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09-12-2011, 12:27 AM
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Prospect ratings from past seasons?

Would any of you know the link(s) of HF prospect ratings from the past seasons? (5 past seasons,etc).
(ex: what was Subban's rating right after we drafted him?).


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Do you mean past HF's ratings?

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Do you mean past HF's ratings?
Yup, HF prospect ratings...maybe past 5 seasons.
I'll edit thread title...

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http://www.hockeysfuture.com/article...real_canadiens

You can find every summer and mid-season/spring top 20 from 2004-2011 here.

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http://www.hockeysfuture.com/article...real_canadiens

You can find every summer and mid-season/spring top 20 from 2004-2011 here.
Ah! Thank-you very much for this link. Great stuff!!

Thanks. Merci!!



p.s.: just checked Subban's ratings in 2008...8.0B, and...in 2009 it was 7.0B.
Lars Eller was 7,5B...pretty darn good!! (projected to be a solid two-way 2nd line center/forward).


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http://www.hockeysfuture.com/article..._draft_review/

They did a review on the selection prior to knowing much. The writer didn't really share much insight but it seemed even then the habs brass though PK was a high risk high reward pick with a good chance of making it.

One little error on the page I noticed: DOB: May 13, 2007... Subban is apparently 4 years old now

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always fun looking at these things
2005
Kostitsyn: 9C ouch!
Perezhogin 8.5C doh!
Higgins: 8B. Not even close
Chipchura: 7A. That's why A should never be given
Plekanec: 7.5 B. Right on!
Yann Danis: 8C. Wow. Ididn't remember how high he was seen. Woooooh in the next rankings in the same year he was an 8.0 A
Halak: 6C

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always fun looking at these things
2005
Kostitsyn: 9C ouch!
Perezhogin 8.5C doh!
Higgins: 8B. Not even close
Chipchura: 7A. That's why A should never be given
Plekanec: 7.5 B. Right on!
Yann Danis: 8C. Wow. Ididn't remember how high he was seen. Woooooh in the next rankings in the same year he was an 8.0 A
Halak: 6C
I find it quite puzzling how they change their rankings so abruptly, seems more reactionary to a recent good year than it is to actual scouting in my eyes.

Kostitsyn at 9.0C is actually quite fair imo. He was touted as being a future 80 point winger with size who doesn't shy from a hit and gives a big hit now and then. There aren't a lot of those in the league. Some thought he would be a 35-45-80 type guy. C makes sense because well, he didn't pan out to being one but was still a 40-45pt guy imo capable of 55-60pt on an offensive minded team.

I can understand the Halak 6C too because he was a 9th round pick nobody knew anything about. Reason he was so low is he didn't have a lot of scouting surrounding him and apparently prior to going pro was really poor, he struggled to make ends meet so I can imagine health and training weren't at their best. Then when he went pro his progression really took off because he had proper training, had proper health, worked really hard and used the natural talent he had all along. I remember seeing a video where Jaro explains how his family was quite poor and that he relied on others for rides to games and practices. Once he went pro that all changed and his progression skyrocketed. Nobody could have predicted this.

I still miss Halak even though I know we made the right choice.

Also Higgins at 8B is close, he turned out to be a 7A do the math. Even now he still has potential imo he just needs the right fit. I'm sure in the NHL games he's at least a 70.


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always fun looking at these things
2005
Kostitsyn: 9C ouch!
Perezhogin 8.5C doh!
Higgins: 8B. Not even close
Chipchura: 7A. That's why A should never be given
Plekanec: 7.5 B. Right on!
Yann Danis: 8C. Wow. Ididn't remember how high he was seen. Woooooh in the next rankings in the same year he was an 8.0 A
Halak: 6C
Kostitsyn's rating was right on. He has crazy skills, but never could really develop them. He's a solid 2nd line forward now, so he droped 2 ratings.

Perezhogin... we'll never know for sure what he could have done in the nhl, but a excellent 3rd liner/adequate 2nd liner, I think is exactly what he would be if he played here.

Chipchura is and always was a joke, yet he was adored here on HF... but his rating dropped significantly as the years past if I remember correctly.

Danis never really had a chance in our system to fully develop. Should have signed with another organization.

Halak underated, that's unheard of.

All in all, I think those ratings are pretty solid.

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2007

Top 20 at a Glance

1. Carey Price, G
2. Ryan McDonagh, D
3. Andrei Kostitsyn, RW
4. Kyle Chipchura, C
5. Max Pacioretty, C
6. Ben Maxwell, C
7. David Fischer, D
8. Maxim Lapierre, C
9. Sergei Kostitsyn, LW
10. Jaroslav Halak, G
11. Mikhail Grabovski, LW
12. Alexei Emelin, D
13. Ryan O'Byrne, D
14. P.K. Subban, D
15. Pavel Valentenko, D
16. Ryan White, C
17. Matt D'Agostini, C
18. Mathieu Carle, D
19. Ryan Russell, C
20. Mathieu Aubin, C

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Wow 14 NHLers who were all prospects for the same team at the same time? Is this even heard of? Yes some of the 14 are still unproven but to have 14 prospects in 2007 that are either close to NHL or in the NHL right now... that's pretty godly.

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