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Capology 2011-2012

Here's what we're looking at. I'll keep it updated as we go when any signings, trades and such occur.

2011-2012 Salary Cap floor: $48 million

2011-2012 Salary Cap limit: $64.3 million


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PositionName2011-122012-132013-142014-152015-162016-17
LWAndrew Ladd4,400,0004,400,0004,400,0004,400,0004,400,000UFA
C/RWNik Antropov4,062,500 4,062,500UFA   
LWEvander Kane3,100,000RFA    
RWBlake Wheeler2,550,0002,550,000RFA   
C/RWBryan Little2,383,3332,383,333RFA   
RWEric Fehr2,200,000RFA    
CAlexander Burmistrov1,500,0001,500,000RFA   
CJim Slater1,000,000UFA    
RWChris Thorburn866,667866,667866,667UFA  
LW/RWTanner Glass750,000UFA    
LWBen Maxwell715,000RFA    
RWRick Rypien700,000UFA    
C/WTim Stapleton525,000UFA    


Defenseman:

PositionName2011-122012-132013-142014-152015-162016-17
DDustin Byfuglien5,200,0005,200,0005,200,0005,200,0005,200,000UFA
DRon Hainsey4,500,0004,500,000UFA   
DTobias Enstrom3,750,0003,750,000UFA   
DJohnny Oduya3,500,000UFA    
DMark Stuart1,700,0001,700,0001,700,000UFA  
DRandy Jones1,150,000UFA    


Goaltenders:

Name2011-122012-132013-142014-152015-162016-17
Chris Mason1,850,000UFA    
Ondrej Pavelec1,150,000RFA    


Total Cap Hit: $47,552,500


Prospects/In the system:

PositionName2011-122012-132013-142014-152015-162016-17
LWJason Gregoire925,000925,000925,000RFA  
RW/LWFredrik Pettersson900,000RFA    
DPaul Postma875,000RFA    
LWCarl Klingberg870,000870,000870,000RFA  
C/WPatrice Cormier854,166854,166RFA   
RWAkim Aliu845,833RFA    
CEric O'Dell768,333768,333RFA   
GEdward Pasquale712,500712,500RFA   
GChris Carrozzi708,333708,333RFA   
DDerek Meech700,000UFA    
DZach Redmond687,500687,500RFA   
DBen Chiarot618,333618,333618,333RFA  
LWKenndal McArdle600,000RFA    
DCody Sol578,333678,333578,333RFA  
DBrett Festerling577,500RFA    
LWMichael Forney566,667RFA    
GPeter Mannino525,000UFA    
C/RWAaron Gagnon525,000525,000UFA   
DMark Flood525,000UFA    
RWSpencer Machecek      
DArturs Kulda      
CRiley Holzapfel      



Unrestricted Free Agents

PositionName
DFreddy Meyer
DJamie Sifers
DNoah Welch
CJared Ross

Restricted Free Agents

PositionName
DZach Bogosian
LW/RWAndrew Kozek
RWIan McKenzie

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I have to admit, I saw the Brett Festerling thing and two things went through my mind....

1. "I thought we sent Brett Sterling to Pittsburgh? He's not a defenseman anyway!"

and then....

2. "Who's Brett Festerling?"

I had to wiki it.

Then again, I get confused anytime someone says "Anthony Stewart." H ave to be reminded that we know him better as Fake Chris Stewart.

