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09-11-2011, 11:56 AM
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I think Chris Osgood is the correct answer to this thread.

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09-11-2011, 11:59 AM
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Mike Knuble his entire career; Thornton and Murray in Boston, Forsberg and Gagner/ Richards and Carter in Philly, Ovechkin and Backstrom in Washington.

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09-11-2011, 12:13 PM
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Islanders have a bunch...Mouslon, Parenteau, and Grabner. To be honest, I'm sorta looking forward to see who Garth Snow can pull out of his hat next as he seems to have a great talent for it.

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Didn't seem like that bad of a thread until he gave those examples....

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Brian Gionta. Scoring 30 goals once earned him a nice 5 M paycheck.

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Holmström wears special protection like a backplate and extra of everything on his arms etc. Becuse of all the damage he takes. He is one hell of warrior in front of the net. No luck, just skill.

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Mike Knuble his entire career; Thornton and Murray in Boston, Forsberg and Gagner/ Richards and Carter in Philly, Ovechkin and Backstrom in Washington.
This - I never really liked Knuble playing with Thornton and Murray in Boston, I wanted to see Samsonov in that role. I didn't realize he played on those lines in Philadelphia and Washington but I'm not really surprised. He definitely has to be the luckiest NHL player. He's a good 2nd line veteran guy and I never really thought even in his prime that he deserved to be on the first line, but he keeps playing with the top players of a team. I don't get it really.

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09-11-2011, 01:42 PM
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Kunitz.

Undrafted. The Ducks pick him up and put him alongside Teemu Selanne after the lockout where he wins a cup. Then in the years following he gets to play with emerging stars Ryan Getzlaf and Corey Perry. Then he gets traded to the Pens where he's put on Crosby's wing and wins another cup.

I love Kunitz, he's a very hard working player but man is that guy lucky. Those are some pretty amazing linemates to have in such a relatively short NHL career.

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09-11-2011, 01:52 PM
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Lucic was lucky to get a 30 goal season.

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Didn't seem like that bad of a thread until he gave those examples....
This.

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09-11-2011, 05:32 PM
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Jeff Schultz. No one of comparable talent, abilities and lack of aggressiveness gets that kind of love from his coach and that kind of contract. Maybe Olesz.

Hell his defense is 50% being big and 50% being lucky.

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09-11-2011, 05:34 PM
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This - I never really liked Knuble playing with Thornton and Murray in Boston, I wanted to see Samsonov in that role. I didn't realize he played on those lines in Philadelphia and Washington but I'm not really surprised. He definitely has to be the luckiest NHL player. He's a good 2nd line veteran guy and I never really thought even in his prime that he deserved to be on the first line, but he keeps playing with the top players of a team. I don't get it really.
He might be the 2nd best player in the league at doing what Holmstrom does, plus he can cycle with anybody if called upon and plays surprisingly good defense for someone so slow. Better example would probably be someone thrown into positions to succeed over and over without really either earning them or succeeding in them. One thing Knuble doesn't do is hold his line back.

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09-11-2011, 05:37 PM
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This - I never really liked Knuble playing with Thornton and Murray in Boston, I wanted to see Samsonov in that role. I didn't realize he played on those lines in Philadelphia and Washington but I'm not really surprised. He definitely has to be the luckiest NHL player. He's a good 2nd line veteran guy and I never really thought even in his prime that he deserved to be on the first line, but he keeps playing with the top players of a team. I don't get it really.
He is definitely lucky to have had such solid linemates, but he is a perfect supporting player. He is great at what he does and would still be effective with lesser linemates IMO.

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09-11-2011, 05:45 PM
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He might be the 2nd best player in the league at doing what Holmstrom does, plus he can cycle with anybody if called upon and plays surprisingly good defense for someone so slow. Better example would probably be someone thrown into positions to succeed over and over without really either earning them or succeeding in them. One thing Knuble doesn't do is hold his line back.
Well no, there's a lot of guys that do a similar job and do it better and with more skill. Matt Moulson, Tomas Vanek, Ryan Smyth, Zach Parise.

He's great at it though that's for sure. You're just going a bit too far imo.

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09-11-2011, 06:01 PM
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Some guys:

Holmstrom - Standing infront of the net with help from Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Lidstrom doesnt sound like the hardest job in the world.

Rafalski - Great offence but "not so great" defence from this guy. Playing with Lidstrom and Neidermeyer must be a really tough assignment ...

Burrows - Basicly a plug that happened to find chemistry with he Sedins.
I'm always amazed at the lack of respect fans have for players, especially those who have made it against all odds. I'm not going to specify why I think you're wrong, cause I believe CloutierForVezina has perfectly summed it up already.

But you do realize you're talking about a 10th round draft pick (Holmstrom) and two players who went undrafted, and only played their first NHL games in their mid-20's (Rafalski and Burrows)?

And considering each have been highly successful in carving out an integral role in their respective teams, I'd say their talent and hard work/persistence trumps any amount of luck.

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09-11-2011, 06:24 PM
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Pretty much. I'd add Mike Vernon to this list as well.

And Brodeur.
Mike Brodeur isn't/wasn't that good.

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09-11-2011, 06:26 PM
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This year they were the team to beat. They were also hated, and made it to the finals. They get enough exposure that any hockey fan can comment on their players. I doubt anyone here didn't see a decent number of games.

Because you failed trying to call me out in another thread. Ok .
I play with plugs a little bit, and then let them go.

I'm a bit of a sadist.

PS: And by the way, I fail to see a source...

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Robbie Brown, case closed, or/.

Another example of Hextall being a sociopath.

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09-11-2011, 06:31 PM
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Playing with Gretzky and Lucky Luc can give a player amazing stats, see Nicholls' 70 goal - 150 point season.

Only Gretzky, Lemiuex, Yzerman, and Esposito have ever had a more productive season. Think about that.
1292 pts in 1127 games thats more than luck...The guy had some talent.

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09-11-2011, 06:48 PM
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1292 pts in 1127 games thats more than luck...The guy had some talent.
and he was a ppg player for 5 years before the big season with Gretzky (150 points)... and he stayed around a ppg the rest of his career actually... not that bad

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I've got a question for the people saying Luc Robitaille.

Would you still say he's the luckiest if he had happened to be named Francois?

Luck doesn't get you into the hall of fame.

Essentially, this thread has to boil down to two types of players. Kirk Maltby types who were decent enough, but greatly benefited from their surroundings, or one-season wonders.

The issue with one-season wonders is that a lot of them had reasons why they weren't able to continue on their pace. (injury, laziness, etc.)

So Chris Osgood it is.

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