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The biggest change in the top-25 was due to rapid depopulation in Charlotte, which was hit very hard by the banking crisis and lost a lot of jobs in that industry. Amazing how few of these cities are taking on population right now, especially the larger cities and some of the "hot" small cities of recent years.
Last edited by tarheelhockey: 09-01-2011 at 02:29 PM.
It's not an increase in population, just more homes with TV's.
While you are right that they are counting homes with TVs, honestly I think it has more to do with population movement than anything. It's hard to imagine the number of people with/without TV sets varies much over time.
From Luke DeCock on Twitter:
Canes and Preds will each get 40 games in Atlanta TV market this year, GM Jim Rutherford said today. Possible preseason game there in 2012.
That's more games than the Thrashers ever had on tv in any season.
While you are right that they are counting homes with TVs, honestly I think it has more to do with population movement than anything. It's hard to imagine the number of people with/without TV sets varies much over time.
Many people have cut the cord because of the economy. Also, younger people are using the internet more often to view shows. Most of these cities aren't losing population, they are losing TV sets. Check the census numbers. Washington D.C. is one of the fastest growing areas in the US. Many of those new people to the area are young professionals that have cut the cord and rely on the internet instead. I don't think it's a coincidence that many of the cities with gains in TV's are places with older populations (Phoenix, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, etc.)
Many people have cut the cord because of the economy. Also, younger people are using the internet more often to view shows. Most of these cities aren't losing population, they are losing TV sets. Check the census numbers. Washington D.C. is one of the fastest growing areas in the US. Many of those new people to the area are young professionals that have cut the cord and rely on the internet instead. I don't think it's a coincidence that many of the cities with gains in TV's are places with older populations (Phoenix, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, etc.)
And if the Bay Area had managed to cut 6,510 more cords, then the Sharks would have been eligible for Revenue Sharing again this year.
Kent, DE ~ New Castle, DE ~ Atlantic, NJ ~ Burlington, NJ ~ Camden, NJ ~ Cape May, NJ ~ Cumberland, NJ ~ Gloucester, NJ ~ Mercer, NJ ~ Salem, NJ ~ Berks, PA ~ Bucks, PA ~ Chester, PA ~ Delaware, PA ~ Lehigh, PA ~ Montgomery, PA ~ Northampton, PA ~ Philadelphia, PA
Winnipeg, MB (September 23, 2011) – The long awaited return of the Winnipeg Jets scored big for the new regional channel TSN Jets Tuesday night. Data from BBM Canada confirms that more than 490,000 viewers in the Jets broadcast region watched some or all of Tuesday’s pre-season game against the Columbus Blue Jackets.
The audience Reach is especially impressive given that TSN Jets is available in approximately 500,000 homes throughout Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Nunavut and the Northwest Territories, and parts of Northwestern Ontario.
“This is an incredible debut for a new television service,” said Stewart Johnston, President, TSN. “I can’t ever remember this type of excitement for a pre-season game. We are looking forward to building on this momentum throughout the season.”
The average audience for the full broadcast on Tuesday was 148,000 total viewers. TSN Jets regional coverage continues tomorrow night with Winnipeg @ Nashville at 5:45 p.m. CT.
TSN Jets is off to a good start with 490 000 viewers tuning in.
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TSN JETS CHANNEL SCORES BIG RATINGS FOR WINNIPEG OPENER
The long awaited return of the Winnipeg Jets scored big for the new regional channel TSN Jets Tuesday night. Data from BBM Canada confirms that more than 490,000 viewers in the Jets broadcast region watched some or all of Tuesday's pre-season game against the Columbus Blue Jackets.
Those numbers are why the NHL need to move at least one more team to Oh Canada and try to streamline the TV deals on a National/Local/Regional level.
The NHL is getting ***** in Canada in terms of TV money and it has to stop.
The NHL gets around 300 million from the national deals in Canada alone not counting the regional deals. On a per capita basis that would be the same as a 3 billion deal in the US.
Pens preseason game outdrew all but two teams regular season average.
Other interesting tidbits are over 9000 season ticket waiting list. Not bad for a bunch of bandwagoners.
During the town hall meeting, which was invitation-only, team president David Morehouse revealed the team's season ticket waiting list has climbed to 9,000. When he asked how many in attendance were added to the list of active ticket holders this season, only a smattering of applause was heard -- an indication of how little turnover there has been.
Morehouse outlined some of the franchise's accomplishments off the ice, including its ongoing streak of 210 consecutive sellouts -- a run that began at the now-closed Civic Arena, which is due to be demolished beginning Monday. The Penguins played there from 1967-2010.
The Penguins, Morehouse said, were No. 1 in NHL merchandise sales last season and No. 1 in local TV ratings. A preseason telecast against Detroit last week drew a higher rating than the regular season average of all but two other franchises.
That's actually higher than some nights. The show is averaging around 10,000 viewers while Daren Rovell's ratings have dropped every week since it premiered. This is from a couple of weeks ago but it's still valid overall to Versus' woes. From http://paranoidpuck.wordpress.com/20...e-for-viewers/
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Versus unveiled a slate of new programming over the last couple of weeks but it is yet to translate to much rating success. NBC SportsTalk has been a complete bomb since its debut. It had a high of 14,000 viewers last week while it hovered around a measly 10,000 for the entire week. That would put it in a battle with the Florida Panthers, Phoenix Coyotes and Atlanta Thrashers for viewers if we were comparing it to local NHL ratings.
Darren Rovell’s GameOn sports business show didn’t fare much better with a debut of 36,000 viewers. The debut of College Football Talk also brought in 36,000 viewers. The much hyped NFL Turning Point was the high point with 126,000 viewers while Pro Football Talk was behind it with 90,000 viewers. Those ratings are comparable with ESPN2′s Jim Rome Is Burning and the new Numbers Don’t Lie which air in the middle of the afternoon.
When it comes to the preseason games, I really question the decision to pick up any games. I think this was an experiment but it doesn't appear to be paying off much. It's probably better than whatever Versus would air in that timeslot but those ratings are brutal. One think I don't get is why they scheduled a game at the same time as NHL Network. On several nights this past week, the nets were competing against each other, airing two different games. It's funny that they shied away from doing it during the playoffs, but found it okay to compete during the preseason when nobody's watching.
While you are right that they are counting homes with TVs, honestly I think it has more to do with population movement than anything. It's hard to imagine the number of people with/without TV sets varies much over time.
Are you kidding? A good 75% of my friends don't own TVs. For many, many younger people it's just a totally unnecessary expense, especially when you can watch everything on your computer. I imagine a lot of people have ditched their TVs as the economy has stagnated.
I, for one, wasn't even aware that Versus also had pre-season games on. Don't pay a lot of attention to those games, but I would have tuned in, for background noise.
I was going to check in at some point, to see what they were showing, but then I figured...nah, they won't show any games until the season starts.
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