I thought both QBs looked decent. This is Grossman's job to lose IMO, but I think Beck looks like a talented guy. I certainly loved his demeanor in the sideline interview. Very poised and articulate. Guy looks like a leader.
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George McPhee....The Teflon GM. 15 years of failure and counting....
6 - Number of playoff series the Capitals have won since George McPhee took over as General Manager in 1997 (which makes him the third-longest-tenured GM in the League), three of which came in McPhee's first season on the job.
There is no such thing as giving 120%. Just saying.
We all have our opinions on the Skins pre-season performance one way or the other. The main point I would like to highlight is this team looks like an NFL team in the way it conducts itself. The same could not be said about the Skins in the pre-season under Jim Zorn, for me thats enough right now.
Hightower does well in the zone blocking scheme and had some great lateral quickness that i just dont recall seeing from him the desert.
RE: the QB sitch
i thought Beck looked more poised & confident in his decision making and had a palpable "follow me boys - i will lead" vibe going on...
all in all i would suggest a cautious optimism for Skins Nation.
I'm hopeful. If they stay healthy at the key positions they can challenge 8-10 wins. They're well coached and the QBs are both capable but unspectacular.
Jenkins really sucks, because he was looking like an impact player as a rookie; but they didn't have all their eggs in his basket. He was a camp surprise.
Save for maybe a QB, if a player is taken in the 2nd round he will be expected, and counted on, to produce for the team. Jenkins is no exception and the D line took a signficant hit with his loss. I sure hope someone is getting Carriker fitted for shoes that do not produce "significant blisters".
WetHog I am starting to warm to the idea that in a neck and neck battle for the starting QB job, that Beck's mobility may make him the better choice... in the ZBS. After reading lots of debates over the two and a recent post over at ES, I am warming to the idea of mobility over experience. Both can manage the offense, which is the first litmus test. Rex has legs too, while not the fastest, its been tough to see him dragging down the offense for not being able to run a bootleg. Obviously the Shanahan's think Rex can run the offense.
The smaller linemen of the ZBS are less likely to pass protect well than power blockers. Having a more mobile QB makes the setup location more difficult to predict. And the boot action of the zone stretch is more difficult to defend with a more mobile QB. I think that will be a staple pass play.
We know Rex's game, and I want to see what extra mobility can do in the ZBS. Same with the beck 3/4 throwing motion, buying milliseconds of extra time to setup to throw. He cant throw over lineman as easily, pocket passing is probably better done with Rex. I have seen Beck jumping when he throws at times.
I think that Beck will be the starter for game 1 but will stick to my stubborn guns in my unorthodox prediction that we see an awful lot of both this year. Beck will run into a prepared DC that will have a linebacker in place to clean his clock on one of those boots if that is what we need to do a ton of, to be successful.
I think the only "surprise" name to get dumped on the first round of cuts to 80 will be Iron Mike Sellers.
As a Cowboys fan (coming in peace - Caps fan too ) I'll be honest with you...you'll be disappointed. His play started to decline last year. He's a lot slower and now, after surgery in June, he's overweight and out of shape coming into camp. He hasn't played much in the preseason.
I liked AG for the longest time, and still do. Part of me is sad to see him go. he did his job well. He's still a serviceable Center (in fact probably a little better than that), but at 5.5 mil, not worth it. If you can sign him for cheap, he'll fill a role for sure. But if you expect him to be a Pro Bowl C this year, he'll disappoint.
EDIT/PS: You live in Tx but are a Redskins fan? Can't be easy. My sympathies. I grew up in DC but was a Cowboys fan (family from Tx). In fact, I used to work at the old Stadium Store in Wheaton, MD. Redskins souvenir HQ. I got some flak around there you can be sure. GL this year, I hope the locals aren't too hard on you this season.
As a Cowboys fan (coming in peace - Caps fan too ) I'll be honest with you...you'll be disappointed. His play started to decline last year. He's a lot slower and now, after surgery in June, he's overweight and out of shape coming into camp. He hasn't played much in the preseason.
I liked AG for the longest time, and still do. Part of me is sad to see him go. he did his job well. He's still a serviceable Center (in fact probably a little better than that), but at 5.5 mil, not worth it. If you can sign him for cheap, he'll fill a role for sure. But if you expect him to be a Pro Bowl C this year, he'll disappoint.
