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09-27-2011, 07:00 PM
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You have to wonder if someone told him to go after the guy. because if you watch the video it wasnt like he went out there and then noticed the guy and remembered he was trollin vis. JFJ knew where he was going before he stepped onto the ice.
I posted on the MB that he is in a new lockerroom and wants the respect of the room. Duco was a giant doucher towards Visnovsky, our best defenseman, then Getzlaf, our captain and arguably best player, not to mention whoever was in net (Hiller? Or had he been pulled already). Plus JFJ is fighting for a paycheck.

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09-27-2011, 10:31 PM
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Im going to be quite upset if they break up McMillan-Cogs-Gordon, I don't think Macanuer is ready for a 3rd line role.

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09-27-2011, 10:33 PM
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Duco is a ****** as well, he tried to start on Lubo, that's why Getzlaf fought him. The only bad thing is that JFJ didn't punch his head off really

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09-27-2011, 10:51 PM
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Duco is a ****** as well, he tried to start on Lubo, that's why Getzlaf fought him. The only bad thing is that JFJ didn't punch his head off really

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09-27-2011, 11:43 PM
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Beleskey's recovery makes it a little harder on Gordon or Macenauer to make the team I think. At least, long term.
I hope it doesnt affect what the lines look like now. It's no secret that im not a fan of Beleskey. Imo, Beleskey/JFJ should be the 13th forward. Gordon should get his spot on the 3rd line RW. Beleskey had his chance at the 3rd line, and the FIRST line, probably every line. He sucks everywhere. Give the new kid his chance first and if he doesnt work out then try something else.

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09-28-2011, 12:56 AM
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And now repeat after me: McGrattan. McGrattan. McGrattan. McGrattan. McGrattan. McGrattan. McGrattan. McGrattan. McGrattan. McGrattan. McGrattan. McGrattan. McGrattan. McGrattan.


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09-28-2011, 01:25 AM
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I guess, if player ir suspended in NHL, he`s not allowed to play in AHL to, right?

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09-28-2011, 02:34 AM
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I guess, if player ir suspended in NHL, he`s not allowed to play in AHL to, right?
The AHL has the choice whether or not to uphold the NHLs suspension. If Jacques is sent down to the AHL he will have to sit out 5 regular season games when he is recalled to the NHL again in order to be eligible to play. That's the way it was when Downie got suspended for 20 games at least. Philly was constantly calling him up and sending him down until he served the 20 games.

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09-28-2011, 02:34 AM
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I guess, if player ir suspended in NHL, he`s not allowed to play in AHL to, right?
The AHL honors NHL suspensions. If I recall correctly, however, the NHL doesn't have to reciprocate.

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09-28-2011, 08:57 AM
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Here were the line combinations at Tuesday's practice:

Bobby Ryan-Ryan Getzlaf-Corey Perry
Andrew Cogliano-Saku Koivu-Teemu Selanne
Andrew Gordon-Maxime Macenauer-Devante Smith-Pelly
Patrick Maroon-Brandon McMillan-George Parros
Matt Beleskey-Jason Blake-Brian McGrattan-Jean-Francois Jacques

Interesting. Is Blake playing his way out of the lineup (Hopefully) or is RC just giving Cogs a chance a LW to see if he can play with with Saku and Teemu?

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09-28-2011, 09:04 AM
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Here were the line combinations at Tuesday's practice:

Bobby Ryan-Ryan Getzlaf-Corey Perry
Andrew Cogliano-Saku Koivu-Teemu Selanne
Andrew Gordon-Maxime Macenauer-Devante Smith-Pelly
Patrick Maroon-Brandon McMillan-George Parros
Matt Beleskey-Jason Blake-Brian McGrattan-Jean-Francois Jacques

Interesting. Is Blake playing his way out of the lineup (Hopefully) or is RC just giving Cogs a chance a LW to see if he can play with with Saku and Teemu?
I think it depends on if they think DSP is ready for a full NHL season. If he is it means you could move McMillan to 3c and have DSP-McMillan-Gordon and then Blake skating around the 4th line, with one of Beleskey / Jacques / Parros on the other wing.

I dunno if DSP is ready for a full NHL season though, I reckon he'll be a final cut similar to how Macaneur was last season.

Out of interest how many players can people think of that never played in the AHL for us and went straight to the NHL? Fowler is one, anyone else? Can't really think of anymore, I'm sure I'm missing some obvious ones though

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09-28-2011, 09:24 AM
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I dont think Oleg Tverdovsky or Paul Kariya every played in the AHL for the Ducks franchise but I could be wrong. I am sure there are others as well.

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09-28-2011, 09:51 AM
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I dont think Oleg Tverdovsky or Paul Kariya every played in the AHL for the Ducks franchise but I could be wrong. I am sure there are others as well.
Chad Kilger too. But the Ducks had zero depth back then.

