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09-03-2011, 10:14 AM
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If the Habs were to deal him at the trade deadline, in, say, a package to get another player, what would he fetch?

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If the Habs were to deal him at the trade deadline, in, say, a package to get another player, what would he fetch?
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Seiing as he's a fellow Dane, I would like to see What Eller and Peter Regin could do together on the Sens. What would you guys want for him?

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He'd be worth a 2nd-rounder now but what kind of 2nd, early or late?

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If the Habs were to deal him at the trade deadline, in, say, a package to get another player, what would he fetch?
Only way for the habs to deal him in a package is for a star player. Other than that Eller is staying.

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I don't see Eller being available. He would cost a 1st at the least he has only played 1 NHL season. And to me it seems like he was limited by his coach. He has more potential then he showed last season. if Eller could be had for a 2nd I think just about every NHL GM would line up to trade for him.

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I don't see Eller being available. He would cost a 1st at the least he has only played 1 NHL season. And to me it seems like he was limited by his coach. He has more potential then he showed last season. if Eller could be had for a 2nd I think just about every NHL GM would line up to trade for him.

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he has talent but hasnt done enough yet to warrant more than a late 2nd, best to hold on to him and let him develop in hopes he produces more and increases his value

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I don't see Eller being available. He would cost a 1st at the least he has only played 1 NHL season. And to me it seems like he was limited by his coach. He has more potential then he showed last season. if Eller could be had for a 2nd I think just about every NHL GM would line up to trade for him.
not even close at this point. if Snow gave up a second for him whats Nielson worth? 2 firsts?

Nielson is much better defensively, scored almost 3 times as much and is paid 50% less than Eller, so in no way is he worth a 1st or even close by comparison


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not even close at this point. if Snow gave up a second for him whats Nielson worth? 2 firsts?

Nielson is much better defensively, scored almost 3 times as much and is paid 50% less than Eller, so in no way is he worth a 1st or even close by comparison
First, that's Nielsen not Nielson. Second, Nielsen is a pending UFA so a deadline deal is worth 20 games + playoffs. Nobody in their right mind will argue that Eller is currently better than Nielsen, but Eller will have more trade value at the deadline (and maybe now as well).

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If the Habs were to deal him at the trade deadline, in, say, a package to get another player, what would he fetch?
...depends on what else is in the package.

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he has talent but hasnt done enough yet to warrant more than a late 2nd, best to hold on to him and let him develop in hopes he produces more and increases his value



not even close at this point. if Snow gave up a second for him whats Nielson worth? 2 firsts?

Nielson is much better defensively, scored almost 3 times as much and is paid 50% less than Eller, so in no way is he worth a 1st or even close by comparison
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Nielson is 27, while Eller is 22, has more offensive potential and has more years as a RFA.

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Leblanc, Eller, 1st for Shane Doan, 2nd

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His stock will be rising shortly. Ask again next off-season. But tbh a tall, talented young centreman who gets along with everyone is not someone I'd be giving away except for stupid overpayment.

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Nielson is 27, while Eller is 22, has more offensive potential and has more years as a RFA.
says who? he hasnt shown it. Nielson is clearly better so if he's worth at best a 1st, there is no way Eller is until he produces

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So whats Kardi worth..

Eller is Plekanec 2.0 but with size, his game was a lot better than what the stats show. Its funny because Pleckanec first season was very similar to Ellers, 3/4th line, 9 goals. The Habs the next season moved Ribeiro and made Pleck their 2nd line C. I see the same happening in the next two years, with Gomez moving and Eller moving into the 2nd line C slot.

But if Eller was moved it would only for a player in a similar situation. something like Eller+ for Colin Wilson. Not really talking value here but it would be that type of trade.

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says who? he hasnt shown it. Nielson is clearly better so if he's worth at best a 1st, there is no way Eller is until he produces
Neither are worth a 1st right now. When Nielsen was his age, he was still bouncing between the Islanders and the AHL. I'd say give him time. This season's a big one for him.

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says who? he hasnt shown it. Nielson is clearly better so if he's worth at best a 1st, there is no way Eller is until he produces
May as well trade us Okposo for Gomez since Gomez outproduces him. Obviously Gomez has more value.

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says who? he hasnt shown it. Nielson is clearly better so if he's worth at best a 1st, there is no way Eller is until he produces
Eller has played 1 NHL season with 3rd-4th line minutes. He wasn't put in a position to succeed offensively by his coach. You can't compare stats of a player that played 1 nhl season to the stats of a player that played 3 and is 5 years older.....

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says who? he hasnt shown it. Nielson is clearly better so if he's worth at best a 1st, there is no way Eller is until he produces
I'm not arguing Nielson is worth a 1st, specially during the trade deadline, he is a UFA next season so a playoff team would for sure give up a later 1st for him. but you are comparing Eller and Nielson offensive potential,you can't say its Nielson until Eller produces, Nielson is 27, while Eller just finished his first season and is only 22.

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Eller has played 1 NHL season with 3rd-4th line minutes. He wasn't put in a position to succeed offensively by his coach. You can't compare stats of a player that played 1 nhl season to the stats of a player that played 3 and is 5 years older.....
i agree but thats why eller is not worth a 1st yet. until he produces hes worth way more to the Habs, than anybody else. A GM wouldnt give a first for what hes accomplished, the promise of drafting his own guy is greater

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I'm not arguing Nielson is worth a 1st, specially during the trade deadline, he is a UFA next season so a playoff team would for sure give up a later 1st for him. but you are comparing Eller and Nielson offensive potential,you can't say its Nielson until Eller produces, Nielson is 27, while Eller just finished his first season and is only 22.
yes but the question is ellers worth NOW thats the issue,

youre overlooking the actual question

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What do Habs fans think this kid can produce offensively? He obviously wasn't put into an offensive position last year, will he this year?

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yes but the question is ellers worth NOW thats the issue,

youre overlooking the actual question
The actual question was his value in general. When evaluating picks, its so simple. Say a team has a good up and coming prospect pool and only thing missing is good 2 way center and they think their are 2-3 years away from being really good, they have an extra pick in the 1st round and no promising center at that pick, you don't think they would trade that late 1st for Eller. Picks are not so simply, teams are at different stage, different needs. All that is point less because MTL wouldn't trade him for a pick.

I think the type of deal would be something like Eller+ for someone like Colin Wilson, not for picks.

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What do Habs fans think this kid can produce offensively? He obviously wasn't put into an offensive position last year, will he this year?
Not really, he won't get much PP time, but he'll have better line mates this year, probably with A.Kost and maybe with David Desharnais playing LW. Last year he played really 4th line minutes, and Jacques Martin slowly eased him into the 3rd line later on in the season.

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