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08-19-2011, 04:10 PM
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So untouchable to you means 'you wont trade said Oiler player unless a better player is acquired in return'. You listed RNH, Hall, Eberle, MPS & Whitney as 'untouchable'. So does that mean you'd trade Hemsky for someone less skilled as him? Gagner? Dubnyk?

The point im trying to make is your definition of untouchable' doesn't hold solid. No way does Whitney belong on an 'untouchable' list. Thats BS. Perhaps he's your favorite Oiler & you dont want to see him traded, but to label Whitney untouchable is silly.

Id say imo Hall & maybe RNH are untouchable on Edmontons roster. Would Tambo consider trading RNH if Ottawa offered Spezza?? Maybe.

Boston, I'll label Chara & Seguin 'unlikely to be traded'. But then again if Nashville called offering a package around Weber, heck Id send Chara to Tennessee. Theyre equally talented but Weber is younger...
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It still doesn't make him untouchable. Sure, he's important to your team and he may be there until he retires, but he's 28. I know that isn't old at all and he's basically in his prime, but if a contending team called at the deadline and offered a player such as Larsson for Whitney, would Whitney still be around after the trade deadline? A young DMan such as a Larsson would grow and mature with all of the young guys playing on the Oilers.
Your guys' argument against my point is that "if a team offered a massive overpayment in terms of trade value, Whitney would get moved, so he doesn't belong in that list".

Then I ask this: does that not make only the best player in the league untouchable by your definition?

My definition of untouchable is a player that isn't going to be moved for a trade that we could reasonably make with that player.

I SUPPOSE you have a point that we might move Whitney at the deadline for an upper tier defensive prospect, however, I don't think there are any teams with the quality of prospect we would require for Whitney that are actually good enough to making that kind of purchase to make a run at the Cup.

If it makes you guys feel better, I can downgrade Whitney from "untouchable" to "Very unlikely to be moved", but my opinion is that he is untouchable by my definition of the phrase.

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08-19-2011, 04:45 PM
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scott gleanie is pretty much the only untouchable, a guy that is so complete and can play several different positions is a guy you cant trade ever
It's about time "The Glennie" is mentioned. Did you know he was drafted to the NFL as a starting quarterback, a shooting gaurd in the NBA, a striker by Manchester United and a pitcher to replace Koufax. But he turned them all down to make the "untouchable" list on HF.

It was a wise decision!

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08-22-2011, 02:14 PM
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Duchene, O'reilly, EJ

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08-22-2011, 02:24 PM
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Anaheim Ducks - Ryan Getzlaf, Corey Perry,Bobby Ryan
Boston Bruins - Tyler Seguin, Zdeno Chara, Patrice Bergeron
Buffalo Sabres - Tyler Myers, Tyler Ennis
Calgary Flames - Mark Giordano, Sven Bartschi
Carolina Hurricanes - Eric Staal, Cam Ward, Jeff Skinner
Chicago Blackhawks - Patrick Kane, Jonathan Toews, Duncan Keith, Patrick Sharp
Colorado Avalanche - Matt Duchene, Erik Johnson, Gabriel Landeskog,
Columbus Blue Jackets - Rick Nash, Ryan Johansen, Jeff Carter
Dallas Stars - Jamie Benn, Loui Eriksson, Mike Ribeiro
Detroit Red Wings - Pavel Datsyuk, Henrik Zetterberg, Nicklas Lidstrom
Edmonton Oilers - Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Florida Panthers - Erik Gudbranson, Johnathan Huberdeau, Jacob Markstrom, Dmitry Kulikov
Los Angeles Kings - Jonathan Quick, Anze Kopitar, Mike Richards, Drew Doughty, Dustin Brown
Minnesota Wild - Mikael Granlund, Mikko Koivu
Montreal Canadiens - Carey Price, PK Subban
Nashville Predators - Pekka Rinne, Ryan Suter
New Jersey Devils - Ilya Kovalchuk, Adam Larsson
New York Islanders - John Tavares, Ryan Strome
New York Rangers - Brad Richards, Ryan Callahan, Marc Staal, Henrik Lundqvist
Ottawa Senators - Jason Spezza, Erik Karlsson, Mika Zibanejad
Philadelphia Flyers - Claude Giroux, Brayden Schenn, Ilya Bryzgalov, James van Riemsdyk
Phoenix Coyotes - Keith Yandle, Oliver Ekman-Larsson
Pittsburgh Penguins - Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin, Marc-Andre Fleury, Kris Letang
San Jose Sharks - Joe Thornton, Logan Couture, Brent Burns
St. Louis Blues - David Backes, Alex Pietrangelo, Chris Stewart
Tampa Bay Lightning - Steven Stamkos, Martin St. Louis, Victor Hedman
Toronto Maple Leafs - Luke Schenn,Phil Kessel,Dion Phaneuf
Vancouver Canucks - Henrik Sedin, Daniel Sedin, Ryan Kesler
Washington Capitals - Alexander Ovechkin, Nicklas Backstrom, Karl Alzner, John Carlson, Tomas Vokoun
Winnipeg Jets - Andrew Ladd, Evander Kane, Tobias Enstrom
For Buffalo, Ennis isn't untouchable. The only true untouchables are Myers and Miller. Myers for talent, Miller because he's the captain, leader and face of the franchise.

