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09-04-2011, 02:33 PM
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Top 5 Sabres prospects

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It will be difficult for Adam to crack the lineup with the current logjam up the middle in the Sabres depth chart.

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Completely forgot Connolly was signed by Toronto. But even so, doesn't the team have Roy, Gaustad, Hecht, and Boyes (who was moved to center)?

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Completely forgot Connolly was signed by Toronto. But even so, doesn't the team have Roy, Gaustad, Hecht, and Boyes (who was moved to center)?
You can scratch Boyes.

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Completely forgot Connolly was signed by Toronto. But even so, doesn't the team have Roy, Gaustad, Hecht, and Boyes (who was moved to center)?
Boyes is headed back to wing. Leino will play center.

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You can scratch Boyes.
Boyes and Hecht aren't natural centers; they're both better wingers. They only played center last year because of our complete LACK of depth up the middle.

Boyes is slotted as a winger for this year (him playing center was a complete disaster), with Leino actually being penciled in as the #2 center, while if Adam is NHL ready, he will be the #3 center with Hecht moving to the wing somewhere, quite possibly as Adam's LW'er.

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Completely forgot Connolly was signed by Toronto. But even so, doesn't the team have Roy, Gaustad, Hecht, and Boyes (who was moved to center)?
Our current center situation looks like:

Roy
Leino
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Goose

Depending on who goes down...Adams may be our first call up.

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Our current center situation looks like:

Roy
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Hecht
Goose

Depending on who goes down...Adams may be our first call up.
If that is the case, was my assessment of Adams having a difficult time cracking the lineup at the center position wrong?

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If that is the case, was my assessment of Adams having a difficult time cracking the lineup at the center position wrong?
Because Hecht is still more comfortable as a winger. If Adam earns a spot in camp, Hecht will likely shift to LW, which would create a line of Hecht-Adam-Boyes, which would keep together what was a very effective 4th line for us last year in Gerbe-Gaustad-Kaleta

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If that is the case, was my assessment of Adams having a difficult time cracking the lineup at the center position wrong?
I wouldn't say that's wrong, but you're reasoning was wrong. We don't have center depth. We have forward depth. (Wingers)

He has a chance of making the line up. I just think Hecht will be there to start the season, as I see Adams still a half season or full season away from being ready.

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If that is the case, was my assessment of Adams having a difficult time cracking the lineup at the center position wrong?
Absolutely not, Adam definitely has the best shot out of all our prospects to make it onto the roster. But to say that we have a glut of centers is so far from the truth made me .

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If that is the case, was my assessment of Adams having a difficult time cracking the lineup at the center position wrong?
Having 4 players that can play the center position is hardly a "logjam up the middle in the Sabres depth chart".

The fact that Adam is a natural center is likely to make it easier for him to crack the line up than any other forward prospect.

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And if Adam makes the lineup out of camp, our center situation is worse than I thought. So far the limited times I've seen Luke Adam play he DOES NOT impress me ... at. all. Yuk, no thanks. I would love for him to blow the coaches away and make it almost impossible to deny him a spot. Like Ennis and Gerbe did. And to a lesser degree Enroth has. So far I have major doubts about Adam. Just my O.

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Though it would have been nice for the Wild to pick Armia at 10th overall to pair him up alongside fellow Finn, Mikael Granlund
Why is this even in the article?

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And if Adam makes the lineup out of camp, our center situation is worse than I thought. So far the limited times I've seen Luke Adam play he DOES NOT impress me ... at. all. Yuk, no thanks. I would love for him to blow the coaches away and make it almost impossible to deny him a spot. Like Ennis and Gerbe did. And to a lesser degree Enroth has. So far I have major doubts about Adam. Just my O.
What did he do that was so bad?
He was a 20 year old first year pro and most of his recall time came when the team was playing like total ****.
As a rookie in the AHL, he nearly hit 30 goals, was over a PPG player, and won the AHL rookie of the year award.
He also put up 3 less points than Ennis did in his rookie season while playing 12 games less.

