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Edmonton Needs a Sniper!

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08-09-2004, 04:55 PM
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Edmonton Needs a Sniper!

And a decent center.
Any Offers

Available:
J. Smith
Isbister
Antila
Gordichuk
Maybe some others I'm forgeting

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08-09-2004, 04:58 PM
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The Oilers need a sniper, but I suspect a #1 center is a greater priority. Is Antila still Oilers property? Regardless, it'll take more than spare parts to get a top two lines goal scorer. Jason Smith has significant value, but is creeping nearer to UFA status.

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Poor Edmonton fans...

Try and dump salary, get some younger talent in there that'll last longer. Do what most teams do, when re-building.

Do it correctly this time, and without Kevin Lowe at the helm. It's time to deal Jason Smith, unload his salary.

It's not what players you have, it's what hard working, technically sound players you have. Just look at the Nashville Predators.

Keep the payroll low, develop within, add some pieces at the right price and play a hard forechecking style.

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If that's all Edmonton has to offer then why didn't they take a run at someone like Novoseltsev or Schastlivy when they were traded for next to nothing?

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It's not what players you have, it's what hard working, technically sound players you have. Just look at the Nashville Predators.

Keep the payroll low, develop within, add some pieces at the right price and play a hard forechecking style.
Thanks for your searing insights. I looked at Nashville miss the playoffs quite a few years in a row, which earns higher draft picks, which often translates into improved performance down the road-this is hardly an epiphany for the rest of us.

Edmonton has one of the lowest payrolls in the league already, and plays a hard forechecking style. But your astute commentary speaks for itself.

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Taffe for Smith?
Kolanos for Isbister?
Taffe, Kolanos for Smith + 4th ?

(Not sure what Smith's value is)

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Czerkawski's a ufa.He made a team friendly $800,000 last yr.He'd probably sign for a similar amount to stay in the nhl.He's good for 25 goals.

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Originally Posted by Stevex
Taffe for Smith?
Kolanos for Isbister?
Taffe, Kolanos for Smith + 4th ?

(Not sure what Smith's value is)

Although I do think your trade proposals are reasonable (in terms of value), I'm not sure either Taffe or Kolanos fits EDM's needs for a sniper or a first line center.

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Satan for Jason Smith.

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Thanks for your searing insights. I looked at Nashville miss the playoffs quite a few years in a row, which earns higher draft picks, which often translates into improved performance down the road-this is hardly an epiphany for the rest of us.

Edmonton has one of the lowest payrolls in the league already, and plays a hard forechecking style. But your astute commentary speaks for itself.

aside from our inaugural year, nashville never had higher than the 6th overall pick.

in other words, high enough to make people like you snooty, but not high enough to nab a slam dunk like kovalchuk, nash or lehtonen.

don't take away from that.

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Taffe for Smith?
Kolanos for Isbister?
Taffe, Kolanos for Smith + 4th ?

(Not sure what Smith's value is)
Done Deal for all of them! especially Kolanos for Izzy.

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Just resign Nedved. Under the right circumstances, he can provide you with 30+ goals and roughly a PPG.

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what about bringing CARTER BACK? I know he did well when he played @ oilers?

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Originally Posted by Stevex
Taffe for Smith?
Kolanos for Isbister?
Taffe, Kolanos for Smith + 4th ?

(Not sure what Smith's value is)


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Done Deal for all of them! especially Kolanos for Izzy.
You DO know that Kolanos hasn't been the same since his concussion? So you want to give up an injury prone Isbister for a younger, consussed player?

And Smith for Taffe? Taffe is an unproven centre prospect. How does this address our needs for a NUMBER ONE centreman?

These deals do NOT help address the needs for a Sniper or a #1 cman. The assets you listed were pathetic too. Kristian Antilla?

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What would Edmonton(and even Buffalo) fans think about this trade proposal.

To EDM:
Miro Satan, Tim Connolly, pick/Bartovic

To BUF:
Eric Brewer, Jesse Niinimaki

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Connolly has lost his value, pick/Bartovic isn't worth giving up Niinimaki
Satan close to UFA right, kind of worthless to Edmonton if they only have him for 1 or 2 seasons

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Really huh? Well what sniper do you hope to get with your roster, Satan can put 80 points. Connolly has lost value, but that's not the point, you need a center with 1st line potential, and all you have are prospects, he could flourish in a new environment. And Niinimaki is there just to protect in case Connolly becomes a 80 point guy, so that Buffalo doesn't get ripped into pieces in a Brewer deal. You have Schremp and Pouliot also, you're stacked on center prospects. Just my opinion on the reason I did the trade.

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What would Edmonton(and even Buffalo) fans think about this trade proposal.

To EDM:
Miro Satan, Tim Connolly, pick/Bartovic

To BUF:
Eric Brewer, Jesse Niinimaki
let's look at the pros and cons:
pro - satan can score
pro - connolly might find his game in a fast tempo environment

con - satan will walk away from the oil in a couple years
con - satan only shows up for half the games each year
con - no brewer = more icetime for cross...
con - i don't need to list any more cons after pointing out the cory cross thing

in fact, the "more icetime for cory cross" thing pretty much ensures this proposal gets two thumbs down from me.

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Thanks for your searing insights. I looked at Nashville miss the playoffs quite a few years in a row, which earns higher draft picks, which often translates into improved performance down the road-this is hardly an epiphany for the rest of us.

Edmonton has one of the lowest payrolls in the league already, and plays a hard forechecking style. But your astute commentary speaks for itself.
We were also an expansion team.....What did you expect? Us to make the Playoffs in the first year or two? We never got the chance to draft no. 1 overall....and usually picked 6/7th or after, so your statement seems kind of strange to me. Now, if we were an established team, with a fanbase/farm system/prospect pool to boot, I could understand, but when you start a team from other teams scraps.....what do you expect? It usually takes 5 years for a draft pick to get up to par in the NHL, and guess what..year 5 we were dangerously close to the playoffs (1 point behind Edmonton with what 10 games left???) before injuries took out our entire top line. In year 6, we actually did make the playoffs. For a team that never got the true top picks, and selected in the top 5 only once....I would say we are doing quite well .

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aside from our inaugural year, nashville never had higher than the 6th overall pick.

in other words, high enough to make people like you snooty, but not high enough to nab a slam dunk like kovalchuk, nash or lehtonen.

don't take away from that.
Sigh. Nasville has picked higher than Edmonton in every year but 2004. Hence the use of "higher", which should not be confused with "highest". No need to sound insecure defending your team, Nashville's progress should be a template for all expansion teams: patience and progress.

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I would say we are doing quite well .
So would I-you'll see nothing in my initial post that suggests otherwise. Nashville has two fans that need a little something in the hockey team esteem department.

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So would I-you'll see nothing in my initial post that suggests otherwise. Nashville has two fans that need a little something in the hockey team esteem department.

this from someone who just attributed their success to "high draft picks?"

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You just signed Toby Peterson...the second coming of Jarri Kurri

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