Everyone else could be had for the right price.

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08-22-2011, 02:25 PM
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Duchene, O'reilly, EJ
O'Reilly isn't even close to untouchable. Nor is EJ, considering, you know, HE WAS JUST TRADED.

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08-22-2011, 02:58 PM
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Nor is EJ, considering, you know, HE WAS JUST TRADED.
LOL, good catch there.

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Anaheim Ducks - Ryan Getzlaf, Corey Perry,Bobby Ryan
Boston Bruins - Tyler Seguin, Zdeno Chara, Patrice Bergeron
Buffalo Sabres - Tyler Myers, Tyler Ennis
Calgary Flames - Mark Giordano, Sven Bartschi
Carolina Hurricanes - Eric Staal, Cam Ward, Jeff Skinner
Chicago Blackhawks - Patrick Kane, Jonathan Toews, Duncan Keith, Patrick Sharp
Colorado Avalanche - Matt Duchene, Erik Johnson, Gabriel Landeskog,
Columbus Blue Jackets - Rick Nash, Ryan Johansen, Jeff Carter
Dallas Stars - Jamie Benn, Loui Eriksson, Mike Ribeiro
Detroit Red Wings - Pavel Datsyuk, Henrik Zetterberg, Nicklas Lidstrom
Edmonton Oilers - Taylor Hall, Jordan Eberle, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Florida Panthers - Erik Gudbranson, Johnathan Huberdeau, Jacob Markstrom, Dmitry Kulikov
Los Angeles Kings - Jonathan Quick, Anze Kopitar, Mike Richards, Drew Doughty, Dustin Brown
Minnesota Wild - Mikael Granlund, Mikko Koivu
Montreal Canadiens - Carey Price, PK Subban
Nashville Predators - Pekka Rinne, Ryan Suter
New Jersey Devils - Ilya Kovalchuk, Adam Larsson
New York Islanders - John Tavares, Ryan Strome
New York Rangers - Brad Richards, Ryan Callahan, Marc Staal, Henrik Lundqvist
Ottawa Senators - Jason Spezza, Erik Karlsson, Mika Zibanejad
Philadelphia Flyers - Claude Giroux, Brayden Schenn, Ilya Bryzgalov, James van Riemsdyk
Phoenix Coyotes - Keith Yandle, Oliver Ekman-Larsson
Pittsburgh Penguins - Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin, Marc-Andre Fleury, Kris Letang
San Jose Sharks - Joe Thornton, Logan Couture, Brent Burns
St. Louis Blues - David Backes, Alex Pietrangelo, Chris Stewart
Tampa Bay Lightning - Steven Stamkos, Martin St. Louis, Victor Hedman
Toronto Maple Leafs - Luke Schenn,Phil Kessel,Dion Phaneuf
Vancouver Canucks - Henrik Sedin, Daniel Sedin, Ryan Kesler
Washington Capitals - Alexander Ovechkin, Nicklas Backstrom, Karl Alzner, John Carlson, Tomas Vokoun
Winnipeg Jets - Andrew Ladd, Evander Kane, Tobias Enstrom
Add Zajac and Brodeur.

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08-22-2011, 04:09 PM
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Reimer, Schenn, Kessel, Kulemin

Prospects probably Kadri, Gardiner

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08-22-2011, 04:17 PM
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Philly and Columbus:

No one for the right deal.

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08-22-2011, 04:20 PM
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I think a lot fewer players are actually "untouchable" for each team than most fanbases believe.

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