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09-02-2011, 01:16 AM
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The twin boys' father, Pat Smith, told the event organisers the following day that his sons had swapped places, because he could tell "they weren't feeling right about it".
Good for him, don't put your kids in an uncomfortable situation just for some quick cash. For all we know that might have to have been lying about that for the rest of their lives

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09-02-2011, 01:23 AM
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Why the hell did they fess up? Idiots just lost 50 Grand
Maybe morality doesn't come with a price tag.

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09-02-2011, 01:33 AM
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Again, 90% of people don't actually read the story.

The family is happy, 20k was donated to the Owatonna Youth Hockey Association in their names, which is where the two kids play hockey. I think all is well in the end, no evil corporation (they say LEGALLY, they cannot comply to the 50k handout) or stupid parents here. The kids themselves were uncomfortable with the unintentional shenanigan.

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09-02-2011, 02:17 AM
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Honesty never pays

Corporations will take the first chance they get to screw you over, screw them at all opportunities you get.
The corporation did nothing wrong. If the boy who won the draw couldn't make it, they shouldn't have won the money.. plain and simple. Cheating isn't right just because these boys were twins.

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09-02-2011, 02:24 AM
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What a ******* dad to rob his kids of 50k like that

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09-02-2011, 02:26 AM
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Good for him, don't put your kids in an uncomfortable situation just for some quick cash. For all we know that might have to have been lying about that for the rest of their lives
They can drop the act AFTER they get the 50K.

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09-02-2011, 02:30 AM
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What a ******* dad to rob his kids of 50k like that
money can't buy integrity...

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09-02-2011, 05:59 AM
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You stupid ****.This 50k here.I think you should teach your kids that you have to tell a little white lie sometimes.Dad could have given a lot of good to the family with this money.And maybe teach how to deal with money(saving and stuff)

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09-02-2011, 06:25 AM
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Good on the dad, good on the kids. It seems everything may have worked out on this one. The dad did the right thing, the kids learned a valuable lesson, they might also benefit from the donation from the corporation to their hockey league.

Yea, the family didn't get the 50k, on the bright side of the coin, they're not any poorer, and they did a good thing. They may not be rewarded now, but they'll get something good coming to them someday.

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09-02-2011, 06:51 AM
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I would call my father a fool if he gave away 50k like that. There is more to life than money, but until you know what struggling to pay your bills and somehow managing to feed your family feels like, money is pretty damn important.
And what if the family didn't need the 50k?

Because you're bad at managing your income doesn't mean everyone else is, not everybody struggles to pay their bills, for all we know that 50k could've just been spent on a brand new car.

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09-02-2011, 06:56 AM
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Good on the dad, good on the kids. It seems everything may have worked out on this one. The dad did the right thing, the kids learned a valuable lesson, they might also benefit from the donation from the corporation to their hockey league.

Yea, the family didn't get the 50k, on the bright side of the coin, they're not any poorer, and they did a good thing. They may not be rewarded now, but they'll get something good coming to them someday.

this,

not to mention that the twin who won the 50k would've repeatedly have been called his brothers name and the truth would've came out sooner or later, what's worse? being busted? or fessing up? had the family lied and been figered out later, it would've made matters a WHOLE lot worse, with fraud and whatnot.

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09-02-2011, 07:29 AM
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I know for a fact that my dad wouldn't have told them the truth.
I know for a fact that my dad would have told them the truth...

BTW, I saw the family's house on the news...that family doesn't "need" 50k, they appeared to be doing more than alright...Probably a result of the dad's morals helping him succeed in life..

Does anyone here have a professional standard or reputation to uphold? If I was caught knowingly committing fraud (see, letting the twin get the 50k) I would likely lose my job...

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09-02-2011, 08:12 AM
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I would have been pissed the **** off for quite some time if my dad did that personally. That's 50k. That's close to some peoples salaries for a year. This isn't a once in a lifetime lesson, you can teach that honesty lesson so many times.


If I was a dad, I would have taken the money and put it into their university funds (Well, after buying a TV..).

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09-02-2011, 08:40 AM
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The corporation did nothing wrong. If the boy who won the draw couldn't make it, they shouldn't have won the money.. plain and simple. Cheating isn't right just because these boys were twins.
Corporations cheat all the time. They'll do anything to make a profit, they don't pay taxes and get subsidized instead, they'll lobby and have politicians on payrolls to get the legislation they want passed, they'll outsource, send jobs overseas, close down shops here to make a profit, they'll pollute rivers or the air or use cancerigen molecules in their products if they can get away with it. So I see no valid reason to be honest with them rather than screw them over. They are not honest with YOU. Hell I work for a corporation and I know clients get screwed all the time.


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Hey, if they didn't know that being honest about this situation was going to result in losing the money, I don't know what to say. You have to learn to read situations and do what you have to do.

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, you can teach that honesty lesson so many times.
Teaching your kids honesty isn't a part-time commitment.

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09-02-2011, 11:15 AM
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Pathetic that people are chirping the father (side note: I truly hope this isn't an indication of today's society). He did the right thing. It sucks but being honest is probably one of the most important lessons to learn in your life.

The corporation had the right to pull the funds; they must be laughing to the bank. This will cause a whole bunch of free promotion, albeit controversial. As they say any publicity is better than none. Plus they spun it to give out less money for the prize and get all the promotion. Smart business move.

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09-02-2011, 12:15 PM
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This was about Father vs morality. It had nothing to do with the corporation.
Sure it did. Corporations will always find loopholes to screw over people so why not do the same thing right back? Unfortunately money is really important.

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09-02-2011, 12:26 PM
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did the right thing!

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Nice to see that society (more than 50% of people in this thread) thinks that it is OK to screw the insurance company and cause higher rates for everyone, and that it is OK for a father to teach kids that lying is OK if you get away with it.

1. Enough people aren't old enough in the thread to have to pay insurance.
2. No one in the thread actually has kids.

Why else would they advocate stealing from an insurance company?

(In your alternate ****ed up world...)

As this story unfolds, the insurance company finds out through a hot tip that the Smiths defrauded the insurance company out of $50 grand, the father goes to jail and the kids join a gang to help support their crack habit.

This next generation is in good hands...

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09-02-2011, 01:29 PM
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Stealing from an insurance company equates to being Robin Hood.

They're fearmongers that make money out of thin air...

If I have the opportunity to steal from them, I'd do it. They've been robbing my ass for over a decade, give and take I say.

As for the dad, mine would have lied and taken the 50k, it's a victimless crime. Whoever was giving out that money gypped the charity by 30k too, so much for that.

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09-02-2011, 01:37 PM
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Stealing from an insurance company equates to being Robin Hood.

They're fearmongers that make money out of thin air...

If I have the opportunity to steal from them, I'd do it. They've been robbing my ass for over a decade, give and take I say.

As for the dad, mine would have lied and taken the 50k, it's a victimless crime. Whoever was giving out that money gypped the charity by 30k too, so much for that.
Well, I suppose that's something to tell the judge when you're up for defrauding a company for 50k...I don't think he'd care though...

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09-02-2011, 01:39 PM
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lol how would it be stealing? He made the shot.

The 2 kids have the same DNA. Dad is a moron.

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09-02-2011, 01:45 PM
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Wasn't the father the one who suggested the sibling swap in the first place.
Yes, why did he do that?

And my guess, the father has a pretty good economy, and just wanted attention and thought it was worth 50 grand.

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09-02-2011, 01:47 PM
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Sucks for the family but they did the right thing. Good for them.

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