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08-11-2004, 09:18 PM
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Habs assistant coach...

I was looking at the void left by Charron and while jarvis seems like a potential choice I would really prefer him to datay in Hamilton.

Now what coach would you like to see with Cj next year. I personaly would like to see someone new and refreshing. What would you guys think of Mike Bossy..?

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Yeah Bossy is a good choice.I can see many guys who can replace Charon.Guys like Bossy,Jarvis,Dube,Robinson can replace him.Personnally my choice would be Robinson.

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Joey Juneau although i doubt he would want to right now... he just retired.

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Joey Juneau although i doubt he would want to right now... he just retired.
Please not Juneau.

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I'd like to get Carbo back, if not Robinson would be nice as well, but as amuch as i'd like to see it i'm not sure theres a great chance either will come. The latest article from canadiens.com mentioned the empty position and made it sound like Jarvis could be filling the hole.

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We need an assistant coach which can make a difference on our special teams. Both the PK and PP. I don't think robinson can do that.

Carbo has proven he can improve the PK but what about the PP.

I say we thoroughly look everywhere and find that specialist and hire him. I don't mind if he is an unknown as long as he can get the PK and PP going.

We all what a good PK and PP can bring last year.

By the way ... anybody know why Green is still an assistant ????? We will never have a decent break out of our zone with this guy. He invented the dump out and puck on the glass strategy.


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igor Larionov....this guy is a legend and deserve a lot of respect from everybody.He knows europeen and north americain game and also has a lot of international tournements experiments....

he would be an exellent guy to have with the team specially for all the russian skill players that are comming

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igor Larionov....this guy is a legend and deserve a lot of respect from everybody.He knows europeen and north americain game and also has a lot of international tournements experiments....

he would be an exellent guy to have with the team specially for all the russian skill players that are comming
i agree

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The reason I was thinking of Bossy is because all these potentially very good offensive guys that we have. I think he might be able to help them reach the next level. I think he could also help our PP and he knows what a winning organization looks like....

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The reason I was thinking of Bossy is because all these potentially very good offensive guys that we have. I think he might be able to help them reach the next level. I think he could also help our PP and he knows what a winning organization looks like....
Do he have any coaching experience?

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I think this should be an easy choice. Dave King. Was assistant coach for us once before, until hired in Columbus. He did a great job.

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The reason I was thinking of Bossy is because all these potentially very good offensive guys that we have. I think he might be able to help them reach the next level. I think he could also help our PP and he knows what a winning organization looks like....
Bossy would be such a great choice. Remember last year, our PP was awful so he would be able to help in that. And like you said, he could help Hossa, Perez, Kost, Pleks...in their developement.

As for Larionov, well he would be great too but I don't think he would be ready to be a coach. He's like Juneau right now. And if he do something like that, he will do it in Detroit. My two cent on that.

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I was looking at the void left by Charron and while jarvis seems like a potential choice I would really prefer him to datay in Hamilton.

Now what coach would you like to see with Cj next year. I personaly would like to see someone new and refreshing. What would you guys think of Mike Bossy..?
Bossy would be a very good choice. For many years now he has produced training videos that are used extensively by Hockey Canada (formerly the CHA) to train new coaches and players alike. He's a home-boy, bi-linguilaly fluent and knows a thing or two about scoring goals.

As good second choices I would suggest not only Larionov but Doug Gilmour as well. Whether they could figure out how to teach the skills each brought to their game is unknown but that would definitely improve with time. None of these three ever did anything half-assed and I would doubt they would let the players they would be working with to do so either.

Just my opinion.

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Is it ok for me to root for Bossy without being told that I worshipped Bergeron

Bossy has my vote!

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Help me out here: Is Bossy really a bright hockey analyst guy/coaching material? Honestly, I don't know. I never see him or hear him. Just because a player was an all-time great at scoring himself, that usually doesn't mean he'll be great at teaching his skills to others (in fact, hockey history almost suggests a negative correlation between all-time great offensive talent and coaching ability). And just because he gets his name attached to sell some hockey videos doesn't necessarily make him a true legitimate coaching candidate either.

Basically, I just want to know: would Bossy be more of a "popularity" hiring (which is something I hope the Habs have left in the past), or is he truly a good hockey mind who would be a candidate to work for any team in the league?

(And if he was such a good candidate, why haven't the Isles hired him before? Or why haven't any of his various past teammates or friends in the business stepped forward to hire him?)

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(And if he was such a good candidate, why haven't the Isles hired him before? Or why haven't any of his various past teammates or friends in the business stepped forward to hire him?)
Because Mike Milbury is a genius!

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Because Mike Milbury is a genius!
But before that, even. Bossy has been out of the NHL for a loooong time now. 17 years! And tons of those Islanders dynasty members have been in coaching and management positions in many different organisations. Wouldn't somebody have thought of him by now (if he was regarded as assistant coaching material)?