EDIT/PS: You live in Tx but are a Redskins fan? Can't be easy. My sympathies. I grew up in DC but was a Cowboys fan (family from Tx). In fact, I used to work at the old Stadium Store in Wheaton, MD. Redskins souvenir HQ. I got some flak around there you can be sure. GL this year, I hope the locals aren't too hard on you this season.
It's not as hard as it would've been 15 years ago when the Skins were relevant. Even when we beat the Cowboys, we're more like gnats.
Vick agreed to a whopping six-year, $100 million contract with the Eagles on Monday, with $40 million guaranteed. The 31-year-old Vick could now be in Philadelphia through the 2016 season.
Malcolm Kelly finally got the boot. I haven't been this disappointed in a Skins draft pick since Heath Shuler.
2008 Skins Fans: "Finally! The Skins are finally figuring things out and heading in the right direction! Wide Receivers with some size! 2-0 in the preseason baby!"
2008 Skins Fans: "Finally! The Skins are finally figuring things out and heading in the right direction! Wide Receivers with some size! 2-0 in the preseason baby!"
Its easy after the fact to be critical of players chosen in that 2nd round, but there was a lot of whiffs in that round by a lot of teams:
Second Round
1. (32) Miami - Phillip Merling, DE Clemson
2. (33) St. Louis - Donnie Avery, WR Houston
3. (34) Washington (From Raiders through Falcons) - Devin Thomas, WR Michigan State
4. (35) Kansas City - Brandon Flowers, CB Virginia Tech
5. (36) Green Bay (From Jets) - Jordy Nelson, WR Kansas State
6. (37) Atlanta - Curtis Lofton, LB Oklahoma
7. (38) Seattle (From Ravens) - John Carlson, TE Notre Dame
8. (39) San Francisco - Chilo Rachal, OG Southern Cal
9. (40) New Orleans - Tracy Porter, CB Indiana
10. (41) Buffalo - James Hardy, WR Indiana
11. (42) Denver - Eddie Royal, WR Virginia Tech
12. (43) Minnesota (From Panthers through Eagles) - Tyrell Johnson, FS Arkansas State
13. (44) Chicago - Matt Forte, RB Tulane
14. (45) Detroit - Jordon Dizon, OLB Colorado
15. (46) Cincinnati - Jerome Simpson, WR Coastal Carolina
16. (47) Philadelphia (From Vikings) - Trevor Laws, DT Notre Dame
17. (48) Washington (From Texans through Falcons) - Fred Davis, TE USC
18. (49) Philadelphia - DeSean Jackson, WR California
19. (50) Arizona - Calais Campbell, DE Miami
20. (51) Washington - Malcolm Kelly, WR Oklahoma
21. (52) Jacksonville (From Buccaneers) - Quentin Groves, DE Auburn
22. (53) Pittsburgh - Limas Sweed, WR Texas
23. (54) Tennessee - Jason Jones, DE Eastern Michigan
24. (55) Baltimore (From Seahawks) - Ray Rice, RB Rutgers
25. (56) Green Bay (From Browns) - Brian Brohm, QB Louisville
26. (57) Miami (From Chargers) - Chad Henne, QB Michigan
27. (58) Tampa Bay (From Jaguars) - Dexter Jackson, WR Appalachian State
28. (59) Indianapolis - Mike Pollak, C Arizona State
29. (60) Green Bay - Patrick Lee, DB Auburn
30. (61) Dallas - Martellus Bennett, TE Texas A&M
31. (62) New England - Terrence Wheatley, CB Colorado
32. (63) NY Giants - Terrell Thomas, CB USC
I can only count 6 players out of 32 picked in that round that are/were worth a damn.
