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06-24-2015, 09:21 AM
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All Time Draft: Best of Single Season Version - Please Vote!

Fellow HOH posters. We recently completed a 6 team, single season all time draft, where the objective was to build the best team using a single season from a players career. Players from all era's and leagues world wide were eligible, but you could only select a player once.

With only 6 teams, we decided to bring the voting to the HOF section and see what people think.

So if you could possibly take 5-10 minutes and look over the rosters and pick the best team and rank everyone 1-6, I (and the 5 others) would greatly appreciate it. Any comments/questions are welcome.

Thanks!

1. Single Season All Time Draft ONLY. (Example: Team X selects Alex Ovechkin 2007-08)

2. You draft a player based on ONE SEASON, NOT A CAREER. THIS INCLUDES POSTSEASON PLAY.

3. All Players, from all eras and leagues world wide are eligible.

4. A player can ONLY BE PICKED ONCE. You pick one player and one season and he is then removed from the draft pool.

5. 20 Rounds. 12 F, 6 D, 1 G, 1 Coach


Team 1: Iron City HC

Coach: Tommy Ivan 1951-52

LWCRW
John Bucyk 70-71Jean Beliveau 55-56 (C)Gordie Howe 51-52
Frank Foyston 16-17 (A)Cyclone Taylor 14-15Mike Bossy 81-82
Dany Heatley 06-07Evgeni Malkin 08-09Andy Bathgate 58-59
Bob Gainey 78-79Frank Nighbor 16-17Claude Provost 64-65

LDRD
Ray Bourque 87-88Doug Harvey 57-58
Ebbie Goodfellow 39-40Dit Clapper 40-41 (A)
Duncan Keith 09-10Al MacInnis 88-89

G
Tim Thomas 10-11


Team 2: The Baby Devils

Jack Adams 1936-37

Busher Jackson 1931-32 - Howie Morenz 1927-28 - Guy Lafleur 1976-77
Bert Olmstead 1955-56 - Bill Cowley 1940-41 - Brett Hull 1990-91
Valeri Kharlamov 1971-72 - Mark Messier 1989-90 (C) - Punch Broadbent 1921-22
Kraut Line (Woody Dumart - Milt Schmidt - Bobby Bauer) 1939-40


Chris Pronger 1999-00 - Bobby Orr 1969-70
Jack Stewart 1942-43 - Red Kelly 1953-54
Eddie Gerard 1921-22 (A) - Scott Niedermayer 2007-06 (A)

Bernie Parent 1973-74

PP1

Mark Messier 1989-90 - Bill Cowley 1940-41 - Brett Hull 1990-91
Guy Lafleur 1976-77 - Bobby Orr 1969-70

PP2:

Busher Jackson 1931-32 - Howie Morenz 1927-28 - Valeri Kharlamov 1971-72
Chris Pronger 1999-00 - Red Kelly 1953-54

PK forwards:

Milt Schmidt 1939-40 - Woody Dumart 1939-40
Mark Messier 1989-90 - Punch Broadbent 1921-22
Howie Morenz 1927-28 - Bert Olmstead 1955-56

PK defensemen:

Chris Pronger 1999-00 - Bobby Orr 1969-70
Jack Stewart 1942-43 - Red Kelly 1953-54


Team 3: The Edmonton Wayne Coffeys

Toe Blake (55-56)

Toe Blake (38-39) - Wayne Gretzky (84-85) (A) - Martin St. Louis (03-04)
Daniel Sedin (10-11) - Joe Sakic (00-01) (C) - Charlie Conacher (34-35)
Paul Thompson (37-38) - Doug Gilmour (92-93) - Ace Bailey (28-29)
Doug Bentley (42-43) - Newsy Lalonde (18-19) - Vladimir Martinec (75-76)

Paul Coffey (84-85) - Babe Siebert (36-37) (A)
Denis Potvin (75-76) - Brad Park (77-78)
Lionel Conacher (33-34) - Jan Suchy (68-69)

Roberto Luongo (06-07)

PP1: Conacher (net presence) - Gretzky - St. Louis - Coffey - Potvin
PP2: Sedin - Sakic - Blake (net presence) - Park - Siebert

PK1: Bailey - Gilmour - Potvin - Park
PK2: St. Louis - Sakic - Conacher - Siebert[/QUOTE]


Team 4: The BOSTON SHOE TRADERS

coach - Scotty Bowman (96/97)

Bobby Hull (65/66) - Stan Mikita (66/67) - Jaromir Jagr (98/99)
Brendan Shanahan (96/97) - Steve Yzerman (88/89) - Bernie Geoffrion (60/61)
Michel Goulet (83/84) - Bryan Trottier "A" (81/82) - Jari Kurri (84/85)
Bob Probert (87/88) - Nels Stewart (25/26) - Theo Fleury (90/91)