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09-28-2011, 09:56 AM
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Interesting. Is Blake playing his way out of the lineup (Hopefully) or is RC just giving Cogs a chance a LW to see if he can play with with Saku and Teemu?
Probably just giving Cogs a good look. Blake looked like last season's Blake in the Vancouver game. Carlyle already knows what Blake brings to the table so he wants to see more of Cogs.

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09-28-2011, 09:57 AM
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Chad Kilger too. But the Ducks had zero depth back then.
Not to mention that...

Kariya - 4th overall pick
Tverdovsky - 2nd overall pick
Kilger - 4th overall pick



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09-28-2011, 10:27 AM
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Don't read too much into who's playing tonight and where they're playing. It's still preseason and we have 16 forwards which will soon be 13 or 14. Blake isn't playing because he's a veteran who's earned the right to only play a handful of preseason games. Cogs is on the wing again probably so Carlyle can see how McMillan works centering the fourth line. By the time the season starts Cogs should be back in the middle and McMillan on the wing with Mace centering the fourth line.

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09-28-2011, 11:24 AM
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According to McKenzie's twitter, JFJ was waived today.......

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09-28-2011, 11:48 AM
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Yeah no reason to take Jacques to Europe now. He will be called up to serve the suspension eventually (late October perhaps).

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09-28-2011, 12:20 PM
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Don't read too much into who's playing tonight and where they're playing. It's still preseason and we have 16 forwards which will soon be 13 or 14. Blake isn't playing because he's a veteran who's earned the right to only play a handful of preseason games. Cogs is on the wing again probably so Carlyle can see how McMillan works centering the fourth line. By the time the season starts Cogs should be back in the middle and McMillan on the wing with Mace centering the fourth line.
This.

But i`m wondering why Randy haven`t tried yet:

Cogs-Koivu-Selanne
Blake-McMillan-Gordon/DSP

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09-28-2011, 12:25 PM
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Probably just giving Cogs a good look. Blake looked like last season's Blake in the Vancouver game. Carlyle already knows what Blake brings to the table so he wants to see more of Cogs.
Is that a good or a bad thing? Looking like a 30 point 2nd liner isn't good in my mind.

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09-28-2011, 12:26 PM
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Is Blake playing his way out of the lineup (Hopefully)
I strongly dislike you people.

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09-28-2011, 12:26 PM
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Hey guys, I come in peace.

Just wondering if you guys have an idea of your starting lineup for tonight's game?

Mike Duco is dressing for the Canucks. Form an orderly line to punch him in the face.

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09-28-2011, 12:28 PM
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Is that a good or a bad thing? Looking like a 30 point 2nd liner isn't good in my mind.
It just never ends.

God forbid the guy is responsible for at least half of Masterson's possession. Did all you Blake haters watch the playoffs? The guy was on fire just like Koivu and Selanne. So what if he doesn't snipe the puck everytime he takes a shot, oh well. He brings everything that's needed for the Masterson to succeed. If Blake wasn't on that second line, we don't make the playoffs.

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09-28-2011, 12:38 PM
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Hey guys, I come in peace.

Just wondering if you guys have an idea of your starting lineup for tonight's game?

Mike Duco is dressing for the Canucks. Form an orderly line to punch him in the face.
We don`t have any idea right now. At least i don`t have any idea and haven`t heard anything yet. It should be known later.

Even though, it should be something like in practice

Ryan-Getzlaf-Perry
Cogliano-Koivu-Selanne
Gordon-Macenauer-Smith-Pelly
Maroon-McMillan-Parros

Smith-Pelly is one person

We better don`t touch Duco, he`ll get Parros suspended to. He`s like Avery, but i have to admit, does his job well. He got JF Jaques out not only for a game, but for couple of weeks.

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It just never ends.

God forbid the guy is responsible for at least half of Masterson's possession. Did all you Blake haters watch the playoffs? The guy was on fire just like Koivu and Selanne. So what if he doesn't snipe the puck everytime he takes a shot, oh well. He brings everything that's needed for the Masterson to succeed. If Blake wasn't on that second line, we don't make the playoffs.
I agree that hate for Blake is a bit too much. He`s in fan doghouse. Like Chip and Carter were for Randy.

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^Duco's a tough one for me. I get that he's an agitator, and he's a surprisingly effective one...but players in that role can sometimes be more trouble than they're worth. The one upside to Duco is that he appears willing to fight his own battles (stand up for the messes he creates) whereas someone like Matt Cooke would cower and run from a fight.

But even then, I'm not sure as a Canuck fan that I want him on our roster. He could cause someone to take a run at one of our own stars.

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