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08-30-2011, 07:15 PM
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The more I think about it, the more I'm coming around to the idea.

Vanek-Roy-Iginla forms the first truly fear-evoking #1 line this team has had since Patty LaLa and Mogilny were tearing it up in 1993.

I seriously think that makes us instant Cup contenders. If we can get away with only losing Stafford off the current roster...

Vanek-Roy-Iginla
Ennis-Leino-Pominville

Is one FILTHY top-6.

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08-30-2011, 07:20 PM
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To CGY.

Tyler Ennis
Brad Boyes
Brayden Mcnabb
1st Round Draft Pick 2012

To BUF.

Jerome Iginla
I'm sort of with you here. But then...

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You take that deal and ship it to Ottawa for Spezza. I love Iginla but this team needs a #1 Center. Imagine Roy playing on the third line.


So you'd trade Ennis, Boyes, McNabb, and a 1st for Spezza? Why even bother with the Iginla trade? I'm sure the Sens would be thrilled with Ennis, McNabb, and a 1st for Jasoveratedon Spezza.

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08-30-2011, 07:21 PM
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IMO, the Sabres will have a top 5-10 offense this season.

If they are going to add anyone at the deadline I'd look to add another stud defenseman if one is available.

Continue to build that blueline in front of Miller and it will pay off in aces come May and June.

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08-30-2011, 07:24 PM
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At the Trade Deadline:

To CGY.

Tyler Ennis
Brad Boyes
Brayden Mcnabb
1st Round Draft Pick 2012

To BUF.

Jerome Iginla

Would this work salary wise?

I certainly think its fair value for both sides.
I think we also have to toss in Enroth...Then I think this deal will come to fruition.

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08-30-2011, 07:39 PM
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I'm sort of with you here. But then...





So you'd trade Ennis, Boyes, McNabb, and a 1st for Spezza? Why even bother with the Iginla trade? I'm sure the Sens would be thrilled with Ennis, McNabb, and a 1st for Jasoveratedon Spezza.
The Calgary/Buf Trade was proposed by someone else. Spezza is a younger player that fits this teams #1 need. While Iginla is a beast no doubt.... Spezza on a line with Vanek could do some incredible damage.

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08-30-2011, 07:54 PM
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I'm pretty much on the not trading Ennis for anyone train.
I would not make that deal if I were Buffalo.

I'd ratehr trade for Iggy right now and find a way to Jedi Calgray into taking Pominville + for him. Nearly anything but the Tylers

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08-30-2011, 08:03 PM
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Garth cranked up the retard to epic proportions on this.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/GARTH...--IGGY/6/37801



You have to be kidding me. I've seen some REALLY dumb stuff on the internets, but this..... A player who lives in Europe and hasn't been back to the US yet, that means he's TRADE BAIT ZOMG!!!

It disgusts me that I work for my money, and he gets paid to write drivel like this.

Making matters worse (if thats possible), he starts that portion of his article by saying "Stafford isn't going anywhere. Teams don't sign players to 4 year, $16 million contracts just to turn around and trade them."

Oh, but they sign players to 6 year, $27(?) million deals just to turn around and trade them, Garth?

What a ****ing dumbass.

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08-30-2011, 08:04 PM
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Double, sorry. Hf is acting strange.

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08-30-2011, 08:16 PM
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While I do think that the addition of Spezza/Iginla would be nice, I feel a lot of people are failing to realize that besides the great acquisitions we already made, their going to do so much better just through addition by subtraction (Connolly, Grier, Neids).

Those dead wholes in the roster will be filled with much better projected scoring (and defense).

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08-30-2011, 09:15 PM
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IMO, the Sabres will have a top 5-10 offense this season.

If they are going to add anyone at the deadline I'd look to add another stud defenseman if one is available.

Continue to build that blueline in front of Miller and it will pay off in aces come May and June.
If you're going the Vet forward with offensve punch and similar game to Iggy, Shane Doan might be a cheaper rental depending on PHX's record and his desire to stay there.

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08-31-2011, 02:27 AM
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You forgot the "sarcasm" emoticon.
And you forgot common sense, if you want a player of Iginlas caliber that is what you have to give up. Ya its alot and IMO Buffalo is over-paying a little bit but that is what it takes.

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08-31-2011, 02:31 AM
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The Calgary/Buf Trade was proposed by someone else. Spezza is a younger player that fits this teams #1 need. While Iginla is a beast no doubt.... Spezza on a line with Vanek could do some incredible damage.
While this is true, I think the risk is far to great sending all of that to a division rival. That package could turn Ottawa into a serious contender in the next 2-3 years then we will have to compete with them while Spezza will be in his after prime years. I also think Spezza is overacted too and can't stand him so that bias doesn't help. Have to agree with the proposal though as thats what it would take to get him..

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If they dumped Kotalik and Morrisonn before the season began, I believe it would fit.
But that is without knowing how much cap space is used up by recalls in the event of a major injury or a boatload of injuries.

We won't know how much cap space they have to play with at the deadline until we get to New Years and beyond.

In all likelihood, it should fit. But, the season could potentially play out in a way that even that small of a cap increase in the deadline won't fit.

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08-31-2011, 09:44 AM
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FWIW, the Flames PxP man, Peter Maher, was on WGR this morning and thinks there's no chance of Iginla being moved at all, based on direct conversations he's had with Calgary president Ken King. King has publicly said he wants Iginla to play out the final 2 years of his contract in Calgary and even beyond.