Larry Robinson (76/77) - Pierre Pilote (64/65)
Scott Stevens "C" (93/94) - Larry Murphy (92/93)
Guy Lapointe (72/73) - Herb Gardiner "A" (26/27)

Terry Sawchuk (51/52)



Team 5:

Coach: Al Arbour 1981-82

Dickie Moore 1958-59 - Phil Esposito 1970-71 - Mark Recchi 1999-00
Ted Lindsay 1949-50 - Bobby Clarke 1975-76 (C) - Jarome Iginla 2000-01
Markus Naslund 2002-03 - Peter Forsberg 2002-03 - Bryan Hextall, Sr. 1941–42
Roy Conacher 1948-49 - Marcel Dionne 1979-80 - Rick Middleton 1983-84

Borje Salming 1976-77 - Eddie Shore 1932-33
Sprague Cleghorn 1925-26 - King Clancy (A) 1929-30
Brian Leetch 1993-94 - Tom Johnson 1958-59

Dominik Hasek 1997-98


Team 6:

Coach : Cecil Hart (1930-31)

Alexander Ovechkin (07-08) - Mario Lemieux (C) (92-93) - Bill Cook (32-33)
Paul Kariya (96-97) - Sergei Fedorov (93-94) - Maurice Richard (A) (46-47)
Vladimir Krutov (86-87) - Henrik Zetterberg (07-08) - Sergei Makarov (84-85)
Anatoli Firsov (67-68) - Eric Lindros (94-95) - Daniel Alfredsson (05-06)

Nicklas Lidstrom (A) (01-02) - Chris Chelios (88-89)
Viacheslav Fetisov (85-86) - Earl Siebert (37-38)
Rod Langway (83-84) - Rob Blake (97-98)

Ken Dryden (75-76)


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06-24-2015, 10:05 AM
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It is so hard to tell with this. I will vote for team 4 because I like the depth.

But really all teams are coin flips to me.

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It is so hard to tell with this. I will vote for team 4 because I like the depth.

But really all teams are coin flips to me.
Even as a participant I feel the same.

Look at line composition as well, ignoring the years for a while and then look at what the players actually accomplished during those years chosen. Some player's years chosen might not have been their best arguably.

The thing is though, some players were drafted for chemistry and line composition and then just take the best season while others were drafted only based on their dominant season.

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Fellow HOF posters.
The History of Football section is down the hall and on your left.


How did one team end up with both Orr and Parent? Did they get two 1st Round picks, or did the other GMs fall asleep at the wheel? They even have the Kraut Line getting 4th line minutes. It's a shame the game is only 60 minutes long, because they have enough weapons to kill you for 120.

7 Game Series: Baby Devils.
2 Game Total Goals: Cecil Hart's group.
1 Game Elimination: Wayne Coffeys.
Regular Season: Al Arbour's group.
Shinny: Iron City HC.
Bar Fight: Shoe Traders.

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The History of Football section is down the hall and on your left.


How did one team end up with both Orr and Parent? Did they get two 1st Round picks, or did the other GMs fall asleep at the wheel? They even have the Kraut Line getting 4th line minutes. It's a shame the game is only 60 minutes long, because they have enough weapons to kill you for 120.

7 Game Series: Baby Devils.
2 Game Total Goals: Cecil Hart's group.
1 Game Elimination: Wayne Coffeys.
Regular Season: Al Arbour's group.
Shinny: Iron City HC.
Bar Fight: Shoe Traders.
Disclaimer: The Coffeys are my team.

I think the Coffeys might give the Devils a run for their money in a 7 game series.

The Krauts are a great group, but their individual performances are not as good as if the Devils simply took 3 of the best seasons available. Lalonde and Martinec both had very dominant seasons in those years (particularly Lalonde), and lines 2-4 are solid defensively overall. Lalonde has particular evidence for defensive work in that particular season.

As far as how he got Orr and Parent, I took Gretzky 1st overall almost immediately without even thinking of anyone else. That was certainly a blunder! My 2nd blunder was for some reason assuming we were going to have two goalies. I was going to take Plante's 61-62 (his Hart year) for the regular season and Roy's 92-93 for the playoffs. I had to switch gears once I realized I couldn't do that.

Luongo had a pretty great ride that year though. Got substantial Hart voting, and if you look at the numbers you can see why. His team was pretty bad offensively, especially in the playoffs. I don't know how they even won a single round.


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Mod Note: Talk about adjusted height & weight moved to a thread of its own.

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The History of Football section is down the hall and on your left.


How did one team end up with both Orr and Parent? Did they get two 1st Round picks, or did the other GMs fall asleep at the wheel? They even have the Kraut Line getting 4th line minutes. It's a shame the game is only 60 minutes long, because they have enough weapons to kill you for 120.

