HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Western Conference > Pacific Division > San Jose Sharks
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

HF Sharks 13 (PS3): New Game, Old Thread

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
09-10-2012, 11:45 PM
  #576
ChubbChubby
Using tilt controls!
 
ChubbChubby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 3,142
vCash: 500
Only 24-hours stores like Walmart.

Or if you live in Canada.

ChubbChubby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-10-2012, 11:50 PM
  #577
TNT8592
Registered User
 
TNT8592's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SAN JOSE
Country: United States
Posts: 371
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chubbs View Post
Only 24-hours stores like Walmart.

Or if you live in Canada.

cool! thats what i thought but i just wasnt sure. thx

TNT8592 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-10-2012, 11:58 PM
  #578
The Nemesis
Global Moderator
Semper Tyrannus
 
The Nemesis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Langley, BC
Country: Canada
Posts: 50,535
vCash: 500
ok, hopefully I'll be getting my copy tomorrow afternoon. I'll make sure to get the team set up tomorrow night and send out some of the initial invites. That said, my play time will probably be non-existent until the weekend, as I've got a week full of very early mornings, which means getting a good night's sleep (and not being up until 1:30-2am to play hockey).

__________________

"Do you know what "nemesis" means? A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent."

Sorry, I am not taking signature requests at this time.
The Nemesis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 12:24 AM
  #579
Cloned
Dial M for Michelle
 
Cloned's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 23,037
vCash: 500
I'd recommend everyone hold off on buying this until EA confirms the framerate issue has been fixed.

EASHL is probably at least 50% of why you'd buy NHL 13, and it's basically unplayable at times due to this problem.

__________________

Sig AND X-mas avatar courtesy of The Nemesis

"Pull yourself together!" - Solid Snake to Otacon, multiple times in the series
Cloned is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 01:58 AM
  #580
Cloned
Dial M for Michelle
 
Cloned's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 23,037
vCash: 500
EA is finally able to reproduce the issue:

Quote:
At this point we've been able to reproduce the issue in our high tech labs (ie Burnaby offices) and are looking into a solution. We'll keep you guys updated.
As posted on the EA NHL forums.

My recommendation still stands. Do not buy the game until they confirm that this has been fixed. I'd assume it can and will be, but stranger things have happened. Although I can imagine the backlash if EA said "sorry, this is a hard-coded issue that can't be patched or fixed, we'll have to re-release the game after a few more weeks of re-coding."

At the very least, if you're going to buy the game tomorrow, keep your receipts.

Cloned is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 02:05 AM
  #581
WTFetus
Moderator
Marlov
 
WTFetus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: San Francisco
Country: United States
Posts: 12,453
vCash: 500
I don't see the point of waiting for EA to fix the problem before buying it. It's not like they'll lower the price-tag in a week or two.

I don't plan on playing that much (especially when Blands 2 comes out ), but a glitchy game is better than no game at all.

WTFetus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 02:13 AM
  #582
Cloned
Dial M for Michelle
 
Cloned's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 23,037
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by WTFetus View Post
I don't see the point of waiting for EA to fix the problem before buying it. It's not like they'll lower the price-tag in a week or two.

I don't plan on playing that much (especially when Blands 2 comes out ), but a glitchy game is better than no game at all.
No, but they could re-release the game on a fixed disc that you'll have to go out and buy again anyways.

Or worse yet, it may not be fixable at all.

Likely, it'll be patchable, but like I said, stranger things have happened.

Cloned is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 02:19 AM
  #583
WTFetus
Moderator
Marlov
 
WTFetus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: San Francisco
Country: United States
Posts: 12,453
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloned View Post
No, but they could re-release the game on a fixed disc that you'll have to go out and buy again anyways.
Worst case scenario is that they'll release some >8gb patch for everyone to download (and the system checks if you have the disk in the drive).
Hypothetically, even if you had to buy the game again, a game now is better than no game, even if it's glitchy.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloned View Post
Or worse yet, it may not be fixable at all.
Sounds more like a server issue. This didn't happen in the previous games, so worse worst case scenario is that they revert back to whatever they did in NHL 12.

WTFetus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 02:22 AM
  #584
Cloned
Dial M for Michelle
 
Cloned's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 23,037
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by WTFetus View Post
Worst case scenario is that they'll release some >8gb patch for everyone to download (and the system checks if you have the disk in the drive).
Didn't know the PS3 could do that.

