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09-09-2011, 08:33 PM
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To habs:
Oleksiak
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To Stars:
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Nash
3rd


With moving our 3rd center it frees that spot for Desharnais or to sign a veteran such as John Madden whose a terrific PK specialist with experience.

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09-09-2011, 08:41 PM
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We wont trade Eller simple as that.

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We wont trade Eller simple as that.
Are you serious? Not even for Jamie Oleksiak and Alex Chiasson?

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I wouldn't trade Oleksiak and Chiasson for Eller and Nash.

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Why would we trade the recently-drafted Oleksiak? Just curious.

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I know habs fans won't like this even if it has Oleksiak simply because people are in love with Eller here.

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Im a Habs fan and i personally think the deal is in favor of Mtl ... Oleksiak will be a very good dman for many years and chiasson ... Don't no much about him but is resume is good ... I would do that deal as a Habs fan

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09-09-2011, 09:30 PM
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We wont trade Eller simple as that.
Simple as that? Dallas is getting fleeced in that deal. Dallas isn't going to trade Oleksiak and Chiasson...simple as that.

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09-09-2011, 10:05 PM
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Dallas loses here. No thanks.

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Simple as that? Dallas is getting fleeced in that deal. Dallas isn't going to trade Oleksiak and Chiasson...simple as that.
You didn't get the point.

Eller is a lot more important and valuable to the Habs than Oleksiak and Chiasson would be.

It doesn't mean that the trade is in favor of Dallas. We are looking at the needs here. For the same reasons, I can see why Dallas wouldn't touch that trade.

It doesn't make sense for both teams.

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Absolutely not.

Fans from both sides know why, and it's been stated up there anyways.

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this proposal doesnt make any sense.

Montreal is in need of a 6,0 + center with top 6 skills ( exactly what Eller is )
and Dallas is in need of top 4 Dman prospect ( Oleksiak )

and in term of value and potential they are both pretty similar .. so imo each fanbase will say Hell no !

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Unrelated, but I think Chiasson will be a good NHLer, from what I've watched of him.

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6'0+ ... Chiasson is 6'4 winger with skill.

And I don't see why everyone likes eller he had a good last 18 games but rest wasn't good and had offseason shoulder surgery. He has good potential and think he is best suited for the western conference.


Oleksiak & Tinordi would be a violent pairing I'd love it

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6'0+ ... Chiasson is 6'4 winger with skill.

And I don't see why everyone likes eller he had a good last 18 games but rest wasn't good and had offseason shoulder surgery. He has good potential and think he is best suited for the western conference.


Oleksiak & Tinordi would be a violent pairing I'd love it
I understand what you thinking is like but remember we are in winning mode NOW. If Eller gets traded by Montreal in a package similor to this, it set them 3-5 years behind.

Dallas is rebuilding and from what I can see, they need a guy like Oleksiak in there system and will be with the bigs in 2-3 years time. Eller could very well be of interest for them since ther top center is Ben and Ribs, but don't expect impact players for him since they are a bit weak up front especially at center.

IMO, Chiasson could be had if you wanted him....think about Quailer, McMillan or Bournival for him. Has for Oleksiak, he would cost a pretty penny and we would only see an impact in 2-3 years from now.

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You didn't get the point.

Eller is a lot more important and valuable to the Habs than Oleksiak and Chiasson would be.

It doesn't mean that the trade is in favor of Dallas. We are looking at the needs here. For the same reasons, I can see why Dallas wouldn't touch that trade.

It doesn't make sense for both teams.
: , I think that two massive players (6'7", 6'4") is a trade that focuses on Montreal's needs than keeping a 6', 200 lbs player (when wet). Dallas gets fleeced, considering needs and all.

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I understand what you thinking is like but remember we are in winning mode NOW. If Eller gets traded by Montreal in a package similor to this, it set them 3-5 years behind.

Dallas is rebuilding and from what I can see, they need a guy like Oleksiak in there system and will be with the bigs in 2-3 years time. Eller could very well be of interest for them since ther top center is Ben and Ribs, but don't expect impact players for him since they are a bit weak up front especially at center.

