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08-29-2011, 05:08 PM
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I called half this trade yesterday, lol.

I like the deal, I will sincerely miss Langkow and thanks him for all he has done for this organization.

A center had to go, and to me Langkow was the most logical selection.

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08-29-2011, 05:32 PM
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I hate to see Langkow go, but this was a good deal on Feaster's part.

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08-29-2011, 05:48 PM
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Kind of a slap in the face after what he's been through. Oh well, I wish him luck in Phoenix.
How is a $4.5 million cheque a slap in the face?

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Interesting. Wonder what the return could be? Something minimal, I'd imagine.

I'll definitely miss Langkow in Calgary. All the best to him in Phoenix if this is true.

I wonder if his injury has slowed him down going forward.
I agree and wish him the best. I look forward to see how Stepniak fits in on RW.

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would hope the PHX just eats the salary and gives us a low pick. But I could see Stempniak as being more likely.

I don't like this unless it is a pure cap dump. Langkow could wind up being one of our most consistent, dependable, and defensivly aware centres this year.

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08-29-2011, 05:54 PM
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I called half this trade yesterday, lol.

I like the deal, I will sincerely miss Langkow and thanks him for all he has done for this organization.

A center had to go, and to me Langkow was the most logical selection.
This is one of the first things I thought of when I heard this was going down lol. Good call on the trade! TBH I would of preferred your deal to this one, probably too much salary for the Yotes to eat though.

I'll miss Lanks too, great guy and teammate. Wish him nothing but the best in Phoenix! Hopefully him and Doan can rekindle some magic.

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08-29-2011, 05:54 PM
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No doubt in my mind that Feaster had to get rid of a center, but it is sad to see Langks go, though maybe not his 4.5M hit. He was great with Tangs and Iggy, and has always made his wingers better (like Moss and Bourque 2 yrs ago). I think it means something that Gretzky called him Phoenix's smartest player when he was last a Yote.
I'm not saying it was a bad trade, all things considered, but he's a good player and I hear an excellent teammate and role model. It will be interesting to see how this year goes for him, and I hope he has a great season.
Drafted a spot ahead of Iggy...he's no slouch.

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08-29-2011, 06:05 PM
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You do have to give Feaster credit where credit is due. I have to admit, when I heard Langkow was coming back last year it was great news to hear and I was excited to see how he would do, but the other part of me was worried because of the cap hell it was going to create. He played only 4 games last season and really there are still concerns about this health. All of this and Feaster somehow managed to pull off a deal that is shedding just over half of his salary and found a player that is at least capable of putting up similar offensive totals to him. I'm not a huge Stempniak fan, but this is a good trade for the Flames. Feaster has stayed true to his word, he has shedded salary, made our team younger, and really took a good step in re-stocking our prospect pool this past draft.

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08-29-2011, 06:13 PM
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Really happy with with trade! I have always liked Langkow, was one of my favorite Flames a few years back, but he is a huge question mark coming off that injury. Plus obviously the Flames needed to get younger and cheaper so it works out great to get Stempniak back.

Go Flames go!!

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i bet he'll enjoy the weather in phoenix a little more than in calgary. unfortunate, was a great player fr us for many years. would have lked to see him bounce back in a flames uniform though.

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08-29-2011, 06:42 PM
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Objectively, the trade is good for us. Young for old, healthy for injured, cheap for expensive.

Subjectively... I don't like it. Haven't we learned our lesson with ex-Leafs yet? Daymond is a straight-up character guy, too... I was really happy to see him come back after his injury even if he didn't win the Masterton. Best of luck to him in PHX - I hope there's still some grind left in him.

Pucks on your stick, Stempniak.. how about you don't follow the trend of ex-Leafs blowing the big one in Calgary.

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Feaster said him and Brent are projecting that Stempniak could play in the top 6 (Stempniak-Olli-Bourque) and that he can play either wing. He also said he talked to Stajan about him before the trade and he had nothing but great things to say about him as a teammate and his work ethic. In his last 2 contract years Lee has got 27 and 28 goals, so he could potentially have a good year here. Hopefully this trade works out for us, will be interesting to see where he plays.

On another note, Feaster was commenting about Hagman and the shape he is in. He said he expects him to come into camp and really surprise alot of people. He also said that Morrison is planning on participating on Day 1 of camp.

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08-29-2011, 06:59 PM
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Feaster said him and Brent are projecting that Stempniak could play in the top 6 (Stempniak-Olli-Bourque) and that he can play either wing. He also said he talked to Stajan about him before the trade and he had nothing but great things to say about him as a teammate and his work ethic. In his last 2 contract years Lee has got 27 and 28 goals, so he could potentially have a good year here. Hopefully this trade works out for us, will be interesting to see where he plays.

On another note, Feaster was commenting about Hagman and the shape he is in. He said he expects him to come into camp and really surprise alot of people. He also said that Morrison is planning on participating on Day 1 of camp.
If all of this is true, he clearly isn't done yet. That's alot of forwards who can potentially crack the team.

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If all of this is true, he clearly isn't done yet. That's alot of forwards who can potentially crack the team.
Isn't that a good thing?

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Isn't that a good thing?
Depth is fine, but I wouldnt be suprised to see someone else dealt by the time the season starts.