Quote:
Sounds more like a server issue. This didn't happen in the previous games, so worse worst case scenario is that they revert back to whatever they did in NHL 12.
I don't think it is. OVP plays fine. I haven't played HUT yet (I won't be able to until I buy the full game). I'm not sure it's a server issue - this is graphical stuttering that appears to be either a memory loading issue or some sort of bug in how the graphical engine renders specifically in OTP. It's not button lag or even time lag, you can see your player responding right away to your commands, it's just that the actual full animation occurs in slow motion and you see frames stuttering during the animation.

Cloned is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 02:36 AM
  #585
WTFetus
Moderator
Marlov
 
WTFetus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: San Francisco
Country: United States
Posts: 12,453
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloned View Post
Didn't know the PS3 could do that.
It can.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloned View Post
I don't think it is. OVP plays fine. I haven't played HUT yet (I won't be able to until I buy the full game). I'm not sure it's a server issue - this is graphical stuttering that appears to be either a memory loading issue or some sort of bug in how the graphical engine renders specifically in OTP. It's not button lag or even time lag, you can see your player responding right away to your commands, it's just that the actual full animation occurs in slow motion and you see frames stuttering during the animation.
Still seems like something they could fix with a patch. I think a good number of us play OVP, BeAGM, and HUT more than you think too.

WTFetus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 02:41 AM
  #586
Cloned
Dial M for Michelle
 
Cloned's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 23,037
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by WTFetus View Post
It can.
My bad.

Quote:
Still seems like something they could fix with a patch. I think a good number of us play OVP, BeAGM, and HUT more than you think too.
I hope so.

That's why I said 50% of the reason why you'd buy NHL.

I'd assume the breakdown generally works like this:

EASHL 40-50%
OVP 10%
BeAGM 25%
HUT 15%

Cloned is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 02:45 AM
  #587
WTFetus
Moderator
Marlov
 
WTFetus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: San Francisco
Country: United States
Posts: 12,453
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloned View Post
I'd assume the breakdown generally works like this:

EASHL 40-50%
OVP 10%
BeAGM 25-35%
HUT 15%
Nah man, OVP is way more than 10%.
And I forgot about Online Shootouts.

WTFetus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 02:48 AM
  #588
Cloned
Dial M for Michelle
 
Cloned's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 23,037
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by WTFetus View Post
Nah man, OVP is way more than 10%.
And I forgot about Online Shootouts.


EASHL is still the largest portion of the pie, though, no matter which way you cut it.

If you add up all the OVP/Shootout/BeaGM/HUT games you played from last year, does it add up to all the EASHL/OTP games you played?

Cloned is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 02:55 AM
  #589
WTFetus
Moderator
Marlov
 
WTFetus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: San Francisco
Country: United States
Posts: 12,453
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloned View Post
If you add up all the OVP/Shootout/BeaGM/HUT games you played from last year, does it add up to all the EASHL/OTP games you played?
Probably a little more. I played a ton of OVP and Shootouts last year (a lot unranked since I didn't trust myself yet ).

Plus I think a lot of us only played EASHL because other people were on, not that we really preferred one over the other. If we were the only ones on (or in this case EASHL being unplayable), I think we'd touch the other modes a lot more. Not to mention there is that whole GM Connected thing now.

WTFetus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 02:58 AM
  #590
Cloned
Dial M for Michelle
 
Cloned's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 23,037
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by WTFetus View Post
Probably a little more. I played a ton of OVP and Shootouts last year (a lot unranked since I didn't trust myself yet ).

Plus I think a lot of us only played EASHL because other people were on, not that we really preferred one over the other. If we were the only ones on (or in this case EASHL being unplayable), I think we'd touch the other modes a lot more. Not to mention there is that whole GM Connected thing now.
Oh for sure, but it still sucks to have one entire game mode (and a popular one at that) be virtually unplayable at release. It would also suck if the patch they released results in having to start all over in everything (i.e. old save game files and ranked results are incompatible with the new patch/server).

Honestly this seems like a big enough issue that I could see that happening. Heck, it took EA three days to fully identify the issue. People started complaining right off the bat and they couldn't reproduce the problem until today.

Cloned is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 03:00 AM
  #591
WTFetus
Moderator
Marlov
 
WTFetus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: San Francisco
Country: United States
Posts: 12,453
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloned View Post
Oh for sure, but it still sucks to have one entire game mode (and a popular one at that) be virtually unplayable at release. It would also suck if the patch they released results in having to start all over in everything (i.e. old save game files and ranked results are incompatible with the new patch/server).
I don't think the second part will happen, but I generally agree. But my previous point still stands. A glitchy game is better than no game at all, especially considering all the other game modes that aren't glitchy.

Not that this even relates to me since, like Nem, I don't plan on playing until the weekend.