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But before that, even. Bossy has been out of the NHL for a loooong time now. 17 years! And tons of those Islanders dynasty members have been in coaching and management positions in many different organisations. Wouldn't somebody have thought of him by now (if he was regarded as assistant coaching material)?
Joe Gibbs and Dick Vermeil came back after a long period outside of the NFL!!!

Maybe because he did not want to coach back then! The NHL wants to increase the offense in the league, thus the rule modifications, and I think they are moving toward a more offense oriented game versus defense oriented game. There is plenty of coaches that can teach how to dump the puck and stay at the red-line around the league. But with the number of good players in the habs system, I would not mind seeing something new, like an offense-guru type of coach, to teach players how to do a proper wrist-shot or to do a good one-timer etc....

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Help me out here: Is Bossy really a bright hockey analyst guy/coaching material? Honestly, I don't know. I never see him or hear him. Just because a player was an all-time great at scoring himself, that usually doesn't mean he'll be great at teaching his skills to others (in fact, hockey history almost suggests a negative correlation between all-time great offensive talent and coaching ability). And just because he gets his name attached to sell some hockey videos doesn't necessarily make him a true legitimate coaching candidate either.

Basically, I just want to know: would Bossy be more of a "popularity" hiring (which is something I hope the Habs have left in the past), or is he truly a good hockey mind who would be a candidate to work for any team in the league?

(And if he was such a good candidate, why haven't the Isles hired him before? Or why haven't any of his various past teammates or friends in the business stepped forward to hire him?)

He is a good analist, in my opinion, better than Yvon Pedneault or jacques Demers, and he should have player's respect as an assistant coach, he can bring up some strategy that CJ can't and some points of view of an former player...
That would be my choice

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But before that, even. Bossy has been out of the NHL for a loooong time now. 17 years! And tons of those Islanders dynasty members have been in coaching and management positions in many different organisations. Wouldn't somebody have thought of him by now (if he was regarded as assistant coaching material)?
Probably due to his turns as a restaurant owner and radio personality? Also, he was really young when he was forced into retirement.

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guy charron don't do the job , because the power play was him responsability and
habs had no success last years .For this reason i agree to take mike bossy for
assistant coach . he is the man who have the keys of power play .

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Help me out here: Is Bossy really a bright hockey analyst guy/coaching material? Honestly, I don't know. I never see him or hear him. Just because a player was an all-time great at scoring himself, that usually doesn't mean he'll be great at teaching his skills to others (in fact, hockey history almost suggests a negative correlation between all-time great offensive talent and coaching ability). And just because he gets his name attached to sell some hockey videos doesn't necessarily make him a true legitimate coaching candidate either.

Basically, I just want to know: would Bossy be more of a "popularity" hiring (which is something I hope the Habs have left in the past), or is he truly a good hockey mind who would be a candidate to work for any team in the league?

(And if he was such a good candidate, why haven't the Isles hired him before? Or why haven't any of his various past teammates or friends in the business stepped forward to hire him?)
Helps on the way.......

Have you seen any of the instructional videos that Mike Bossy has made? I'm guessing no. I have, and he did not just attach his name to those videos he's on the ice instructing a group of young players. He is shown explaining the skills, breaking them into their key elements and showing the players how to execute the drills, and then taking the players through the drills to a succesful completion. That's coaching.

Now as to why he hasn't been offered a job already in the NHL your guess is as good as mine. We both know there are people working or have worked in the NHL that are just taking up the jobs of the people that truly belong there. I'll give you two and you can finish the list.

1) Barry Melrose ???????
2) Mike Milburry ???????

Nuff Said.

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Wouldn't Ted Nolan look good with CJ behind our bench? Even as an assistant. Nobody else seems to want to give him a chance.

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Help me out here: Is Bossy really a bright hockey analyst guy/coaching material? Honestly, I don't know. I never see him or hear him. Just because a player was an all-time great at scoring himself, that usually doesn't mean he'll be great at teaching his skills to others (in fact, hockey history almost suggests a negative correlation between all-time great offensive talent and coaching ability). And just because he gets his name attached to sell some hockey videos doesn't necessarily make him a true legitimate coaching candidate either.

Basically, I just want to know: would Bossy be more of a "popularity" hiring (which is something I hope the Habs have left in the past), or is he truly a good hockey mind who would be a candidate to work for any team in the league?

(And if he was such a good candidate, why haven't the Isles hired him before? Or why haven't any of his various past teammates or friends in the business stepped forward to hire him?)

I think Bossy has the brains and the knowledge to be a coach. No doubt about that.

What must worry management is that this guy is very outspoken. He speaks is mind and very often is politically incorrect. For sure he is not a yes man.

That is a no-no in these times when the organisation dictates everything that must be said. I had not thought of this guy. I would love to have him. He has revolutionary ideas.

He would certainly be a breath of fresh air.

BUT ... very unlikely. This would be a high risk high return decision.


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