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personally... I think this should be stickied!
great job Guerzy

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FORWARDS
Andrew Ladd ($2.350m) / Nikolai Antropov ($4.062m) / Bryan Little ($2.383m)
Alexander Burmistrov ($1.500m) / Evander Kane ($3.100m) / Blake Wheeler ($2.200m)
Sergei Samsonov ($2.533m) / Jim Slater ($1.000m) / Pascal Dupuis ($1.400m)
Patrice Cormier ($0.854m) / Rob Schremp ($0.750m) / Chris Thorburn ($0.866m)

DEFENSEMEN
Dustin Byfuglien ($5.200m) / Ron Hainsey ($4.500m)
Tobias Enstrom ($3.750m) / Johnny Oduya ($3.500m)
Mark Stuart ($1.700m) / Zach Bogosian ($3.375m)

GOALTENDERS
Chris Mason ($1.850m) / Ondrej Pavelec ($1.150m)

BUYOUTS: Donald Brashear ($0.000m)

$11m to work with so you can do what you want with it. Dupuis & Samsonov UFA's. I don't normally do these but, thoughts?

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FORWARDS
Andrew Ladd ($2.350m) / Nikolai Antropov ($4.062m) / Bryan Little ($2.383m)
Alexander Burmistrov ($1.500m) / Evander Kane ($3.100m) / Blake Wheeler ($2.200m)
Sergei Samsonov ($2.533m) / Jim Slater ($1.000m) / Pascal Dupuis ($1.400m)
Patrice Cormier ($0.854m) / Rob Schremp ($0.750m) / Chris Thorburn ($0.866m)

DEFENSEMEN
Dustin Byfuglien ($5.200m) / Ron Hainsey ($4.500m)
Tobias Enstrom ($3.750m) / Johnny Oduya ($3.500m)
Mark Stuart ($1.700m) / Zach Bogosian ($3.375m)

GOALTENDERS
Chris Mason ($1.850m) / Ondrej Pavelec ($1.150m)

BUYOUTS: Donald Brashear ($0.000m)

$11m to work with so you can do what you want with it. Dupuis & Samsonov UFA's. I don't normally do these but, thoughts?
Samsonov was a pretty good hockey player once upon a time. It'd be nice to see him succeed again, just not sure if he has it in him.

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FORWARDS
Andrew Ladd ($2.350m) / Nikolai Antropov ($4.062m) / Bryan Little ($2.383m)
Alexander Burmistrov ($1.500m) / Evander Kane ($3.100m) / Blake Wheeler ($2.200m)
Sergei Samsonov ($2.533m) / Jim Slater ($1.000m) / Pascal Dupuis ($1.400m)
Patrice Cormier ($0.854m) / Rob Schremp ($0.750m) / Chris Thorburn ($0.866m)

DEFENSEMEN
Dustin Byfuglien ($5.200m) / Ron Hainsey ($4.500m)
Tobias Enstrom ($3.750m) / Johnny Oduya ($3.500m)
Mark Stuart ($1.700m) / Zach Bogosian ($3.375m)

GOALTENDERS
Chris Mason ($1.850m) / Ondrej Pavelec ($1.150m)

BUYOUTS: Donald Brashear ($0.000m)

$11m to work with so you can do what you want with it. Dupuis & Samsonov UFA's. I don't normally do these but, thoughts?
I like this kind of view better myself (seeing the lines), but if this is your thoughts on the lines.....

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Samsonov was a pretty good hockey player once upon a time. It'd be nice to see him succeed again, just not sure if he has it in him.
2.5 million for Sansonov?????

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personally... I think this should be stickied!
great job Guerzy
Me too.

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FORWARDS
Andrew Ladd ($2.350m) / Nikolai Antropov ($4.062m) / Bryan Little ($2.383m)
Alexander Burmistrov ($1.500m) / Evander Kane ($3.100m) / Blake Wheeler ($2.200m)
Sergei Samsonov ($2.533m) / Jim Slater ($1.000m) / Pascal Dupuis ($1.400m)
Patrice Cormier ($0.854m) / Rob Schremp ($0.750m) / Chris Thorburn ($0.866m)

DEFENSEMEN
Dustin Byfuglien ($5.200m) / Ron Hainsey ($4.500m)
Tobias Enstrom ($3.750m) / Johnny Oduya ($3.500m)
Mark Stuart ($1.700m) / Zach Bogosian ($3.375m)

GOALTENDERS
Chris Mason ($1.850m) / Ondrej Pavelec ($1.150m)

BUYOUTS: Donald Brashear ($0.000m)

$11m to work with so you can do what you want with it. Dupuis & Samsonov UFA's. I don't normally do these but, thoughts?
Let me help you with the lines...