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08-29-2011, 07:57 PM
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I think by the time training camp is done, we will see at least 1 player dealt away for I am hoping a draft pick. We somewhat resolved our centre issue, but now we have an excess of wingers. Another note, Feaster was saying how he likes to use Moss at centre. So he wants Moss to get some minutes at centre next year also, obviously another roster move has to be made.

I have to say I am surprised Feaster was able to even move Langkow, I know Phoenix approached him, but it is somewhat shocking. Outside of Stajan and Hagman, Langkow would of been the hardest guy to move. He is 35, played 4 games last season, had a broken neck, and makes 4.5 million a season with a NTC. You wouldn't think that would be a player you could move. Feaster has really done a great job this summer overall.

I am really hoping now Stajan bounces back next year because it looks as though we are stuck with him. This move will allow him to get some more minutes and hopefully produce so either becomes an asset to the team or we can trade him.

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Good deal - younger, faster, cheaper.

I loved Langkow but 2 seasons ago I remember thinking that he lost a step. Then a full year off from a serious injury.

Hey hope he does well but to get rid of that contract with all the uncertainty, well that's a coup by Feaster.

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Its sad to see him go, but it was a logical decision and the right one.. Hopefully Lee can impress

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08-29-2011, 08:33 PM
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The prefix of this thread should be changed to:

Confirmed with Link: As per TSN

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=374721

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Now all we need to do is trade Hagman to A team that needs to hit the cap floor for A 3rd or A late round pick and a decent prospect. Make that happen and you have earned GM of the Year

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Now all we need to do is trade Hagman to A team that needs to hit the cap floor for A 3rd or A late round pick and a decent prospect. Make that happen and you have earned GM of the Year
I honestly don't think Hags is going anywhere at least for the time being. I think they are going to let training camp work out who is making the team and then the necessary changes will be made. The best players will stay, if Hagman comes back and plays the way he can he will be an asset to the Flames.

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I honestly don't think Hags is going anywhere at least for the time being. I think they are going to let training camp work out who is making the team and then the necessary changes will be made. The best players will stay, if Hagman comes back and plays the way he can he will be an asset to the Flames.
I really want Hagman to play like he can. He tried so hard at the end of he season and got so little. I just don't see him doing it unless he's getting top 6 minutes or PP time. Now that Jackman is useful on the PP I just don't see Hagman getting the time he needs to be effective. I'd just rather regain a pick or two we lost and free up some more cap space to maybe take a run at the playoffs.

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Seriously, do the ex-Leafs lose their Blue-and-White disease when they get traded to Calgary? I follow the Leafs and not the Flames, so I wouldn't know.

Hagman was a half-decent player in Toronto, and I'd expect him to be the same anywhere.

Stajan? Meh. Over-rated and under-performer in Toronto.

Stempniak looked like he was on a Caribbean vacation every time he was on the ice.

If you see Stajan or Stempniak fight their way to the front of the net, take a shot from within 15' of the goal or backcheck on more than two shifts in one game, I'd say your player's been cured. If not, it's the same guy we had.

We've had a whole dressing room full of that kind of players for years now. Hopefully, Burke has swept most of them out. Funny that so many have landed up in Calgary now.

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08-29-2011, 10:16 PM
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Said to see Langkow moved, but the team needed the cap space. Langkow was a great complementary player on the Flames, and a tough, two-way player. The team will miss his all-around game and his presence in the lockerroom.

On the flip side, I hope the deal means that Backlund will get a shot at centering Iginla and Tanguay on the top line. It's time for the youngster to step up his game and show that he deserves top-6 minutes.

As for Stempniak, he's better suited for 3rd-line duties, but he can pitch him on the 2nd line if needed. I could see him lining up with Stajan and Glencross.

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Not a big fan. People point to the injury concerns, but it's not like Langkow had a concussion. Yeah, he broke his neck, which is obviously a very serious injury, but it's also the kind of injury that once he's physically recovered, the only thing hindering his performance would be more the mental side of things. That kind of injury is a freak, one-time thing; not a recurring worry.

Langkow brings a lot more to the table than a Stempniak. And if he was healthy enough to play at the end of last season, then he's sure as hell going to be healthy enough after an off-season.

A lot of people are also pointing to the savings in cap hit, but since both had 1-year deals left, this only becomes useful if that space gets filled with some other improvement... But I'm starting to wonder if the owners aren't looking at us as a "cap team" anymoreand want to save some cash.

Stempniak works about half as hard as a guy like Hagman, but with better puck skills/shot. It's safe to predict he's not going to be a well-liked Flame. Stempniak is a streaky winger who's weak on the puck and isn't going to be relied on defensively.

With Hagman on a 1-year deal, I'd rather just hang on to him too. The last time Hagman was going in to a UFA year, he put up his career high of 27 goals, which led to his present contract. He's never been put in much of a defensive role in CGY (don't know why), but he broke in to the league as a defensive specialist.


BUT if we can manage to move Hagman for a non-roster player, or even waive him, AND it leads to some signifcant C or D coming in, then I can get on board with this trade.

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08-29-2011, 11:08 PM
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Meh. If he's good, we're either in the playoff hunt or he gets us an asset at the deadline. If he's bad, we wait to the end of the season to get rid of him.

Sucks to see Langkow go, I'm not going to go easy on Stempniak as a result.

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