Having seen your previous posts regarding prospects though, this is totally unsurprising to see.

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Also, Gragani probably won't be starting.

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What did he do that was so bad?
He was a 20 year old first year pro and most of his recall time came when the team was playing like total ****.
As a rookie in the AHL, he nearly hit 30 goals, was over a PPG player, and won the AHL rookie of the year award.
He also put up 3 less points than Ennis did in his rookie season while playing 12 games less.

Having seen your previous posts regarding prospects though, this is totally unsurprising to see.
Without regurgitating stats to make my opinion easier to swallow for you, I was impressed when I saw Ennis and Gerbe called up. I was impressed when Roy and Pominville were called up. I was impressed with a lot of past prospects who have made the team. So the blanket statement about me not liking prospects is ignorant. I find it exhausting to pick apart shift by shift, game by game, or dissecting every little stat and studying it under a microscope. I just am not impressed SO FAR with Adam. Again, so far.

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Also, Gragani probably won't be starting.
He thoroughly impressed me during the first round of the playoffs against the Flyers. I actually thought he was one of the best players on the ice for the Sabres throughout that matchup. Figured Sabres fans, Lindy Ruff, and upper management thought likewise.

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He thoroughly impressed me during the first round of the playoffs against the Flyers. I actually thought he was one of the best players on the ice for the Sabres throughout that matchup. Figured Sabres fans, Lindy Ruff, and upper management thought likewise.
If management were really that high on him, they wouldn't have left his signing to be the last one of the RFAs and given Sekera a 4-year deal. Ffs they wouldn't have given him a two-way deal, considering he needs to clear waivers anyways (and imo very likely to be claimed).

Right now there's no spot for him in the starting lineup. Myers, Regehr, Ehrhoff, Leopold, Sekera and Weber are all in the depth chart in front of him imo.


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He thoroughly impressed me during the first round of the playoffs against the Flyers. I actually thought he was one of the best players on the ice for the Sabres throughout that matchup. Figured Sabres fans, Lindy Ruff, and upper management thought likewise.
Everyone agrees that he was very impressive during the Flyers series. That doesn't guarantee that he'll start on opening night. He'll most likely be waiting for an injury or for Sekera to find his way into the dog house.

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He thoroughly impressed me during the first round of the playoffs against the Flyers. I actually thought he was one of the best players on the ice for the Sabres throughout that matchup. Figured Sabres fans, Lindy Ruff, and upper management thought likewise.
He is very clearly the #7 right now.

(pairings subject to change every period)
Regehr-Myers
Leopold-Ehrhoff
Sekera-Weber

Gragnani isn't better than any of those 6.

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He is very clearly the #7 right now.

(pairings subject to change every period)
Regehr-Myers
Leopold-Ehrhoff
Sekera-Weber

Gragnani isn't better than any of those 6.
I think Grags has a better skill set than Weber and may very well be better but we need Webers grit in the line up.

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He is very clearly the #7 right now.

(pairings subject to change every period)
Regehr-Myers
Leopold-Ehrhoff
Sekera-Weber

Gragnani isn't better than any of those 6.
While that is true at the moment, I could see him coming in and having a great Training Camp and moving up the Depth Chart past Reggie, maybe even Weber if he doesn't continue his consistency. Unlikely, yes. Impossible, no ..

OT: Is Leopolds deal up this summer or next?

As for the arcticle I thought it was good just a few minor nitpicks, Center Depth and Grags would certainly be in the Top 6 if they weren't able to come to terms with Sekera..


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He thoroughly impressed me during the first round of the playoffs against the Flyers. I actually thought he was one of the best players on the ice for the Sabres throughout that matchup. Figured Sabres fans, Lindy Ruff, and upper management thought likewise.
He will definitely be with the team and it's likely he'll get a good amount of playing time, but one playoff series isn't enough for him to start over the other guys. It's totally possible that he could do that over the course of the season, though.

But yeah, I think we were all very impressed with his showing in the Flyers series.

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