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08-30-2011, 10:47 PM
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Andy McDonald to Chicago?

Would love to see him in Chicago, he can play 2nd line C and run a 2a, 2b combo with Bolland. This would also allow the Hawks to move Sharp back to the wing and re-unite his big shot with Toews and Kane on the top line. Blues are stacked at Centre with Berglund as their #1, Backes (even though a natural winger) plays thier 2nd line C and then they got Laich and Sobotka.

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Brunette-McDonald-Hossa
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Would love to see him in Chicago, he can play 2nd line C and run a 2a, 2b combo with Bolland. This would also allow the Hawks to move Sharp back to the wing and re-unite his big shot with Toews and Kane on the top line. Blues are stacked at Centre with Berglund as their #1, Backes (even though a natural winger) plays thier 2nd line C and then they got Laich and Sobotka.

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Would love to see him in Chicago, he can play 2nd line C and run a 2a, 2b combo with Bolland. This would also allow the Hawks to move Sharp back to the wing and re-unite his big shot with Toews and Kane on the top line. Blues are stacked at Centre with Berglund as their #1, Backes (even though a natural winger) plays thier 2nd line C and then they got Laich and Sobotka.

Sharp-Toews-Kane
Brunette-McDonald-Hossa
Bickell-Bolland-Frolik
Olesz/Smith-Kruger-Carcillo
St.Louis does not have Brooks Laich.

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Laich ?

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Would love to see him in Chicago, he can play 2nd line C and run a 2a, 2b combo with Bolland. This would also allow the Hawks to move Sharp back to the wing and re-unite his big shot with Toews and Kane on the top line. Blues are stacked at Centre with Berglund as their #1, Backes (even though a natural winger) plays thier 2nd line C and then they got Laich and Sobotka.

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Brunette-McDonald-Hossa
Bickell-Bolland-Frolik
Olesz/Smith-Kruger-Carcillo
St Louis is not going to make a trade that makes a division rival better. Also Amac is counted on to be a top 6 winger. Amac still has 70+ point ability if healthy. So what 70 point player are you willing to part with for McDonald?


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I would love it if we had Laich but I hate to tell you he is not a member of the blues!

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I really like Sharp, base a deal around that?

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The Hawks aren't going to pay for an oft injured player and the Blues would want full price for him. Don't see a deal working out here. Like the other posters have said they would want a 70 point player, which is what he could be if he managed to stay healthy. Which is a risk the Hawks won't take.

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Would love to see him in Chicago, he can play 2nd line C and run a 2a, 2b combo with Bolland. This would also allow the Hawks to move Sharp back to the wing and re-unite his big shot with Toews and Kane on the top line. Blues are stacked at Centre with Berglund as their #1, Backes (even though a natural winger) plays thier 2nd line C and then they got Laich and Sobotka.

Sharp-Toews-Kane
Brunette-McDonald-Hossa
Bickell-Bolland-Frolik
Olesz/Smith-Kruger-Carcillo
Laich?

And McDonald isn't a #2 C ,, Sharp is fine as a #2 C (Hawks won cup with Sharp as #2 C)

No need to trade for McD and the Blues would never trade him to Hawks

Hawks as season progresses need to look for top 6 LW on trade market more so then a C

I expect the Hawks to role something like this to start season

Smith-Toews-Kane (LW with Kane/Toews is revolving door ,, Smith probably gets first crack)
Brunette-Sharp-Hossa
Bickell-Bolland-Frolik
Olesz-Mayers-Carcillo
(Stalberg)

Something like that ,, If Kruger shows he is ready for fulltime duty in NHL then maybe you see

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Brunette-Bolland-Hossa
Bickell-Kruger-Frolik
Carcillo-Mayers-Smith
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08-31-2011, 03:12 AM
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no interest. all I would be willing would be 1st + Olesz or a 2nd

no way STL agrees to this

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I really like Sharp, base a deal around that?
Sharp, at this point, is a good deal more valuable than McDonald.

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Considering McDonald plays left wing for us, it really doesn't matter if Backes and Berglund are centers. And since Perron is still recovering, McDonald is even less likely to be traded.

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If//When the Blues fall out of the playoff race around the deadline, this is definitely one to revisit. McDonald would be an excellent fit on the Hawks. I don't think he'd cost much to acquire either, maybe our late first and that's it.

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Blues will finisn higher in the standings than the Hawks will...no way will STL trade their top-line winger to a division rival.

What would CHI want for Hjalmarsson if/when they fall out of the PO race?

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Blues will finisn higher in the standings than the Hawks will...no way will STL trade their top-line winger to a division rival.

What would CHI want for Hjalmarsson if/when they fall out of the PO race?
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And McDonald isn't a #2 C ,, Sharp is fine as a #2 C
Strongly disagree on both points.

