Physical Offensive Defensemen

FootKnight · 09-02-2011, 06:19 PM

We hear about physical defensive defensemen and smooth-skating offensive defensemen all the time, but it seems that the physical offensive defensemen is a bit rare.

Now, I'm a Kings fan, so naturally I dislike Blake, but I can still acknowledge that he was good. He wasn't Scott Stevens, but he was a fearsome hitter, he wasn't Ray Bourque, but he was an accomplished scoring defenseman, and he wasn't focused on for his defense.

I'm trying to think of defensemen that currently fit this mold.

Wheatley · 09-02-2011, 06:20 PM

Andrew Alberts

startainfection · 09-02-2011, 06:22 PM

wiz but hes not to good

SJSharks2010 · 09-02-2011, 06:24 PM

Shea Weber is probably the closest fit. imo.

CampingintheSnow · 09-02-2011, 06:24 PM

Phaneuf earlier in his career none that I can think of now.

Kershaw · 09-02-2011, 06:24 PM

Phaneuf and Weber perfectly describes the thread title.

Bank Shot · 09-02-2011, 06:26 PM

There are a few of them out there.

Phaneuf
Bieksa
Subban
Jovanovksi
Giordano
Souray
McCabe
Weber
J.Johnson

Chazz Reinhold · 09-02-2011, 06:37 PM

I think Doughty should be included in this, too.

Don't worry, Downie was perfectly fine after this nice dive.

FootKnight · 09-02-2011, 07:04 PM

Weber and early-career Phaneuf are who I was thinking of when I was typing the OP.

I'm hoping Doughty gets there too. There were times when he was absolutely physically dominant through several games last year.

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Originally Posted by Bank Shot

There are a few of them out there.

Phaneuf
Bieksa
Subban
Jovanovksi
Giordano
Souray
McCabe
Weber
J.Johnson

This definitely a good list, although none are as good as Blake was in both hitting and scoring. They are all good physical offensive defenesmen though.

Phaneuf - was there early, but fell off a bit. He was the new Blake when he came into the league.
Bieksa - Isn't as big of a hitter and injuries have hampered him
Subban - Much like Doughty described above
Jovocop - Fits the mold well, one of the best, but not quite Blake level on either
Giordano - I wasn't really sold on him until dominated Brown physically in that one game. He's not offensive enough though
Souray - A great one a few years ago, although we all know what has happened now
McCabe - Another great example. Definitely in that mold
Weber - Definitely up there, especially with scoring. Isn't the biggest hitter, but always physical
Johnson - Was in college and maybe his first couple years, but the hitting is almost non-existent anymore. He's hoping he gets back to it as he progresses.

Great list, thanks.

hadrian · 09-02-2011, 07:11 PM

Michael Del Zotto seems to want to fit this mold, anyway - 37 points and 162 hits in his rookie year. He may well do so if he learns to lay a hit without getting himself completely out of position.

SwedeSpeedBackstrom · 09-02-2011, 07:18 PM

Pronger

Nobody is more willing to hit you in the jaw with an elbow than he

KaraLupin · 09-02-2011, 07:20 PM

James Wiznieski

**Jack Bourdain** · 09-02-2011, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SwedeSpeedBackstrom

Pronger

Nobody is more willing to hit you in the jaw with an elbow than he

Not his fault that he's just taller than everyone else.

GrigsAndGirgs · 09-02-2011, 07:24 PM

Myers. He started to impose his physical game last season, and that should continue as he bulks up more.

**Milan the Great** · 09-02-2011, 07:26 PM

First name that came to mind was Kris Letang

I Will Son · 09-02-2011, 07:45 PM

Talk Hockey · 09-02-2011, 07:49 PM

Phaneuf could be one if he can play like he did in the second half last season.

**Rhodes 81** · 09-02-2011, 07:53 PM

bogosian was the definition of physical offensive d-man until he forgot how to play hockey.

CampingintheSnow · 09-02-2011, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chazz Reinhold

I think Doughty should be included in this, too.

Don't worry, Downie was perfectly fine after this nice dive.

I never knew Doughty was that physical. Thanks for the insight.

CampingintheSnow · 09-02-2011, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LoveDaSwords

Myers. He started to impose his physical game last season, and that should continue as he bulks up more.

No kidding with that size, all he has to do is get a mean streak in him and look out.

CampingintheSnow · 09-02-2011, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bank Shot

There are a few of them out there.

Phaneuf
Bieksa
Subban
Jovanovksi
Giordano
Souray
McCabe
Weber
J.Johnson

Bieksa and J.Johnson are not offensive defenseman.

JWells16 · 09-02-2011, 08:08 PM

Kris Letang can play pretty physically for his size, but he doesn't compare to Weber and Phaneuf.

GrigsAndGirgs · 09-02-2011, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CountDownToImpact

No kidding with that size, all he has to do is get a mean streak in him and look out.

It's already started...

Zen Arcade · 09-02-2011, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JWells16

Kris Letang can play pretty physically for his size, but he doesn't compare to Weber and Phaneuf.

Yeah, Letang is a surprisingly hard hitter.

Chazz Reinhold · 09-02-2011, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CountDownToImpact

I never knew Doughty was that physical. Thanks for the insight.

It's a very underrated part of his game.

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Originally Posted by CountDownToImpact

Bieksa and J.Johnson are not offensive defenseman.

Johnson is most definitely an offensive defenseman. He's not very physical as far as big hits go. He's more of a pin and seal type of player. He has a lot of work to do on his defensive game overall, though.