The only remote possibility Maher allowed for is if Iginla were to go to management and ask to be traded to a contender because he sees the Flames in a rebuilding mode.

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While I do think that the addition of Spezza/Iginla would be nice, I feel a lot of people are failing to realize that besides the great acquisitions we already made, their going to do so much better just through addition by subtraction (Connolly, Grier, Neids).

Those dead wholes in the roster will be filled with much better projected scoring (and defense).
Agree with Connolly and Niedermayer, not with Grier...

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If you're going the Vet forward with offensve punch and similar game to Iggy, Shane Doan might be a cheaper rental depending on PHX's record and his desire to stay there.
If I had a choice between the two, I'd go with Doan as well.

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08-31-2011, 10:05 AM
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He'll fetch the same as Smyth did when he got traded to the isles 2 so so prospects and a 1st, because Iginla won't be traded til he's a UFA to be. Anything more would be stupid.

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Gee, I _just_ got a Iginla Jersey too. This would mean I'd have to buy another

Seriously, I'm all for a player like Iginla on board, but not at the expense of our future. If _he_ wants to head to a contender while the Flames are rebuilding in his career twilight, I fully understand that. And I fully understand that he's still got a few years of production in him. But what happens if we trade away our future for a cup run _this_ year and Iginla goes down with an ACL while playing in Europe?

So yeah, I've love to bring him on board by all means, but only if the price is right. As a few posters have alluded to, this makes more sense at the trade deadline when the Flames' 11-12 season isn't going anywhere and Iginla's asking to move. The price will be lower and the risk less as a result.

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While this is true, I think the risk is far to great sending all of that to a division rival. That package could turn Ottawa into a serious contender in the next 2-3 years then we will have to compete with them while Spezza will be in his after prime years. I also think Spezza is overacted too and can't stand him so that bias doesn't help. Have to agree with the proposal though as thats what it would take to get him..
Spezza would be turning 31 in 3 years....still in his prime. And while I agree that Ennis would be a huge lost. McNabb, a 1st and Boyes wouldn't. Who's to say Ottawa resigns Boyes? That 1st rounder should be late(maybe trade them Cal 2nd instead). McNabb.. while having a lot of potential would just be wasting away in Roc. Spezza averages over a point per game and is the setup man Vanek needs to become a 40-50 goal scorer.

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I actually just got a minor headache trying to figure out why any non-retarded manager would want to make a deal between those two teams with that player involved. I mean, we got wingers. We got A LOT OF WINGERS. More wingers? That's not logical. And we just ate a a contract from that very same team, so...hence the headache.

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I'm pretty much on the not trading Ennis for anyone train.
I would not make that deal if I were Buffalo.

I'd ratehr trade for Iggy right now and find a way to Jedi Calgray into taking Pominville + for him. Nearly anything but the Tylers
Totally agree here

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Totally agree here
Me too. I see Ennis as a future Roy with the stickhandling of Afinogenov. He has way of maneuvering in a space the size of a closet and still somehow keeping the puck. All this while dragging more and more players to him, opening up his linemates.

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Spezza would be turning 31 in 3 years....still in his prime. And while I agree that Ennis would be a huge lost. McNabb, a 1st and Boyes wouldn't. Who's to say Ottawa resigns Boyes? That 1st rounder should be late(maybe trade them Cal 2nd instead). McNabb.. while having a lot of potential would just be wasting away in Roc. Spezza averages over a point per game and is the setup man Vanek needs to become a 40-50 goal scorer.
I have always been against trading for Spezza, this package is the one I like the most though and feel is as much value as Ottawas going to get for him..

Sign me up.

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I think any trade involving Spezza would have to start with Roy. Then work on the package(I think Brennan + Draft pick). Since its Roy I dont see Buffalo giving that much up in prospects. Whoever brought up Doan, I love the idea for him to be here. I think he would fit here nicely. With Phoenix giving up Bryz, and if the season is a wash, I could see him trying to waive his NMC to here. Then next year we sign him for a few more years. Next year if we nab Spezza and keep Doan: (Not inlcuding guys we sign to replace potential departures of Gaustad, Hecht, Kaleta, Morrison, Boyes, Kotalik)

Vanek-Spezza-Doan
Pominville-Leino-Stafford
Ennis-Adam-Kassian
Gerbe-McCormick-Foligno*

*Not a locked roster spot

Myers-Regehr
Ehroff-Leopold
Sekera-Weber

Thats a lot of firepower in your lineup. It's missing the role players though.

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I think any trade involving Spezza would have to start with Roy. Then work on the package(I think Brennan + Draft pick). Since its Roy I dont see Buffalo giving that much up in prospects. Whoever brought up Doan, I love the idea for him to be here. I think he would fit here nicely. With Phoenix giving up Bryz, and if the season is a wash, I could see him trying to waive his NMC to here. Then next year we sign him for a few more years. Next year if we nab Spezza and keep Doan: (Not inlcuding guys we sign to replace potential departures of Gaustad, Hecht, Kaleta, Morrison, Boyes, Kotalik)

Vanek-Spezza-Doan
Pominville-Leino-Stafford
Ennis-Adam-Kassian
Gerbe-McCormick-Foligno*

*Not a locked roster spot

Myers-Regehr
Ehroff-Leopold
Sekera-Weber

Thats a lot of firepower in your lineup. It's missing the role players though.
I wouldn't trade Roy + for Spezza

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