Ladd-Little-Wheeler
Kane-Burmi/Antro-Dupuis
Samsonov-Antro/Burmi-Schremp/Maxwell/Klingberg
Cormier-Slater-Thorburn

Now, things could change quickly, but as of right now, this is the most realistic. I don't expect to see Schremp on the team next year, and if he is, he will be an extra.

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Me too.

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Thank you very much sir!

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FORWARDS
Andrew Ladd ($2.350m) / Nikolai Antropov ($4.062m) / Bryan Little ($2.383m)
Alexander Burmistrov ($1.500m) / Evander Kane ($3.100m) / Blake Wheeler ($2.200m)
Sergei Samsonov ($2.533m) / Jim Slater ($1.000m) / Pascal Dupuis ($1.400m)
Patrice Cormier ($0.854m) / Rob Schremp ($0.750m) / Chris Thorburn ($0.866m)

DEFENSEMEN
Dustin Byfuglien ($5.200m) / Ron Hainsey ($4.500m)
Tobias Enstrom ($3.750m) / Johnny Oduya ($3.500m)
Mark Stuart ($1.700m) / Zach Bogosian ($3.375m)

GOALTENDERS
Chris Mason ($1.850m) / Ondrej Pavelec ($1.150m)

BUYOUTS: Donald Brashear ($0.000m)

$11m to work with so you can do what you want with it. Dupuis & Samsonov UFA's. I don't normally do these but, thoughts?
Your example did not take into account the new contracts for Ladd, Wheeler, or Bogosian. Here is my attempt:

FORWARDS
Andrew Ladd ($4.500m) / Bryan Little ($2.383m) / Blake Wheeler ($3.000m)
Evander Kane ($3.100m) / Alexander Burmistrov ($1.500m) / Jussi Jokinen ($3.500m)
Spencer Machacek ($0.858m) / Nikolai Antropov ($4.062m) / Anthony Stewart ($0.850m)
Ben Maxwell ($0.850m) / Jim Slater ($1.000m) / Chris Thorburn ($0.866m)
Tim Stapleton ($0.525m)

DEFENSEMEN
Tobias Enstrom ($3.750m) / Zach Bogosian ($2.500m)
Dustin Byfuglien ($5.200m) / Ron Hainsey ($4.500m)
Mark Stuart ($1.700m) / Johnny Oduya ($3.500m)
Arturs Kulda ($0.516m)

GOALTENDERS
Chris Mason ($1.850m) / Ondrej Pavelec ($1.150m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $51,662,499; BONUSES: $2,800,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $7,737,501


I took a guess on the following contracts:

Ladd, Wheeler, Jokinen, Bogosian, Stewart

Assumptions:

Winnipeg is going to be a mid cap team somewhere between 50 and 55 million.

Klingberg and Cormier could benefit from a full year in the AHL.

Machacek, Maxwell, and Stewart earn a spot on the team. (If not it will be filled by UFA's like LaRose, Kopecky, Dupuis, Miettinin, Leino). If this happens, I could see the team trying to deal a guy like Oduya in order to clear up some space to sign a UFA forward. Not because Oduya is that bad, just because there are D in the minors who need a shot, and they would be a lot cheaper.

I put Enstrom with Bogosian because I would really like to see Bogo paired with Enstrom. I know that Enstrom and Buff played together, but I think it would be better for Bogo and the organization in general to get his confidence up. Whomever plays with Buff needs to be a defensive D man to cover for him and Hainsey can do that (or Stuart).


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good job on the post.
Krog's still around? remember watching him with the Moose.