7 Game Series: Baby Devils.
2 Game Total Goals: Cecil Hart's group.
1 Game Elimination: Wayne Coffeys.
Regular Season: Al Arbour's group.
Shinny: Iron City HC.
Bar Fight: Shoe Traders.
I like the way you think

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The disclaimer about the regular season and playoffs from one particular year does muddle stuff up a bit but having a Hart winning center and the Conn Smythe guy in Malkin as your 3rd line center has Iron city as the "best team" here IMO.

Team 6 also look very interesting but Firsov on there is a real weakness IMO and unless you had complete control of Krutov, he would be a waste.

Surprised to not see Crosby as one of the top 24 centers, an error IMO.

Bill Cowley for instance has zero points in 2 games in the season selected.

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The disclaimer about the regular season and playoffs from one particular year does muddle stuff up a bit but having a Hart winning center and the Conn Smythe guy in Malkin as your 3rd line center has Iron city as the "best team" here IMO.

Team 6 also look very interesting but Firsov on there is a real weakness IMO and unless you had complete control of Krutov, he would be a waste.

Surprised to not see Crosby as one of the top 24 centers, an error IMO.

Bill Cowley for instance has zero points in 2 games in the season selected.
I drafted Krutov, and the idea behind the draft as I understood it was take the player from the season you chose and drop them on your team sort of in isolation of their environment.

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The disclaimer about the regular season and playoffs from one particular year does muddle stuff up a bit but having a Hart winning center and the Conn Smythe guy in Malkin as your 3rd line center has Iron city as the "best team" here IMO.

Team 6 also look very interesting but Firsov on there is a real weakness IMO and unless you had complete control of Krutov, he would be a waste.

Surprised to not see Crosby as one of the top 24 centers, an error IMO.

Bill Cowley for instance has zero points in 2 games in the season selected.

Team 1 is mine.....of course i was bored and did the longest write up

The one year draft was an idea I've done on other forums before and wanted to try out at the conclusion of our regular ATD. Obviously a small group the first go around but it went smoothly. It was very interesting to see how differently the selections went given the differences in drafting off a career vs one season.

As for my team, I wanted to really try and focus on players that had dominant years, both in regular season and postseason play. Some of the all time greats simply didn't match up both the regular season and postseason playin the same year. That is why you see some big, big names not draft. My forward group has a Conn Smythe winner on every line (Beliveau, Bossy, Malkin, and Gainey) as well as Hart winners on 3 of the 4 lines if you count Nighbor who was the best player in the PCHA in 16-17.

And if you look at the write up on Thomas, i'd personally stack that season against any in the history of the league, especially the postseason.

It was a casual draft but fun nevertheless. Hopefully we can do it again in the future and get some more participation now that we did one without a hiccup.

Edit: I strongly considered Crosby but his issue is he never really had that dominant year from regular season through the postseason all in one. 09-10 is probably the closest as he was a 2nd Team AS, scored 51 goals (tied for Rocket Richard, although I think he is the outright winner, since Stamkos had more EN goals IIRC) and was 3rd in the Hart. Scored 19 points in 13 games and then obviously had a strong Olympics with the golden goal. Last year he was very strong in the regular season but really played poorly in the postseason and didn't have THAT great an Olympic run.

Just my thoughts on Sid and that's coming from a big Pittsburgh guy.


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TheoKritos,

The write ups that I had done for my team was in the week or so period everyone had to spice up their roster page. I had a couple of slow days at work and had some extra time. This was a casual effort and not meant to be any sort of proclamation of greatest

I chose to make sure people could easily see the highlights of the players I had drafted. If I had even more time i'd do the same for the 5 others, TBH, but that would take a good deal of time I don't have ATM.

I just copied and pasted the teams from our roster pages. This is fun, and I hope it gets more attention to the ATD drafts and variants. I'd love to do this again soon and get even more people involved.


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It is so hard to tell with this. I will vote for team 4 because I like the depth.

But really all teams are coin flips to me.
Team 4 was mine. In all these drafts I try to draft as a real time.....I thought this one would be easy but it wasn't because you had to figure in their best year as well as line chemistry, wondering if the linemates in reality had the same characteristics as their drafted linemates. The one thing I didn't do this time was go with the defensemen's natural side of the ice....

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I don't see this in the HoH and there are no links in this thread. If someone sends me a link, I'll vote.

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I think it was moved back to the ATD board. That's probably fine.

Either way, I declare myself the winner of this draft so we're all good now!

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I think it was moved back to the ATD board. That's probably fine.

Either way, I declare myself the winner of this draft so we're all good now!
LOL.....reminds me of my ex-wife's declaration to me one time: "There are no two sides to the story, I'm right"......you win, just because!

Someone get in touch with me for the AAA and lower drafts when the time arises.

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LOL.....reminds me of my ex-wife's declaration to me one time: "There are no two sides to the story, I'm right"......you win, just because!
Someone get in touch with me for the AAA and lower drafts when the time arises.
My wife seriously declares to my son and I that her opinion is fact, just because it's her opinion. She's not kidding.

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