WTFetus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 03:04 AM
  #592
ChubbChubby
Using tilt controls!
 
ChubbChubby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 3,142
vCash: 500
50% playing EASHL.
40% loading the stupid laggy menus.
10% destroying fetus in unranked OVP.

ChubbChubby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 03:08 AM
  #593
Cloned
Dial M for Michelle
 
Cloned's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 23,037
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by WTFetus View Post
I don't think the second part will happen, but I generally agree. But my previous point still stands. A glitchy game is better than no game at all, especially considering all the other game modes that aren't glitchy.

Not that this even relates to me since, like Nem, I don't plan on playing until the weekend.
You should definitely play a bunch this year though - without you it'd be the Sharks without Marc-Brent Boyle.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chubbs View Post
50% playing EASHL.
40% loading the stupid laggy menus.
10% destroying fetus in unranked OVP.
Now that's more like it!

Cloned is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 03:13 AM
  #594
WTFetus
Moderator
Marlov
 
WTFetus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: San Francisco
Country: United States
Posts: 12,453
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chubbs View Post
10% destroying fetus in unranked OVP.
I'll make an HF Sharks League and then we'll see who gets the last laugh.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloned View Post
You should definitely play a bunch this year though - without you it'd be the Sharks without Marc-Brent Boyle.
With the new skating engine, I'll probably be more like Niclas Lebda. I might wait until I get at least Vet 3 before clubbing too much.

WTFetus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 03:20 AM
  #595
Cloned
Dial M for Michelle
 
Cloned's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 23,037
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by WTFetus View Post
With the new skating engine, I'll probably be more like Niclas Lebda. I might wait until I get at least Vet 3 before clubbing too much.
It definitely takes getting used to, but what better place to do that than surrounded by people you know (electronically) and love (playing video games with)?

Cloned is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 03:27 AM
  #596
WTFetus
Moderator
Marlov
 
WTFetus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: San Francisco
Country: United States
Posts: 12,453
vCash: 500
How are the bot D? Maybe I'll play F.

WTFetus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 03:35 AM
  #597
Cloned
Dial M for Michelle
 
Cloned's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 23,037
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by WTFetus View Post
How are the bot D? Maybe I'll play F.
Bot D are good this year, unless they get caught flat footed, which happens here and there. They are much better positionally and pick off passes better.

They almost don't matter though, because every goalie in the game plays like Dominik Hasek in his prime.

Cloned is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 03:51 AM
  #598
Cloned
Dial M for Michelle
 
Cloned's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 23,037
vCash: 500
OK, I'm going over all the attribute caps this year:

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/8972923.page

And it sounds ridiculous, but I think grinder might be the best build this year:

Grinder (based on Ryan Callahan and Jannik Hansen)
XP Cap Boosted Cap (+9)
Deking 80 89
Hand-Eye 84 93
Off Awareness 76 85
Passing 76 85
Puck Control 78 87
Slap Shot Accuracy 76 85
Slap Shot Power 78 87
Wrist Shot Accuracy 76 85
Wrist Shot Power 78 87
Aggressiveness 82 91
Body Checking 87 96
Def Awareness 85 94
Discipline 80 89
Faceoffs 87 96
Fighting Skill 80 89
Shot Blocking 85 94
Stick Checking 85 94
Acceleration 84 93
Agility 80 89
Balance 80 89
Durability 85 94
Endurance 85 94
Speed 87 96
Strength 80 89

I'd probably apply boosts like this:

+5 WSA +5 Def. Awareness +5 Stick Checking
+5 Agility +5 Speed +5 Acceleration
+5 Endurance +5 Off. Awareness +5 Hand-Eye
+5 Deking +5 Passing +5 Puck Control

They nerfed TWF defensively and offensively, and Playmaker isn't so superior offensively to offset the average defense and athletics.

Cloned is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 03:56 AM
  #599
ChubbChubby
Using tilt controls!
 
ChubbChubby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 3,142
vCash: 500
Screw being a Grinder.

We all know the superior player type is Tough Guy.

ChubbChubby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
09-11-2012, 04:02 AM
  #600
Cloned
Dial M for Michelle
 
Cloned's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 23,037
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chubbs View Post
Screw being a Grinder.

We all know the superior player type is Tough Guy.
When we all get our Legend 3s this year and are in the playoffs again we should try that goon thing again.

Except we should just make all our guys 6'9 and form a wall at the blue line.

Because of the incidental contact in the game, you can basically check anyone trying to cross the blue line just by standing there.

Cloned is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:25 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2015 All Rights Reserved.