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Blues will finisn higher in the standings than the Hawks will...no way will STL trade their top-line winger to a division rival.

What would CHI want for Hjalmarsson if/when they fall out of the PO race?
Oh this so reminds me of that poll you made last year saying the Hawks would finish last in the central. And then said in no way would the Hawks finish ahead of the Blues. How did that one work out for you? And this year the Hawks will be ahead of the Blues with out much of a problem.

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Oh this so reminds me of that poll you made last year saying the Hawks would finish last in the central. And then said in no way would the Hawks finish ahead of the Blues. How did that one work out for you? And this year the Hawks will be ahead of the Blues with out much of a problem.
If we don't get hit with the injury bug like we had last season, I think at least the top 4 teams in the Central will finish within 10 points of each other and Columbus also has potential to get in there as well. In no way are the Blues a pushover and if we are healthy, we are a top 4-5 team in the West.

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If we don't get hit with the injury bug like we had last season, I think at least the top 4 teams in the Central will finish within 10 points of each other and Columbus also has potential to get in there as well. In no way are the Blues a pushover and if we are healthy, we are a top 4-5 team in the West.
While the blues are no push over, they still do not have the talent of the Hawks, Wings, Sharks, and Nucks. Would not put them over the Kings or Ducks as well. The Blues just do not have the top end talent these teams have. Everyone of those teams have two-three forwards each the are more talented then the Blues top forward alone.

Yes the Blues had injuries but so did the Hawks plus the Hawks lacked depth because of cap issues last season to start with. The Hawks had three AHL level D-men playing for the first 1/4 of the season which burnt Keith and Seabrook out after a short off-season. The Hawks do not have near the depth problems as last season and will not start out the season like last year. They where 11-12-2 in the first 24 games, and then 33-17-7 after they did not have to play a D with half AHL players.

Edit: also we had Turco starting for the first 1/4 of the season as well. Hawks are much better to start this season then they were last year.


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If we don't get hit with the injury bug like we had last season, I think at least the top 4 teams in the Central will finish within 10 points of each other and Columbus also has potential to get in there as well. In no way are the Blues a pushover and if we are healthy, we are a top 4-5 team in the West.
Weren't the Blues a top 4-5 team in the West in 09-10? Weren't the Blues a top 4-5 team in the West in 10-11? Weren't the Blues out of the playoffs both years? Yeah, that's what I thought.

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If//When the Blues fall out of the playoff race around the deadline, this is definitely one to revisit. McDonald would be an excellent fit on the Hawks. I don't think he'd cost much to acquire either, maybe our late first and that's it.
Why would you believe the bolded to be true. He's got another year on his deal, he's a 50-60 (+) player if he he's healthy (which we'd have to assume he is if he's available in a trade), and he's a proven winner in the playoffs. I'd be willing to be the house that another contender would offer more than a crappy late 1st for him if he was available at the deadline this year.

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Why would you believe the bolded to be true. He's got another year on his deal, he's a 50-60 (+) player if he he's healthy (which we'd have to assume he is if he's available in a trade), and he's a proven winner in the playoffs. I'd be willing to be the house that another contender would offer more than a crappy late 1st for him if he was available at the deadline this year.
He's 34 years old. They should be very happy with one 1st round pick. If there is a team stupid enough to give a 1st and 2nd or two 1sts, then let them have him.

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He's 34 years old. They should be very happy with one 1st round pick. If there is a team stupid enough to give a 1st and 2nd or two 1sts, then let them have him.
McDonald's worth to the Blues >>> 1st round pick. I don't know why we're even discussing this, as the Blues would never trade McDonald this season, and especially not to anybody in Central, for anything other than a MASSIVE overpayment.

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He's 34 years old. They should be very happy with one 1st round pick. If there is a team stupid enough to give a 1st and 2nd or two 1sts, then let them have him.
But he's not a rental. As a rental, maybe that's his value, but he's got another year left on his deal. Everyone gets so wrapped up in age...if he's healthy and productive, then being 34 isn't going to preclude the Blues from getting fair value for him. And fair value for him is more than a late 1st.

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Weren't the Blues a top 4-5 team in the West in 09-10? Weren't the Blues a top 4-5 team in the West in 10-11? Weren't the Blues out of the playoffs both years? Yeah, that's what I thought.
I would hardly say we were a top 4-5 team in 09-10. We barely made the playoffs a year before that, so what would be the justification for us being top 4-5 the year after? Last season, I would say we were a 6-8 team, but were hit hard with the injury bug. Even the upcoming season, most predictions are that the Blues squeak into the last couple playoff spots, and I agree that we should be around the 6-8 seed.

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