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good job on the post.
Krog's still around? remember watching him with the Moose.
Jason Krog signed with HV 71 in Sweden.

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Let me help you with the lines...

Ladd-Little-Wheeler
Kane-Burmi/Antro-Dupuis
Samsonov-Antro/Burmi-Schremp/Maxwell/Klingberg
Cormier-Slater-Thorburn

Now, things could change quickly, but as of right now, this is the most realistic. I don't expect to see Schremp on the team next year, and if he is, he will be an extra.
I just took capgeek lines as they were so that would probably explain the lines being a bit out of kilt.

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Skimming the numbers, one that stood out was Ron Hainsey and his $4.5M/year contract with 2 seasons left.

Seems like a pretty bloated contract, I've always seen him as a decent top 4 dman, nothing more.

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I just took capgeek lines as they were so that would probably explain the lines being a bit out of kilt.
Yeah it's cool. I was just trying to give people a better outlook on the lines.

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Skimming the numbers, one that stood out was Ron Hainsey and his $4.5M/year contract with 2 seasons left.

Seems like a pretty bloated contract, I've always seen him as a decent top 4 dman, nothing more.
I'm not the biggest fan of his contract either. IMO he's hardly a concern for the team from a CAP standpoint. I know he is solid and brings intangibles that don't show up on the stats sheet. He's also developed into more of a shutdown role. I hope he manages to bring his offensive numbers back up into the 30 point range, while playing solid hard nosed defense.

Winnipeg is in a good CAP situation as it currently stands

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The only reason in my opinion that Hainsey's contract is palatable is because of the budget room this team currently has. I feel confident Hainsey can be a quality asset for this team, but as it stands today he isn't worth near the 4.5 million he's set to earn the next 2 years. That is brutal overpayment UNLESS Ron Hainsey once again begins collecting 35-40 points, logs 20 minutes a night in a top 4 role and continues with his steady defensive play, if he can do that, and I think he stands a chance, then it won't be so bad. Defenseman who can do as such generally get paid quite easily. He simply needs to step up and prove he is worthy of his contract.

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Bob McKenzie reports on the salary cap floor and ceiling for this season.

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TSNBobMcKenzie: I'm told the upper limit of the 2011-12 NHL salary cap will be $64 million. The lower limit, or floor, will be $48 million.

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Bob McKenzie reports on the salary cap floor and ceiling for this season.
It's quite a bit more than the original estimates of 62.4mil. It's almost a 4.5mil increase from the current salary CAP of 59.4mil.

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It's quite a bit more than the original estimates of 62.4mil. It's almost a 4.5mil increase from the current salary CAP of 59.4mil.
In 1995-96, the Winnipeg Jets had a payroll of 20.9 million US. In 2011-12, the Winnipeg NHL Team will have a payroll of 48-64 million US. How times have changed.

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In 1995-96, the Winnipeg Jets had a payroll of 20.9 million US. In 2011-12, the Winnipeg NHL Team will have a payroll of 48-64 million US. How times have changed.
It's the fans that really lose out, we're the ones funding these overpaid athletes and owners.

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In 1995-96, the Winnipeg Jets had a payroll of 20.9 million US. In 2011-12, the Winnipeg NHL Team will have a payroll of 48-64 million US. How times have changed.
Also, when the NHL returned from the lockout, the salary cap maximum limit was 39 million, with the floor sitting at 23 million, I believe.

Now nearing the beginning of the 6th season since returning from the lockout, the salary cap has jumped 25 million, both obviously from the minimum (floor) and maximum (ceiling).

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They should look to control the salary for a while now at this level as the rate it's increasing at will only be bad for the sport.

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They should look to control the salary for a while now at this level as the rate it's increasing at will only be bad for the sport.
Well the thing is, is the cap is tied to league revenues.
The league is making more and more money, therefore the cap rises.

So the only way the cap won't increase is if the league revenues stay flat or even go down.
Which i don't see happening anytime soon.

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