Its easy after the fact to be critical of players chosen in that 2nd round, but there was a lot of whiffs in that round by a lot of teams:
Second Round
1. (32) Miami - Phillip Merling, DE Clemson
2. (33) St. Louis - Donnie Avery, WR Houston
3. (34) Washington (From Raiders through Falcons) - Devin Thomas, WR Michigan State
4. (35) Kansas City - Brandon Flowers, CB Virginia Tech
5. (36) Green Bay (From Jets) - Jordy Nelson, WR Kansas State
6. (37) Atlanta - Curtis Lofton, LB Oklahoma
7. (38) Seattle (From Ravens) - John Carlson, TE Notre Dame
8. (39) San Francisco - Chilo Rachal, OG Southern Cal
9. (40) New Orleans - Tracy Porter, CB Indiana
10. (41) Buffalo - James Hardy, WR Indiana
11. (42) Denver - Eddie Royal, WR Virginia Tech
12. (43) Minnesota (From Panthers through Eagles) - Tyrell Johnson, FS Arkansas State
13. (44) Chicago - Matt Forte, RB Tulane
14. (45) Detroit - Jordon Dizon, OLB Colorado
15. (46) Cincinnati - Jerome Simpson, WR Coastal Carolina
16. (47) Philadelphia (From Vikings) - Trevor Laws, DT Notre Dame
17. (48) Washington (From Texans through Falcons) - Fred Davis, TE USC
18. (49) Philadelphia - DeSean Jackson, WR California
19. (50) Arizona - Calais Campbell, DE Miami
20. (51) Washington - Malcolm Kelly, WR Oklahoma
21. (52) Jacksonville (From Buccaneers) - Quentin Groves, DE Auburn
22. (53) Pittsburgh - Limas Sweed, WR Texas
23. (54) Tennessee - Jason Jones, DE Eastern Michigan
24. (55) Baltimore (From Seahawks) - Ray Rice, RB Rutgers
25. (56) Green Bay (From Browns) - Brian Brohm, QB Louisville
26. (57) Miami (From Chargers) - Chad Henne, QB Michigan
27. (58) Tampa Bay (From Jaguars) - Dexter Jackson, WR Appalachian State
28. (59) Indianapolis - Mike Pollak, C Arizona State
29. (60) Green Bay - Patrick Lee, DB Auburn
30. (61) Dallas - Martellus Bennett, TE Texas A&M
31. (62) New England - Terrence Wheatley, CB Colorado
32. (63) NY Giants - Terrell Thomas, CB USC
I can only count 6 players out of 32 picked in that round that are/were worth a damn.
We sure helped by whiffing on THREE of them, but unless you're only counting pro bowlers or something, you're way off. Either way, I'm not sure how it makes any difference, since my point was how foolish Redskins fans over-estimate their front office and their season's prospects.
We sure helped by whiffing on THREE of them, but unless you're only counting pro bowlers or something, you're way off. Either way, I'm not sure how it makes any difference, since my point was how foolish Redskins fans over-estimate their front office and their season's prospects.
I understood your point. Its a regular theme for you.
I remember being optimistic about Thomas because I didn't know much about him, didn't understand the Davis pick, and heard about Kelly's injury issues prior to the draft and wasn't really pleased about his selection. I was just happy the Skins were finally using draft picks instead of pissing them away. It was the appearance of progress under LiL Danny, that was soon proven unfounded.
And I looked over the 2nd round again and I now have 8 picks that appeared to be worthy of a 2nd round pick. Not seeing how I'm way off though, but obviously we have differing opinions when it comes to NFL related topics.
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I just did a quick google search on every player in the 2nd round of that draft and I now bump up my collection of worthy 2nd round picks to 9, but thats it and I'm not sure how anyone can argue differently.
Whether its 9 or 14 worthy picks in that round, its still a statement on that round of the 2008 draft that more than half of those chosen are not producing for the teams that drafted them. 2nd round picks are just as valuable as 1st rounders and there was a lot of wiffing done that year. And the Skins wiffed the most on 2 of the 3 they had.
Same could be said for the Skins draft this year, because a good number of those chosen could be cut or sent to the PS, but at least they are using their picks instead of trading them away. The draft is like the lottery, you can't win unless you play.
ESPN projects the Redskins at 3-13 (which was my projection as well I believe).
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Is this the NFL's worst personnel? Could be. Beck struggles outside of the pocket, a problem in a system that will emphasize rollouts and bootlegs. But if Beck's not the answer, neither is Grossman.
) I'll be honest with you...you'll be disappointed. His play started to decline last year. He's a lot slower and now, after surgery in June, he's overweight and out of shape coming into camp. He hasn't played much in the preseason.
