?

Let's say it's a Datsyuk for Skinner trade (I'm just saying). Would anybody be against that, considering his age and contract? Maybe all of these bad Red Wings trade from a certain poster have corrupted my thinking.

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I'm a big fan of the Red Wings, possibly the biggest one in my region. Although I can appreciate that the Red Wings are a perennial playoff team, I really would like a player to come on the Wings that has some star potential and is around 20 - 25 years olds, preferably a forward. The untouchables on Detroit's roster are Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Helm, Kronwall, Howard and Smith. Any ''knock-your-socks-off'' trade could include any of thoses, though.

Any offers?
What's left? (of any value)

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Detroit doesn't have the pieces to trade for young stars, and if you could get young stars for spare parts on this board the leafs would be loaded.

Their real options are UFAs, redemption projects, and developing in house.

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My opinion is that Detroit has enough star forwards already.

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My opinion is that Detroit has enough star forwards already.
How about trading for a younger one, say Milan Lucic for anyone except defensive prospects? No one's off the table.

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Gotta give to get, you honestly cannot get quality (especially a young star forward) for spare parts. I'd say trading some of the 'untouchables' for a young star forward may be worth it for Detroit to stay playoff competitive in the long run and keep their status as perennial contenders, even if it means a slightly worse team in the short term. Alternatively, as mentioned before, develop in house or lure UFAs.

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How about trading for a younger one, say Milan Lucic for anyone except defensive prospects? No one's off the table.
No. Detroit has had enough success for the past 20 years. Its time for other teams to have a chance.

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Why do you think the wings need a young star forward to an already impressive forward hub? You guys aren't hurting on F or anything, and I don't think ONE more star forward is going to make much of a difference come next spring.

edit: not to mention that if you want a star forward, you're going to need to do an addition by subtraction concept. But that's already been stated, I see.

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Why do you think the wings need a young star forward to an already impressive forward hub? You guys aren't hurting on F or anything, and I don't think ONE more star forward is going to make much of a difference come next spring.
Looking to the future, that's all.

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Looking to the future, that's all.
You guys already have a good prospect pool, stop hoggin' all the good ones.

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Detroit IMO should go after Bogosian. Filpulla +

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I'm a big fan of the Red Wings, possibly the biggest one in my region. Although I can appreciate that the Red Wings are a perennial playoff team, I really would like a player to come on the Wings that has some star potential and is around 20 - 25 years olds, preferably a forward. No untouchables.
Any offers?
Bailey and a 1st for Kronwall

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If DET wants another young star forward, they should just draft them - its what they do best. Given their drafting record, they should trade for as many picks in rounds 5 to 7 as they can, they're bound to get another Datsyuk with that scouting staff they have.

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I thought Detroit's superior drafting and scouting afforded them a limitless supply of these guys?

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Alexander Semin for Johan Franzen straight up

Works out for both teams

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Bailey and a 1st for Kronwall
If it wasn't for the retirement of Lidstrom next season, I'd at least consider it. But since Kronwall is, IMO, our second best defensemen, that would be a regressing move.

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I thought Detroit's superior drafting and scouting afforded them a limitless supply of these guys?
their isa huge difference between drafting well and deliberately sucking year in and year out so as to assure top 10 picks in the first round.

that said, like everyone has mentioned you cant get without giving and detroits pressing need is more of a stud blueliner as lidstrom cant play forever.

that means smith and kronwall arent available as we desperately need them, zetterberg is our future captain and datsyuk is the 2nd best player in the world behind only crosby. after that anyone is available..

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Your best bet is the draft, hope you can get a young stud later on. There aren't too many young potential stars that become available, and if there are Detroit would likely be outbid. You'd be better off trading for boom or bust prospects that are thought to be NHL ready soon. A guy like Filatov, for example, would be a guy I could see Detroit targeting. Another is Jordan Schroeder out of Van. The problem is, these guys usually arent available for picks. Detroit is in win now mode, so I don't see such a deal happening.

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I thought Detroit's superior drafting and scouting afforded them a limitless supply of these guys?
It does, unlike Toronto's. But since DET is so deep with actual developed NHL talent, there is no room to throw many of these guys in right away, and when they do it takes awhile to crack the Top 6. I think OP was looking for someone young that has name recognition. It is difficult being a DET fan around draft time because you know they probably aren't even going to draft in the first round. Would be fun to draft some 18 year old that makes the squad right away.

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It does, unlike Toronto's. But since DET is so deep with actual developed NHL talent, there is no room to throw many of these guys in right away, and when they do it takes awhile to crack the Top 6.
I'm certain a genius like Ken Holland can get around these insignificant factors. Can't he?

Didn't seem to affect them before...

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