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09-13-2011, 01:20 AM
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Nah... Value is pretty clearly Z>D>S. All good players but not equal on trade value.

Z= Superstar leader/center (Clear num 1 center) There is no center in the league that can match up against his line and out produce. (none) Some centers have beaten Detroit but usually by avoiding Zetterberg.
D= Young nearly superstar will likely be superstar (still a few kinks)
S= Stud defenseman (not superstar level)

Z has the best contract as he gets around the early retirement rule and has a 6M cap hit.
Zetterberg is not a superstar. People use that term so loosely, Crosby Malkin Ovechkin are superstars.
"Z" is on the outside looking in, sure he is a great two way forward. But Datsyuk is not even a superstar and he is better then zetterberg.

Doughty gets a lot of hype and it is well deserved. But seriously all of this Doughty drama needs to end. There is no way in hell Doughty gets traded for Suter and 4 1sts.

And lastly Suter is vastly under rated, no he is not as good as doughty. But Doughty is not worth Suter (potential top 5 d man this year) and 4 first round draft picks.

Top D are vastly growing:

Enstrom
Petriangelo
Weber
Letang
Doughty
Both Johnsons
Suter
Yandle
Seabrook
Keith
Green
Burns
Subban
Karlsson
Goligoski


Doughty is worth maybe one of these guys and 1 first. But some of them it is even, and other teams could make an excuse not to trade there star D. Doughty could easily be outshone any season in the future. He has a lot to prove to be the next Lidstrom, and IMO he will not be. The NHL has a lot of STARS not SUPERSTARS now. And no I am not saying all of these D are on Zetterbergs page, just that those teams could easily find a way for dealing for doughty not worth it.

Given the way this years draft is projecting, and so many top notch D are expected to come up I do not see why teams would trade one of there top D men and 2 firsts (which COULD develop into top pairing D men) for Doughty.

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09-13-2011, 11:14 AM
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That's true, but Suter and two firsts for a guy who will be making $7 late into his career is not a good idea for a club like Nashville who has a budget. Even an elite player like Z. And again, cap hit doesn't matter to Nashville. Real salary does. His acceptable cap hit turns into $7.75m worth of salary for us. It isn't that the team couldn't work with that. It's that if we are trading Suter and two firsts for up to $7.75m in salary I think there are better ideas than landing a single player and then helping Detroit replace Lidstrom.
I do agree with you, I was talking just player for player value - I keep forgetting the ridiculous 4 first rounders going to LAK.

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09-13-2011, 02:48 PM
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Not gonna trade our future captain for a one hit wonder prospect.

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Doughty
Legwand


Suter
Ericsson

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Flippula
Williams
Det 2nd
LA 2nd
thats worse than the original proposal.

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Not gonna trade our future captain for a one hit wonder prospect.

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09-13-2011, 11:00 PM
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well 2 years ago DD was bteter than Suter of 2 years ago and Suter of last year so.......
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Ok since I don't watch LA very often, what was Doughty's off season all about last year? Was it simply an offensive off season? Was he missing defensive assignments, too? What aspects of his game were "off"?

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Why is Detroit giving up draft picks in this deal? Zetterberg is the best player in the deal so Detroit should be getting first round picks not giving them up.

And no Doughty isnt better then Zetterberg or worth more then him at this point. Will he be one day...possibly even probably but not right now. Especially since Zetterberg is the best playoff performer in the league. Not to mention Zetterberg is signed to a lifetime deal for 6 million. Suter and Doughty both need to be resigned and will cost more then Zetterberg's 6 million per to do so.
Agreed about Zetterberg. And I'm willing to put money on the Wings taking a hard run at and eventually signing Suter next year as Lidstrom's replacement. There's no way Nashville will be able to afford Rinne, Weber and Suter.

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