IMO, Chiasson could be had if you wanted him....think about Quailer, McMillan or Bournival for him. Has for Oleksiak, he would cost a pretty penny and we would only see an impact in 2-3 years from now.
When you say that Montreal is in a winning now mode, what exactly do you mean? Do you honestly expect Eller to be a 60 point player this year? Oleksiak is probably one year away, so I'm not really sure what you're trying to get at.

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When you say that Montreal is in a winning now mode, what exactly do you mean? Do you honestly expect Eller to be a 60 point player this year? Oleksiak is probably one year away, so I'm not really sure what you're trying to get at.
Well our window in the next 3 years is good. Plekanek, Cammy, Gorges and Kostitsyn are in their prime. Gill, Gionta, Gomez, Markov and Spacek are over 30 and in some case close to retirement. This is a good core of vet to suroud our core of youth like Subban, Eller, DD, Price and Yemelin. So in other words, it`s a good mix of vet, prime players and youth.

Don`t get me wrong, I would love to add Oleksiak but Chiasson, he`s far from the NHL. The depth the Habs have, he would need to be real special in order to climb up the depth chart with guys like Palushaj, Avstin, Gallinger, Kristo and more on the RW.

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I dont see MTL doing that deal even if in the long run it would payoff. They're not in a situation to trade Eller, which I honnestly think will be their 2C by the end of the year. Gomez will be converted into a defensive Centerman by Martin if he plays the same way as he did las year...

Both teams say "NO"

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Dallas need a top 4 dman ... I would say that gorges or weber would work depending on what Dallas want ... Two trade proposal

Gorges + desharnais
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Oleksiak + chiasson
Or
Weber + desharnais
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Oleksiak + stefanovich

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To habs:
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Eller
Nash
3rd


With moving our 3rd center it frees that spot for Desharnais or to sign a veteran such as John Madden whose a terrific PK specialist with experience.
Yet trade for Dallas! Give it up! Dallas is not trading anyone unless the cap stays the same or goes down. This proposal will increase the cap. We will not have anoner for at least 2 months and maybe 3. Everyone just stop proposing trades! It will not happen anytine soon!

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09-10-2011, 11:19 AM
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Dallas need a top 4 dman ... I would say that gorges or weber would work depending on what Dallas want ... Two trade proposal

Gorges + desharnais
Vs
Oleksiak + chiasson
Or
Weber + desharnais
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Oleksiak + stefanovich
Yeah neither of those have any chance at happening.

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Dallas need a top 4 dman ... I would say that gorges or weber would work depending on what Dallas want ... Two trade proposal

Gorges + desharnais
Vs
Oleksiak + chiasson
Or
Weber + desharnais
Vs
Oleksiak + stefanovich
Ask yourself this question:

Would this trade fulfill the needs or wants of the other team involved. If the answer is no (which in this circumstance, is a resounding no), then why bother to post this.

What a ludicrous proposal.

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Dallas need a top 4 dman ... I would say that gorges or weber would work depending on what Dallas want ... Two trade proposal

Gorges + desharnais
Vs
Oleksiak + chiasson
Or
Weber + desharnais
Vs
Oleksiak + stefanovich
I would much rather do the original proposal. These are so bad that they're actually insulting.

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: , I think that two massive players (6'7", 6'4") is a trade that focuses on Montreal's needs than keeping a 6', 200 lbs player (when wet). Dallas gets fleeced, considering needs and all.
Mtl's D is usually above 6'0 so no, not really, mtl's forwards are small, C in particular.

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Yhis trade simply doesn't work for either side. Dallas on basis of needs & money and Montreal on basis of immediate needs.


All the players involved are very good players/prospects. Some feel Mtl gets hosed others feel Dallas gets hosed. Irrelevant as Dallas is not in a financial position to trade away youth ATM. Once they get the ownership problems (and minor ones at that) sorted out their management team (which is one of the best IMHO in the NHL) will get back to gunning for a title.

Mtl would trade Eller, If it lands that big bodies scoring centre they need now.


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